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Call of Duty has “ruined FPS players”

CODruinedme

The first person shooter, love it or hate it, is probably the most prolific genre in video games; largely responsible for the explosive growth of videogaming as a mainstream, socially acceptable hobby. It started out on the PC, with games like Wolfenstein 3D, Doom and Quake, but found a home on consoles thanks to great games like Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on the N64, and later revolutionised by Halo on the first Xbox. Now though, when you say “FPS,” thoughts almost immediately turn to “Call of Duty,” a series of games that, says Tripwire Interactive’s John Gibson has “ruined FPS players.”


“I think that single-player shooters are getting better,” Gibson said to PC Gamer. “I think they’re finally coming out from under the shadow of the Hollywood movie, overblown “I’m on a rail” linear shooter.”

You know where this is going.

“I’m talking about Call of Duty-style shooters. In the late ‘90s, you had the original Deus Ex, which was an RPG-shooter. And those kind of games almost took an eight year hiatus. And I’m so excited to see them coming back with interesting gameplay.”

Gibson seems to hate the on-rails experience provided by games like Call of duty and its myriad clones – but embraces the return of a non-linear narrative and RPG elements.

“Like the Fallout games, even though their shooting mechanics could really use some improvement, just mixing a really cool story, but not a linear story, one that you create yourself. The melding of RPG elements and shooter elements has been great. I’ve seen this reflected in a lot of the reviews, it’s like, “Okay guys, we’re tired of this on-rails experience.”

Where he really takes umbrage is on the multiplayer side of things – where he believes Call of Duty has had a negative impact.

“On the flip side,” he affirms “I’m really discouraged by the current state of multiplayer shooters. I think that, and I hate to mention names, because it sounds like ‘I’m just jealous of their success,’ but I’m really, I feel like Call of Duty has almost ruined a generation of FPS players.”

But what does he mean by that? It seems COD has turned gamers in to whiny crybabies who want everything to feel the same, always.

“When I was developing Action Mode [for Red Orchestra 2], I got a group of people that I know that are pretty hardcore Call of Duty players. And my goal was to create something that was accessible enough for them to enjoy the game—not turn it into Call of Duty, but try to make something that I thought was casual enough but with the Red Orchestra gameplay style that they would enjoy. And we iterated on it a lot. And just listening to all the niggling, pedantic things that they would complain about, that made them not want to play the game, I just thought, “I give up. Call of Duty has ruined this whole generation of gamers.”

In short, people complained about everything because of one thing – “it doesn’t feel like Call of Duty,” which seems to be the metric that a majority of gamers use for their shooter comparisons.

Read the entire interview over at PCGamer – and get a little insight in to why everything does, and will continue to try and emulate Call of Duty’s successes, for better or worse.

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Author:Geoffrey Tim

I'm old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time - they were capable of being masterpieces. I'm here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • Tarisma

    I have played most of the cods, but I don’t think I will be playing Bf 4 or CODBLOPSSWE2014/4. Its just more of the same. copy paste routine with different shades of grey/brown used and a “new” shock moment to try be controversial and get the old people riled up about how bad games are. Its just blaaaah now. But they do have their place I would rather all the CoD fans be playing cod then coming over to more enjoyable multiplayer games bitching about how I am a noob and “fucking” my mom.

    Alll being said my favorite shooter of this generation was bulletstorm. Why bulletstorm you ask? Because it was FUN.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      Well said, fuck Cod and their following. All they do is silently downvote you, BUT, when you are online, they have bigger balls than the cast of Expendable 1&2.

      • Deon Steyn

        I’d like one of those 12 year kids to sit next to me and try and talk shit then.

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          Oh you and me both. You and me both.

      • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

        yet the only comment that wasnt about CoD being shite is the only one thats been downvoted.

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          And you can mark that in a calendar mate.

      • Admiral Chief Erwin

        XD

    • Deon Steyn

      I loved the combos you could rack up with every kill. Whip, kick and drill through they head.

  • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

    OK, I’m going to be dead honest here. I have never, ever, ever, ever finished a Call of Duty Game. Ever. I’ve only played one of them and got about 40% of the way and I knew I didn’t like it.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      Agreed. I have tried, but after my ears start bleeding and my brain is slapping me for being so mentally lazy, I turn more entertaining things on.

      • CaptainNemo42

        More entertaining things. Like this?

        • Tarisma

          Honey Boo Boo child or course.

          My guilty pleasure is C&I or discovery ID. Also Phinnes and Ferb.

          • Deon Steyn

            History channel when the actually show history.

          • Tarisma

            yes history like storage wars and American pickers.

            I know exactly what you are saying

          • indianprotoge

            I love Phineas and Ferb :)

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          Deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee… At least it’s not that little girl with the clown, that just freaked me out.

        • Admiral Chief Erwin

          Also known as F-OFF-ITS-BED-TIME

    • CaptainNemo42

      I’ve never ever ever EVER played a Call of Duty game.

      My dad has played more CoD due to him testing gaming rigs that he sometimes built for rich people And he sucks at it, but he has played more of it than me. But to this day I have not played one CoD.

      I did buy Battlefield 3 for the MP last year, and I actually enjoy it. So I’m not against it.

    • Jonah Cash

      I got a free Halo(don’t know which one) with my xbox 360(third one, red ring and all), and I played it for 15 minutes and took the disc out again, what a pain in the ass!! Have never even bought a CoD game, and don’t see myself ever buying one…. I’m all about the story, not the graphics or speed or rendering or whatever else people keep on clambering about!!

  • http://twitter.com/D4RKL1NG Martin du preez

    LOL of Duty

  • Sir Captain Rincethis

    YES, and YES. I couldn’t agree more. Now, shut up and make the next CoD BlOPSWIISPECIALWITHZOMBIES GAME OF THE YEAR… AGAIN. (Too soon?)

  • Pea_Peralta

    Dont people get tired of hating on CoD its not easy to replicate what they do cause its actually not easy. I love the CoD series both the singleplayer and multiplayer and the multiplayer shines in a way cause it incorporates both social and competitive play very well and that takes a lot of hard work to do.

