I think that the main ingredient missing is atmosphere… there doesn’t seem to be that… buzz in the air or excitement… but that could be because I think Shift is going to rock my world!

i don’t know about lacking diversity.
gt5 is apparently going to ship with 90 odd tracks (most will be reversed, so more than likely 30-40 unique tracks) and both games will probably have too many cars to choose from. then you can customize your cars…

the problem i have with grid, dirt and formula one and the likes, is the arcade style. while thats not a bad thing, it gets tiresome after a while.

and we do need decent racing games that show off the prowess of both respective consoles’

Yea thanks Fox, here is another quote which shows us how close these games will be. I personally think GT5 will come out on top.

“Forza 3 looks a little less clinical that its predecessor – but still quite clinical, and despite Turn 10′s confidence that it has the best-looking racing game in the world on its hands, it can’t quite match GT5 Prologue’s near-photorealism, GRID’s bustling track drama or Need For Speed Shift’s thrilling in-car view.”
Link – http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/forza-motorsport-3-hands-on?page=2

Forza does indeed look better. But lets not forget GT5 is still being tested and coded so its not fair to compare these 2 games … yet

just my 2 cents

forz3 3 totaly sucks the images dat fox1 is showing r edited by some freaky xbot fan :cheerful: :happy:

Um, wow. Thanks Turn 10, making your game look better than what it is, the ACTUAL game has nowhere near that amount of smoke off the tires, it looks like bits of steam from a stove, and in the actual promo vid it shows a Ford GT smacking a wall and parts of it flyingeverywhere and the front dented in far but nope, just enhancing it to make it look better, please don’t do that Polophony, don’t be like Microsoft’s BS! (balogna sandwich )