    A lot of people will criticize and make fun of CoD being the same but the work that goes into providing a game that delivers on both a multiplayer and singleplayer level is a lot ask other developers they hve tried and failed and with the coming of the next gen consoles i foresee this year’s CoD breaking even more records and giving us fans lots of hours playing the multiplayer cause thats what they do best..:)

    • Deon Steyn

      I hate on CoD because it ruins the industry for FPS games in general. I hate the whole aspect of the single player. Every time a new FPS comes out people bitch and moan it’s not like CoD like they explained above. Their not people their sheeple.

      • Kingkappie

        Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          It created a vacuum where developers KNOW they can cut-and-past the same product with a few tweaks, and people will still buy it. It’s the same as Jersey Shore and other SHIT series that are out there.

        • Deon Steyn

          ctrl + c,ctrl v and people are lulled into a conveyer belt shooter. It’s like fast food and people shun all other FPS games because they don’t want a seven course meal.

          • Sir Captain Rincethis

            Seven course being fries, Big Mac, Coke (75cl), nuggets, ice cream, chicken wings and waffle, right? I win, a yes?

          • Deon Steyn

            Not as a complex meal as I envisioned but yes.

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Please tell me how CoD ruined the industry (now with $60 DLC pack)

          Like that!

          • Deon Steyn

            This!

          • Sir Captain Rincethis

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Motha of Mary winner of the week! For the SHIZZLE!

          • Twakkie

            Honourable and wise Banana, I think you summed up everything about COD’s greed in this single post. Well done wise Sir, well done!

          • Deon Steyn

            And now they introduce MICRO-TRANSACTIONS

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            Good grief dude. You are on a roll!

          • Johan du Preez

            Well said +1 from me

          • Pea_Peralta

            Why are map pack releases a horrible thing playing on similar maps can get boring plus you get the chance to pay a once off fee and all future DLC will be yours without any extra charge and there is this funny thing called choice were you can opt out of buying or even playing the game..

          • Deon Steyn

            Again you prove your ignorance. Older FPS games like UT and Quake had maps that people could submit and other people could download for free. That was until publishers decided they can make make more money of people.

          • Pea_Peralta

            You really like throwing around that ignorance word..Like you said the “older” games. I come from the future and things have changed especially in the gaming industry now you buy most of the stuff that should be free like map packs and extra missions and they call this downloadable content and oh my god here comes the insane part if you dont want to buy it, you dont but i cant tell you more cause you are stuck in the good old days and i would hate to bring you back to harsh reality :(

          • Deon Steyn

            Things has changed for the worse.

          • Pea_Peralta

            In regards with DLC and always-online DRM it is bad but in regards with the quality of games coming out, the bigger gaming conventions,the showcasing of more indie games, the growth of the gaming industry most of it which is attributed to the success of the CoD franchise and the impending release of next gen consoles its a great time for gaming.

          • mornelithe

            No, that’s the reality you choose to participate in. We prefer the reality where the best FPS’, like Arma and Stalker, still have map tools, server tools and the like. Enjoy those microtransactions =)

          • mornelithe

            Because they overcharge out the teeth for them? The best maps I’ve ever seen were period pieces created by the community of CoD 1 and 2 (Barbarosa for example). They stomped the shit out of most maps the devs created with the original game (though they’re awesome just because the attention to detail is astounding).

            Then Activision and the CoD crew figured out console owners are too stupid and ignorant to know that map tools had been an industry standard for years, likewise with server tools. And because of that ignorance, nobody knows exactly how easy it is for devs who have as much game resources at their fingertips, to make.

            CoD MW represents one of the terrible terrible trends of this generation, and as such, I won’t support it.

      • Pea_Peralta

        CoD didnt ruin anything you shouldnt blame developers for gamers not being able to appreciate other FPS games. Dont blame CoD for the laziness of some developers on trying to replicate the sucess of another franchise by doing the same thing with their own games,it is the lazy and easy way out motivated by greed..The multiplayer component of CoD has led to the growth of competitive play with more and more clans being formed.

        It really amuses me all the hate CoD gets if you dont like it dont play it but dont sit on a high horse and judge other gamers who actually enjoy playing those series of games cause its just childish and unnecessary. Most of the hate just borders on being irrational and uninformed.

        Some gamers are just not mindless sheep if developers are brave enough to think outside the box and provide an experience that CoD cant give, gamers will play and appreciate it, it wont yield billions of dollars the first time round but it will get the recognition it deserves in time.

        • Deon Steyn

          I don’t play it thanks, you call the hate irrational which tells me you don’t even read other peoples comments. The hate is justified on so many levels and so many people can’t be wrong.

          Developers did think outside the box. Bulletstorm was such a game but you probably never even tried it. It only sold a million copies which failed to turn a profit even though it scored high with reviewers because it failed to find an audience. So don’t prentend you know anything about games outside of Cod.

          You say I sit on my high horse I say you sit in a corner of ignorance with your eyes shut.

          • Pea_Peralta

            Lol you amuse me your assumption that i have not played other games besides CoD because i actually enjoy the series and think SOME of the hate is unjustified and yes it is unjustified.

            There is a difference between criticizing a game for its shortcomings then there is just hating on a game cause its just the thing to do. All im saying is dont blame a game for the ignorance of some gamers its just silly. The CoD franchise is successful for a reason you dont have to like it but at least acknowledge what it has accomplished.

          • Deon Steyn

            I acknowledge it has accomplished a lot. As much as Justin Bieber or Honey boo boo did.

            You think it does not have shortcomings?

            No freedom for one you walk from A to B to C and it smacks you like a disobedient child if you don’t move fast enough. The single player campaign is about 6 hours long for most of the games. In a BLOPS2 mission you use a wing suit just to get from one point to another. Why can’t you use it again as with Far Cry 3? The games are a copy of the previous versions. I bet that any one who has never played Cod before will not be able to tell the difference between them. It’s not even that realistic anymore it’s turning into an arcade style shooter.

            We all know the most reviewers like Cod and of course it’s only the people who visits this site that hates on Cod and no one else. But you would be wrong. http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/call-of-duty-black-ops-ii

          • Pea_Peralta

            You cannot compare CoD to FarCry 3 the only similarity between those games is they are both FPS and its stops there, the other is an open world adventure game while the other is a military shooter should i even continue poinitng out the glaring differences.

            The singleplayer for CoD is more like a B Grade action movie and thats the appeal and CoD has never claimed to be a realistic shooter and the beauty of games is there other games out there that will cater for those looking for realistic gameplay.

          • Deon Steyn

            You’re right. Why bother with the single player campaign at all then? Call it a tactical shooter then. Fc and Cod is different on the single player. One game requires brains and the other doesn’t.

          • Pea_Peralta

            Stop comparing Farcry 3 and CoD its like me comparing The Sims to Skyrim, the brain cant even comprehend such a comparison. Its nice meaningless fun you cant always play games that require you to think ALL the time, you need a break and if you dont good for you but some gamers do and thats why we enjoy CoD for the mindless fun fluff it is..

          • Deon Steyn

            Phew I agree with you at last.

          • Pea_Peralta

            Lol miracles do happen..

          • Sir Captain Rincethis

            I think that is what everyone here has been trying to get at, why is a BRAINLESS game like CoD so popular? Because the majority of people who turn it off then turn ON Jersey Shore, which is also brainless rubbish.

          • Pea_Peralta

            Such a bad assumption not even going to bother with a logical response to that..O.O

          • Deon Steyn

            Now that you drew it in crayons for them. But they still won’t see our point. Because they are the ones who buy DLC’s, spend cash on micro transactions and doesn’t care about DRM. We have found the culprits.

          • Sir Captain Rincethis

            Don’t mention DRM/Paid for DLCs, MICRO TRANSACTIONS! *Goes and downs meths, THE HORROR, THE HORROR!

          • Deon Steyn

            You just hit the nail on the head. There was this south park episode where all the kids went gaga for the “puppies with a close up camera” show. But only because they were high on cough syrup.

            Cod players must be high on meth,tik or glue or something!

          • Tbone187

            Dude, stop acting like you need a degree to play Far Cry….it’s a game for crying out aloud. If you wanna display intellectual superiority, you’re in the wrong forum….sigh!!! Everybody has their preferences…Don’t be fooled that yours is held in higher regard…

          • Deon Steyn

            Listen I have been busy the whole day with this debate especially with Pea. I can’t help it if you only pop up near days end and want to start now. Bother the other haters I’m too tired. Or wait till another Cod comes out and we’ll talk.

    • mornelithe

      Yeah, let me know when it starts delivering on the Single Player level again ;) Until that time, I’ll be playing the real FPS’ of this generation, Arma 2 and Stalker.

    • abue

      did you ever play CS at a clan -pro level? I think not, CS as a casual was heaps more fun than what COD is or will ever be. But who am I to say, i retired from FPS Games the moment cod games started coming out early 2000′s.

  • DaxterZA

    Who cares?? Yes COD is the best selling, but its not the only FPS game out there! There are many more great FPS games.

    If you dont like COD dont play it! I dont understand why people make themselves so upset over a game that they dont like….just go and play the games you enjoy and dont bother with the ones you dont like. Easy as that!

    The gaming community is getting very negative these days, its like no one plays games for the fun of it any more…

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      I think the point is that because of games like COD, the OTHER choices are drying up. Why would an independent company make Mirror’s Edge 2, and make no money, if they could replicated a FPS like CoD and make a billion in 15 days?

      • DaxterZA

        True that…

        One thing I will admit, and it pains me, is that COD does have a good SP….although it is on the short side…and I have a feeling that the COD developers was waiting for the next gen consoles to reveal their new engine for the game, but thats just my theory…

        At least there are still some decent developers out there that go out of the way with the new games they make, to bring us gamers a new experience, games like Far Cry and Borderlands, so all hope is not yet lost!

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          Agreed, I just fear that the call of money will stop even those :( I mean we were treated with FC and Borderlands, MOAR!

        • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

          never cared much for the singleplayer
          but the multiplayer stole 4 years of my life and im not even mad.

      • Tarisma

        I would sacrifice a bucket of puppies to EA to get mirrors Edge 2.

        Dear PETA it is an expression please don’t come find me and lock me up for thinking of animal cruelty

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          HAhaha, nice! *Hands 2nd bucket.

  • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

    Agreed … I mean … I grew up on the dos wolfenstein and doom and I loved fps games growing up … hell Half-Life had a huge impact on my life … but I’m tired of this point to point shooters man … FPS, the actual perspective gives rise to great immersion and I miss those games … nothing against COD, I love COD 4 but I don’t like what it gave rise to

  • Deon Steyn

    The single player offers no freedom. It takes your hand like a child in a toy stop and you have to walk through the isles and not touch anything unless you’re told you may or get a hiding.

    I’m not a donkey that needs to led. Give me Borderlands,Doom or Far Cry any day of the year thanks.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      Well said sir. CoD has been refined for the casual market, but then again, if you had 1000 attempts you too would be able to create a string, with anything on the end, that would fascinate a cat for hours (just not more than 6)…

  • The Bearded Dutchman

    If you count the people in Iceland, and you’ve never been anywhere else, you can find that 99.9 % of the worlds population (the world YOU live in) is white. Using those findings, with the fact that the Icecaps are melting, you can argue that white people are responsible for global warming. Just because you think it to be true doesn’t make it true does it? Most Battlefield players abhor COD style gameplay. Are they then the select few who weren’t ruined by COD? Bullshit. I think the guy is talking out of his ass.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

    20 comments
    19 of which are about how CoD is shite.
    well done guys.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      Yeah, huge surprise, what with the article being about the election of a new pope and all hey?

    • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      Significantly more comments than that now – but still mostly filled with COD hate.

      • Sir Captain Rincethis

        Hehe, ohhhh yeah, BUT Geoff, will you be the LOVE news today? Mmm. Gavin VS Geoff, FIGHT!

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    What’s even more interesting is that you can see who is a COD player and who’s not, purely by noting their play style and behaviour. While you do have terrible players in other FPS, 9/10 times those are COD gamers.

    When you run and gun, in a game that discourages it, and you still continue (even after repeatedly seeing your behind).. you…my young friend have been ruined by COD. The only solution is to set your COD disk alight, and go on a 10 year long gaming hiatus. Only through meditation and introspection will you once again be a real gamer.

    Banana Jim has spoken!

    • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

      nothing wrong with a battlefield player that can actually shoot strait.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      And I bow to thee oh Banana!

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        Indeed, young Guava, now let us meditate on gaming wisdom…. Repeat after me, “Ni No Kuni”

        • Tarisma

          When I get paid I can repeat those hallowed words

    • ElNicko

      all hail to the great and wise Banana

    • Deon Steyn

      They do terrible because COD is not a true FPS to start with.

    • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

      I was watching my sister’s bf play Aliens vs Predator on my PS a while back. Not only is he a COD player, but he’s a shitty player too. I had to keep telling him where to go because he couldn’t figure out how to use the radar…

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        LOL! Ok this is the funniest COD-gamer story ever. #highfive

    • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

      The Bananalama people! The Bananalama!

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      Have an upvote good sir!

    • CaptainNemo42

      YOUR THE BONANA KING!

    • Pea_Peralta

      I think thats quite a bad generalization they are a lot for great CoD players i know who do very well in other games besides CoD.

      CoD does cater for team based gameplay especially when playing objective based game modes as a team. Why blame a game if a player cant play the objective or adapt to a different gameplay, that seems irrational.

      • Deon Steyn

        Other games like Battlefield, Medal of Honour and Farmville?

        • Pea_Peralta

          OMG How did you know???

          • Deon Steyn
          • Pea_Peralta

            An article provided you with insight on what other ganers ..Hmm i have no argument against that the media is never wrong and its like they looked right into my soul, my God what a great article.. i shall go now and gift my fellow CoD players with some soil from my Farmville farm..good times

          • Deon Steyn

            ganers? Sarcasm suits you well.

          • Pea_Peralta

            I shall go edit that right away dont want people to blame CoD for my bad spelling..

          • mornelithe

            No, the fault there would rest with your parents and your educational system.

          • Deon Steyn

            So I saw this clip this morning about a 8bit game being made. And one of the comments, i’ll stick to cod thanks. WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8DWg1ZrVPA

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            I take comfort in the fact that they’re probably trolling, but sadly that sentiment is far too widespread. It might be that I’m an old school gamer, who have played and enjoyed various different genres, but I do get frustrated with the current crop of gamerinoes, who seem to get stuck on COD. It’s COD or bust.

            Shucks, there’s so much out there, so many really interesting and creative games that folks just ignore because of graphics. I for one would donate to this kickstarter if Kickstarter opened it up to us denizens from the third world…

    • Tbone187

      Quite the opposite actually,you can be rather good at most FSP’s but you’ll be quickly humbled by the pros on COD…Sound like sour grapes to me…The x factor in the dynamics/physics of movement and feel coupled together with the intensity is what sets COD apart from most and hence why it’s so popular…

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        I always felt that the “humbling in COD” was related not to the skill of the player but rather the speed of their connection. A sad drawback to peer-to-peer servers :P

        And apparently Treyarch agrees: http://n4g.com/news/1207802/treyarch-deranking-black-ops-2-players-for-having-high-speed-internet

      • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

        the shots and reflexes of the pros are ridiculous.
        was playing against takbok in his prime, sniper shootout to determine the match, and i sat there and i did not have the reflexes to get my cross hair on him in time, so much pressure and so much accuracy coming out from takbok.

        its not like I was bad, at the time i was part of 8or9 and in their 3rd team, but i just did not have it in me to compete with the top guys.

        and i agree on the dynamics and movements, the gameplay has always felt smooth and natural

    • FoxHoundR

      You’re an idiot

      • OVG

        lol you must be new to the site. Its Sir Jim Banana Lenoir you are talking to. The agony Aunt of LG. South African wit can be very hard to detect if you are American.

        Shits and giggles…need more coffee? :p

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          South African wit is always beer-flavoured. TGIF!

      • OVG

        lol you must be new to the site. Its Sir Jim Banana Lenoir you are talking to. The agony Aunt of LG. South African wit can be very hard to detect if you are American.

        Shits and giggles…need more coffee? :p

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        Hi my name is FoxhoundR and this is me raging at some random guy on the internet. :P Toodles!

        • OVG

          ROFL

        • Deon Steyn

          ermahgerd cod hax

        • FoxHoundR

          Dick

          • OVG

            lol FoxHoundR… You sound like a passionate gamer. We all started angry when all this commenting thing started 4 years ago. Shit I live in my own bubble (Aspergers) and its thanks to LG that I opened up a little more. I have had 3 accounts with Disqus thanks to using my work computer but after 6000 comments I learnt as I went.

            What I learnt the most was it does not matter what you say as long as its in a positive light. Its only a hobby and why gamers feel the need to bring in their carnivors into our escape mech is futile. JUST GAME ON…..

            My drunk Friday rants are normally popular but I cringe when I read them on Monday morning…. But the BEST word in the English Dictionary is TOLERANCE :)

            Change your AVATAR and name, then just have fun…

            As the older generation who have no understanding of our fave past time would say “Its only TV games” lol

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            Wow, OVG being all calm and stuff….

            Were you high when you wrote this?

          • OVG

            Shit, that one slipped the net ;) 13 Beers… I think.

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        Hi my name is FoxhoundR and this is me raging at some random guy on the internet. :P Toodles!

      • Deon Steyn

        *don’t

    • Chay

      Lol There r allot of them in bf3 and that sucks.. They can’t play sh!t

    • http://twitter.com/ClericZA Kobus Nel

      All hail to the wise Banana!

    • DvdMerwe

      Battlefield 3?

    • ddankm86

      You, my friend, could not be more right. When i got Halo 4, so many COD players were evident. As soon as BO2 came out, there were almost none of them.

      You are awesome, my potassium rich friend.

    • Admiral Chief Erwin

      Just came across this gem, Banana has spoken indeed. And spoken well!

  • http://twitter.com/mathuthe Mathias

    No… Players ruined themselves. An easy arcade shooter alternative was presented, and players played that nonstop. Even now, most of the people know it’s shit, but everyone keeps buying it. We should really stop blaming the games for the mistakes we make.

    It’d be easier for me to bash CoD here, but I’d also be a hypocrite.

    And when a fun shooter does come out (i,e., the aforementioned Bulletstorm) no one plays it. Is that CoD’s fault? Please.

    • Tarisma

      You are correct players do ruin themselves, what I was trying to say which may have been misinterpreted was that CoD is not for me, while CoD 4 was excellent as it changed things brought about changes to the FPS genre that was much needed, Same when WoW came out, and more recently the same as GW2 however when a game gets stale and copy paste tactics start becoming common place people start to resent that, because we end up with more of the same FPS FPS FPS, and new ip’s don’t get the attention they deserve and unfortunately fail. Its like Wildstar which comes out later this year looks like a pretty decent little MMO do I back it to succeed, no.

      Never has the line you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain been more appropriate. I hope I quoted it right.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      It’s a matter of supply and demand. The industry will get away with murder, if the GAMERS let it. As I mentioned earlier, look at this always online BS, if WE, as gamers, don’t do something, do you think some, kind-hearted developer will? Hell no.

      • http://twitter.com/mathuthe Mathias

        Yeah, but I know that, and you know that… But look at my lovely downvoters who come here only to read “CoD sucks it’s the game’s fault that everything sucks!” They don’t even know what to think, the poor creatures.

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          Hahaha! Indeed, well played sir, well played. It’s like the old box perched on a stick with string tied to trick ;)

  • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

    I might get chastised, but I actually enjoy COD games. I barely touch multiplayer – but the single player experiences are fun popcorn entertainment. Hardly gripping stuff, but certainly fun.

    • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

      sacré bleu!!!!

    • Tarisma

      It can be equated o watching a transformers movie. Awesome explosions and Pew Pew entertaining story line. Oscar winner no. Enjoyable yes.

    • Sir Captain Rincethis

      I like that ‘popcorn entertainment’. I agree. The issue is how it has become mainstream ‘Jersey Shore entertainment’ that I have issue with, and how it affects the industry as a whole.

      • Tarisma

        If you watch Jersey Shore I immediately think I am better than you.

        • Sir Captain Rincethis

          I don’t, but I know it exists, much like I know the clap does, but have never experienced it ;)

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          If you watch Jersey Shore, I immediately think the contents of your house belongs to me. Clearly, you need a guardian, and someone to look after your estate. (fixed it for you :P)

        • Johan du Preez

          I never heard of it and watched a trailer and god I want that 3 minutes of my life back.

      • Deon Steyn

        Honey boo boo affects my faith in humanity. I saw the trailer fr it and it’s gonna show on TLC but my word!

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      The problem is Call of Duty and Activision are essentially Honey Boo Boo and TLC (the TV channel). It starts of all harmless, and then before you know it, the Learning Channel ceases to be about learning, and only about braindead, contrived reality TV shows. It doesn’t just stop there, instead it infects other franchises, and before you know it, the once proud Bioware, copy and pastes a sequel to one of my favourite RPGs of the last 10 years…. leaving me, mumbling about “one caves”, “ugly ass Na’avi elves” and “stupid… empty city” to friends and family.

      Put simply.. Call of Duty is a cancer. It’s a cancer of mediocrity and greed. It deserves to DIE!

      • Sir Captain Rincethis

        Yes, yes, and yes. Wipes eye, you make me so proud. Least we also not forget how the Scifi channel made way for wonders like What not to wear…

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Syfy… you know, I remember when it was Scifi.. now.. it’s syfy.. home to… ghost hunter and other crap…. :( The noughties have really been pretty kak if you think about it.

          • Sir Captain Rincethis

            Sorry, my bad, I forgot they managed to shorten an abbreviation. Such is this Cod world FML.

      • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

        DON’T YOU BE HATEN ON HONEY BOO BOO! THEM REDNECKS MAKE ME FEEL LIKE I’M ON THE TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN!

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          HONNNEYYY BOOO BOOOO CHILD, Y’all! :D

          • Deon Steyn

            I found a picture of the two together

          • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

            You’ve actually ruined the ninja turtles for me. Well done.

          • Deon Steyn

            Hehe, my bad sorry.

          • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

            A dollah make me hollah!

      • Weanerdog

        Busy playing DA:O again. It makes me happy.

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          You know, I need to do that as well. The last time, I deleted my save files and created a new character and for a month or so.. I had this massive smile on my face. :D Love that game. It’s in my keep-forever box.

    • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.holliday.39 Matthew Holliday

      was the opposite for me

      singleplayer hasnt grabbed me since CoD2

      the multiplayer however
      40 000 cod4 kills (estimate)
      17 000 MW2 kills
      400 MW3 kills

      sure the later games are alot less interesting, but the older iterations were fantastic.
      cod4 made competative gaming awesome
      mw2 made casual gaming easy.

      • Tarisma

        cod4 made competitive gaming awesome. I do agree there

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          This is true. I used to play a bit of Counterstrike back in the day, but nothing competitively and I loved that COD4 was different. It really was a breath of fresh air. 6- 7 years later… how things have changed :(

      • Tbone187

        Survival on MW3 is simply an awesome shooter experience…

      • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

        Cool; I just – as I’ve stated before – never really like multiplayer much.

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        I liked COD4, I even liked the much-hated COD3, but gamer fatigue set in and I think I skipped the games till COD Blops1 (which I actually enjoyed, both in single player and multiplayer).

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      There is no problem with popcorn entertainment games such as COD.

      I myself do enjoy the mindless run and gun. The problem is the entire industry wants to emulate this and unfortunately one can only have so many popcorn games before you give up on gaming completely.

  • Major Commodore 64 Darryn B

    Don’t worry COD, I’ll always love you… inappropriately.

  • Deon Steyn

    Ben “Yahtzee” Croshaw said it best regarding the FPS games. Doom3, Bulletstorm and Resistance are SHOOTERS. MOW,COD and Battlefield are not shooters. Watch it and be educated. DEAL with it.

    http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/6492-Medal-of-Honor-Warfighter-Doom-3-BFG-Edition

  • Deon Steyn

    Call of Duty has not ruined FPS players because true FPS players hardly ever touch CoD. They wait patiently for the next TimeSplitters,Doom 4 or Half life 3.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Timesplitters is one of those titles that as the time passes, it becomes ever more underrated. If they announce Timesplitters 3 for PS4, I might just lose my mind.

      • Deon Steyn

        Last I heard they are still fighting to make one whilst DROLL OF DUTY gets all the money it needs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TimeSplitters_4

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Man, that’s such a pity. I loved Timesplitters. But maybe it’s a good thing, that it skipped this gen, After all, the powers-that-be would have tried to COD-ify it for the masses, and the sad part is, that uniqueness of Timesplitters is exactly what we need now, especially with this gen winding down..

          • mornelithe

            Well, there’s a pretty simple reason why Timesplitters never came out this gen…when Haze bombed, Free Radical folded and got purchased by Crytek. It’s unfortunate, but this generation hasn’t been kind to developers.

    • Uberutang

      True FPS gamers play Arma.

      • Deon Steyn

        PC always get’s the best stuff :(

      • Twakkie

        True true!

      • http://twitter.com/Potty391 Charl Potgieter

        I wholeheartedly agree. The Arma series (3 in particular) is awesome.

      • mornelithe

        Absolutely +1 and don’t forget Stalker!

        • Twakkie

          Stalker = my Childhood!

      • Dadalepanda

        And what about Counter Strike, Quake and others ?

        • Uberutang

          They were awesome back in the day, but are they not the starting point that eventually gave us COD?

          For a shooter to really keep my interest it needs to have asymmetric play in MP and SP.
          I do not want my hand held, or funneled through a corridor. I want options and randomness.

          I want weapons to behave uniquely and each bullet to be subjected to the same physics as the real universe.

          I think the best non sim shooters are Bioshock / Far Cry (excluding all forms of MP here) and Metro 2032. These games have that classic ‘Half life’ feel with out being direct clones.

          The best ‘classic’ fps of the last few years is probably Resistance 3 imho. It had the ‘old school’ feel but it was not a America vs Brown people corridor shooter :P

  • http://twitter.com/mathuthe Mathias

    Also, I don’t mean to be rude, but the only one to fault that Red Orchestra 2 wasn’t a really succesful realistic shooter is the dev team for releasing the game in such a poor state. Sure, they fixed it A WHOLE YEAR LATER, and that’s too late for most gamers.

    But, sure, it’s easier to blame Call of Duty. I don’t like CoD, even though I did consider CoD 4 to be excellent, and MW2 and Blops 2 to be decent, I only rent those to try them out.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=586005425 Ben Louw

    Salvation and rehabilitation is at hand.
    Arma.co.za…time to man-up.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Arma 3 has an alpha release on Steam. Nut up lads! I think I need to upgrade my computer for that puppy.

      • Twakkie

        Ja and if you buy the Alpha, the retail game is automatically added to your steam account when it is released. Flippen awesome deal.
        Edit: Also the Alpha costs half the price of the full game when it is released. Thus you are buying the game at half the cost.

    • Uberutang

      I have seen cod players in Arma…for all of 5 seconds before their adhd perma deaths them.

  • TehBrad

    It’s like when a new MMO comes out…

    “But it’s now WoW.”

    “It doesn’t feel like WoW.”

  • Mpc798

    THIS IS FINE NO THEY DIDNT

  • Tbone187

    Well here’s an article to please the hordes of COD haters here on this forum…Truth behind it tho, those who usually aren’t any good at COD , hate COD. They don’t last long enough between spawns to appreciate the intensity…

    Oh! let’s take a random stroll to some irrelevant part of the map to cut up some innocent animal and use it’s skin to make a purse for myself…Wow!!, now that’s satisfying indeed. I feel like so much more of an intellectual because the game of my choice involves a fraction more thought…pfffft!!

    Each game type has it’s pros and cons…Linear – get in, have a blast and get out….Sandbox – think, plot, execute, save and move on….. Enjoy each for what they offer and stop blaming a franchise for the lack of prosperity in your projects…it’s pathetic.

    • Pea_Peralta

      Thank you so much for this!!!!

    • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      Shock! Horror! People like different things! :)

    • mornelithe

      Yeah, anyone who’s good at Arma 2, or Stalker, would tear it UP in CoD. Because those games actually you know…require that thing we call skill to play. I’ll never play another CoD game, and it’s because of what happened between CoD 2 and CoD 3. I couldn’t care less what the game looks like, how popular it is, how awesome the story is. I will never, give my money to those fucks again. On principle, I won’t be satisfied until every person involved in the CoD 2 to 3 debacle is out of a job.

      • Tbone187

        Dude, you seems to be rather bitter on a personal level with the developers and I’m not here to fuel your rage but to express my opinion. You the only one missing out in the end. Why not enjoy all 3 titles?? Even if it may be for varying reasons…

        • mornelithe

          Because, principle trumps the simple desire for entertainment. Besides, CoD simply isn’t the best show in town anymore, plenty of other titles worthy of my time and hard earned mullah.

          • Tbone187

            Well, there you go then. Spend u’r money where you feel necessary but don’t degrade or underestimate others abilities based on their preferences…

            This notion of players of certain titles being superior overall gamers is bull imo…It’s actually laughable that one would think as such…

          • mornelithe

            Um, you started it by insinuating that everyone who hates CoD, isn’t good at it. Generalizations tend to come back to haunt people.

          • Tbone187

            What does that statement have to do with your ridiculous analogy?…my use of the word ”usually” caters for people who don’t fall under that description…You seem to have a chip on your shoulder (as with most COD haters) that you’re a better gamer because you play particular alternatives…That’s just narcissistic…in any event, haunting is hardly a description fit for your response…

          • mornelithe

            What ridiculous analogy are you referring to?

            How could you guess I had a chip on my shoulder over CoD? Does it show? Maybe educate yourself on the CoD 2 to CoD 3 issue, and you’d understand my anger at the franchise.

            Actually haunting is an appropriate description as the saying infers repeatedly having to address the issue. Ergo, me responding every time you respond.

            Never said I was a better gamer, I said Stalker and Arma require more skill. Prove me wrong. Go ahead, beat both Stalker and Arma on the hardest difficulty and get back to me on it. MP is much more challenging as well, actual realistic physics will do that.

          • Tbone187

            Mate, I don’t care about the COD 2/3 issue you refer to. If the game is good, I’ll play it. period…Company issues and behind the scenes dodgy deals or whatever, isn’t of interest to me…it’s like a dodgy documentary on music artists that show you stuff that you really shouldn’t bother yourself with. Enjoy the ‘music’…

            Having said that , I will brush up my knowledge on this issue to have an understanding of where you coming from…I’m familiar with Arma but not Stalker which will certainly get looked into…I’m always keen on new ventures in gaming…

  • jordan

    Wht is fsp

  • Boris Becker

    If I want a good story I will play a role play , but going to battle I want action not a lame story

    • mornelithe

      That’s too bad, because while CoD has action, it’s nothing but a lame story.

  • hansenjw

    Really good point, upvoted!!

  • Ch!cken M@N

    I have seen multiple threads just like this specially before the launch of a new COD or another FPS game that everyone calls the COD series allot of bad things(toooo many to name not enough internet…) BUT then everyone buys the next one and makes it the best selling game of all time again. WTF can I call hypocrisy here? sigh :/

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      The funniest for me was this group on Steam that called for a boycott of Modern Warfare 2, and lo and behold, when the game was released a screen-capture of the group showed everyone playing CODMW2.

    • mornelithe

      Nah, you’re forgetting that there are hundreds of millions of gamer’s now, and CoD doesn’t sell in the hundreds of millions. There are plenty of people who criticize CoD, and don’t buy it.

  • andy

    I respectfully disagree with your statment good sir as i am a very good cod player i agree that in the normal core mode most people just spray and pray but in hardcore mode you should aim because you have no ridicule to use to aim so u have to look down the sights. But you are entitled to your own opinion

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Sir, a good cod player is an oxymoron steeped in paradox. Such a creature can’t possibly exist. :P

  • Bradley Freeman

    This is an awful generalization. COD is a fore father of the FPS genre and is a great series in gaming.
    Its not the game that has ruined the genre. The mindless, imbecilic cretins that have taken their COD “run and gun” playing styles to other games where such a playing style isn’t accepted are the ones to blame.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      “COD is a fore father (sic) of the FPS genre and is a great series in gaming.”

      You sir win the internet, that is some quality trolling. If you were born after the 90s, this would be true, but sadly time existed before many of our younger gamers were born, and in fact, the forefather to FPS games is generally considered to be Wolfenstein 3D. It came out way back in 1992, and essentially spawned a genre. Thereafter you had a slew of FPS games from Doom, Marathon, Quake, Halflife.. etc. etc.

  • drobins1

    I like battlefield better

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Yeah, but the silly tinpot dictators with their private servers suck ass.

      “Y;ALL DUNT USE SHOTGUN, IGLA, STINGER, M16, C4, LANDMINES OR ROGUE CLASS. NON-EU GAMERS WILL BE BANNED!” <– a typical server admin on Battlefield 3

  • Haris

    Agreed. It needs to become more balanced like Halo.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      But not too much like Halo, because Halo is the vanilla ice cream of FPS games.

      • Haris

        Yea i wish it call of duty graphics but halo game play

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          I get what you’re saying, I don’t really play COD any more, but I always liked the way they managed to have this crisp engine (granted it’s old now) but the character animation and gun animation were top-notch. I would probably have been less negative towards COD had they not gone the annual release route. It’s a bit like the AssCreed effect, an enjoyable and interesting franchise ruined by extreme overexposure and a lack of focus (well… the money is the focus… but you know what I mean).

        • Haris

          I agree. Games aren’t what they used to be. However, i am looking forward to the next generation consoles.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Most definitely, I think the day I stop being enthralled by gaming is probably the day I day. Best hobby ever! :P

  • Gabriel

    COD is a bad game they only want money and the players aren’t friendly

  • gunslinger07

    In my opinion COD jusy ruined FPS in general for me. Every FPS that comes out now tries to be a COD clone for all the wrong reasons. COD is praised for being a noob friendly game that tries to shroud it by sprinkling unlocks all over the place. Make a game that requires a learning curve is all I’m asking.

  • zroth

    COD just put a facelift on CounterStrike. How is that ruining FPS? Standardization and consolidation of wealth/power are ruining variety all-up. This is not a gaming problem. Babies and old ladies where the same jean pattern these days.

  • Chris.Kozub

    In my opinion I don’t think COD has ruined FPS players, it simply made them used to a certain type of gaming envirnoment. They kill other players to recieve points and unlocks which gives them the advantage later on in the game. This sort of reward system is what drives people to love COD, as well as makes them extremely competitive. As a closer I think it all matters on the persons first encounter with FPS shooters. For example I’m a HUGE Halo fan, but I still love playing COD. If people simply play only one game and one game only, its obvious that they’re going to compare every other game they play to that game.

  • OVG

    After BLACK on the PS2 I can never move forward. Then Modern Warfare 2 came out in 2007. Its in my Top Ten of all time. World at War almost made it. BUT I CAN SMELL MILK WHEN I CAN.

    • OVG

      COD FCUKING SUCKS. After 30 years of gaming, nothing is worse than watching shit loose all sorts of thought. SURE the dude Zimerman who did the music for BATMAN and COD MW 2 FUCKING rocks but its sad to see the same engine like the WWE games milked over and over agian thanks to making a sure buck.

      WE VOTE WITH OUR WALLETS and if 20 million gamers want to buy into it…….

      • OVG

        THEN ITS US GAMERS WHO SUCK. NOT THE DEVELOPERS…God bless their cotton socks for trying to inovate at the latest suits pitch.

  • MrBanaynaykinz

    I definately prefer nonlinear stories because you make it your own, not two peoples gaming experience is alike.

  • RATBURL

    BF3 Is the greatest game ever! COD was cool but when I started playing battlefield it was over.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Well… I wouldn’t go that far. :P But give the Arma series a go, your mind will be blown, my young gaming grasshopper.

  • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

    Who knows about FPS knows about COD… If you don’t know about it.. You are a noob .. Simple
    COD mw revolutionized FPS … And then all the game companies tried to chase them

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      I wouldn’t say revolutionise, but they’ve certainly squeezed first person shooters down a narrow corridor, and into some of the worst single player stories, I’ve ever seen in my almost three decades of gaming. And I mean the first Mario game didn’t even have a story, but it was definitely less contrived than the average COD yarn.

      • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

        You wouldn’t say that if you could understand the storyline ..
        But everyone thinks with own set of mind…

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          It’s not rocket science, nor is the storyline that deep. Spec Ops: The Line managed to craft an amazing story using Joseph Conrad’s Heart of Darkness as a backdrop, whereas COD plays it safe with its rehashing of early 80s but dismally watered down Tom Clancy.

          • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

            I got the story very well .. I don’t know why feel it is sick…

    • mornelithe

      I think you mistake revolutionize with make accessible to and market, it’s pretty obvious that it’s popularity exploded, right around the time it came out exclusively to console behind an enormous marketing campaign. Clearly the MP is addictive because so many are into it, but revolutionize? What new thing exactly, did they bring to the table? They sacrificed so much substance for it, it better be something pretty big.

      • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

        Well if you can see that ,
        The war going now adays was first captured by COD4 .. Before that every gaming company made FPS games with the idea of world war 1 and 2 … This advanced weapon system and streaks system was brought by them .. And much much more

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          But… GRAW predates COD4. COD 4 didn’t start a new genre (the modern shooter – first and third), because there were titles (most notably the Ghost Recon games) around that already explored war in the now I personally enjoyed COD4, but you’re painting a picture of COD that’s horribly out of sync with what really happened in the last few years.

          • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

            As you can see m talking about THE gaming companies… Not a gaming company.. Like MOHA series CS… They were not even bothering to go to the MODERN SHOOTING… But when MW came they thought to move on .. And Modern war fighter is the result of that competition as well as BF

        • mornelithe

          LoL, not even remotely close. First of all, none of the weapons adhered to anything we’d consider a realistic physics engine, ergo, no bullet drop, and the weapon kick was microscopic in comparison to real life. There was no bullet impact physics, and I’m pretty sure current soldiers can’t hide behinds walls to refill health.

          If you’re truly interested in how advanced weapons systems work, behave, and function in current times. CoD is not your answer. Arma (predates CoD4), is your answer (Or Stalker (predates CoD4), if you don’t mind adding in a bit of sci-fi/fantasy, their physics engines are beyond what most people are familiar with, but far, far closer to reality than CoD will likely ever be). But, that’s also not what CoD is, or attempts to be. If that were truly the case, the developers would be even more of a laughing stock. Plus, the folks who like CoD, aren’t really looking for that. And people need to realize that as well.

          • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

            Well i can see bullet drop very well … Recoils are at very nice level , not much , not less.. If they had added recoil more than their current level , then it would ve been a mess.. I respect your opinion but CoD is at some other level…
            And yeah my point was not , that CoD have best Weapon physics and no other game have any WPhysics … My point was that CoD started upgrading their graphic engines and did this…

  • puff3rf15h

    That’s like saying Doom ruined shooters because all of a sudden everyone wanted to make a similar game. It’s called innovation, and there will always be countless copycats. If cod really had ruined fps, then people would have forsaken it for something else. Which they eventually will do when something supercedes it anyway.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Back in the early 2000s it was Halo that ruined shooters, but in that case, Halo did bring a seachange. First-person shooters stopped being about navigating a labyrinth (with key cards, switches) and instead shifted to smaller areas. Sadly, that’s continued to our modern shooters, to the point where COD and even Battlefield 3 are essentially these follow-your-dumb-AI-Squad down increasingly narrow corridors – from one cutscene to the next.

  • enlightenedgoebel

    True

  • paden

    Banana jim, it seems like you’re blaming COD for sucky players, while the real problem is the player himself

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      This is true, not every gamer is equal, however we’re all susceptible to bad influence, and in the case of COD, you’re encouraged to play in a very specific way. It does take a while to break those old (COD) habits. I remember shifting from Bad Company 2 to Black Ops 1 and back to Bad Company 2 (a few years back), and having to unlearn what’s generally considered the norm in a typical COD game.

      One example is quick scoping while run and gunning. It’s something that’s become almost indicative of the COD experience. Now sure, there’s a lot of disagreement even amongst veteran COD gamers, but the point is, you actually do see folks in other games trying to quick scope…

      • paden

        While i see your pov, i think it is incorrect to say that COD is all “run and gun” for instance the sniping tactic, while quickscoping is customary, to those less experianced the better method would be camping along the edges of the map, both possibly turning out the same way, so yes you’re persuded to quickscope and run and gun, but it is not the only way, and it’s profiling when you say that’s all there is

    • http://otakumode.com/Qandeel ?Qandeel ( Punisher )?

      Yea

  • DvdMerwe

    But what is best then? I mean in terms of online fps?

  • Cubellius

    Heh at least I don’t see COD noobs in Umreal Tournament, none of them dare play a real FPS.

  • Ray

    Counter strike is where its always been

  • dakingeman

    I believe that the reason most cod players are very young children or very obnoxious people is because it is so accessible to them and is catered towards them by Activision. It is not directly the game but the way it is presented.

  • RobbieDean

    Blackops 2 sucks, MW3 is better

  • kavnj

    CoD is really a hit or miss for people. Of course it has been catering to the younger audience with each new release but that doesn’t mean it ruined FPS players. CoD outsells itself every year when it is released and the community is good and bad. If you don’t like it, no need to bash it. If you like it, cool, you’re one out of the millions who like it.

  • arijos0222

    I play COD, Halo, Medal of Honor, Battlefield etc. And I’m actually really good at all of them.

    However yes a lot of people who play cod generally suck at every other game.

    Also i can’t buy a game for their single player. Paying 60 dollars for something i will finish so quickly doesn’t make sense. At least multiplayer has a fast pace action to it that involves thinking too.

  • arijos0222

    And i also like collaborating with my clan in search and destroy.

    If halo or battlefield had search and destroy, that would be amazing. I like to think and not just mindlessly go into war like halo (battlefield involves thinking too, which is great). In CoD, search and destroy is the only game mode i play

  • abue

    why was there no mention of Counter-Strike in this? the fuck, that’s probably the biggest fps game ever played which made the genre explode (at least in the multiplayer field)… The fact that CS 1.6 is still played after over 13 years i think says alot…

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