Fallout 4 is officially coming, and yesterday’s trailer has sent the internet into a tumult. Fans are tripping over themselves in glee, while deterrents are tripping over their bottom lips because the graphics aren’t good enough, and that Bethesda’s models look waxy and un-lifelike just as they have in every other Bethesda Software game ever made. Fallout 4 is one of the worst kept secrets in videogaming, with rumours of the game’s setting popping up years ago. One old rumour though, which seems to be align quite a bit with what we now know of the game, is a little disturbing, especially given today’s gaming climate.
The thing with Bethesda’s RPGs, whether you love and live them or not, is that they’ve allowed you to play as your hero – to carve out an identity of your own. It’s always been about choice. That may not be the case with Fallout 4. According to that old rumour, the game gives you a premade character, who happens to be male.
“In Fallout 4, mixing things up, we are making the game more ‘Story Based’ and the player character will finally talk, and narrate his storyline. At the beginning of the game, you create your character (You can only be a male in the main story),” says the old leaker, claiming to be a disgruntled former employee , via Destructoid. The same source says you can change gender once you’ve finished the game. Odd.
If this is true, it would certainly be an unwelcome move, given the current climate and the fact that Fallout has always given you options. I’d be pretty down, as I tend to play games of this sort as a fiery, chaotic neutral red-headed woman. I’d be upset, though I’d even buy the whole “it’s all about the narrative,” angle if this wasn’t a world that already includes Mass Effect, a great big sprawling RPG that featured full voice and story for both sexes.
Hopefully, given the drive for more diversity in gaming this is just a rumour, or that if it was once true, Bethesda’s seen fit to change that.
According to DToid, here’s the rest of the pertinent info gleaned from the months-old leak:
- The map of Fallout 4 is about three times the size of Skyrim
- Set in the year 2287, exactly 10 years after Fallout 3
- Takes place in Boston
- Xbox 360 and PS3 version will release later and run on the Skyrim engine (the teaser website had CSS mentions of both consoles)
- You can import your Fallout 3 data that could have an impact on the story depending on your previous choices
- PC version includes a “Classic Mode” that will feature a bird’s-eye view like the original titles
- You can only play as a male in the main story, but can change gender after completing the story
- PC / PS4 / Xbox One release date: October 2015
- PS3 / Xbox 360 release date: December 2015
- Will have five DLCs released over the next year
- An expansion will be revealed at E3 next year, and released in October
Here’s that trailer again, because why the hell not.
Last Updated: June 4, 2015
Mistake Not...
June 4, 2015 at 11:01
Damn, I wanted to make Furiosa.
Cyberats
June 5, 2015 at 02:15
Can’t say enough bad things about MadMax remake movie. That Furiosa was the new heroine for the set was unexpected. But yeah, a game that gives less choices will be less liked, you get what you plan for.
ReaperOfSquirrels
June 4, 2015 at 11:04
I wanna have the option to be A-Sexual in a game… is that too much to ask?
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:08
Or a transvestite. Come on now, male and female clothes that can be worn by any gender.
Otherwise it’s just Failout.
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/hSbE0.gif
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
XD
You’ve had that experience I take it? XD XD XD
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:12
I um wait what?
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:14
I saw nothing! *whistles* O_o
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:39
Lies you watched!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
He likes to watch…. O.O
ReaperOfSquirrels
June 4, 2015 at 11:28
Choose character gender:
Male
Female
Both
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bth.gif
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:31
What, at the same time? 0-O
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:32
It’s not our place to judge man. Just get the camera ready…
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:32
I have no issue of being both, but playing two people at the same time is JUST TOO DAMN CRAZY!
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:34
In that case, never play Divinity: Original Sin.
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 11:34
Agreed, only one active personality at a time please
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
For some, having multiple is default setting @disqus_DoEH3TsffU:disqus hehehe
ReaperOfSquirrels
June 4, 2015 at 11:34
It’s called a hermaphrodite.
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:36
http://i.imgur.com/XQLjrpv.gif
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:19
He is a woman
Cyberats
June 5, 2015 at 02:18
Third choice “both” is called Hermaphrodite.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:34
I want to be the dog in the reveal trailer. Dog job done.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:40
This makes me think of something from a certain game (leaving it there in case some have not played it yet). And I so badly want to say something about itttt!
HvR
June 4, 2015 at 15:49
Or zoophile …….
Elisaa
June 5, 2015 at 00:43
???????????????? I Make Money At H0me.,….,
??? https://www.GETWORKSOON.COM
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RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
I’m with you! #SP4EVA
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:15
I’d rather be A+ Sexual, if you know what I mean!
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:25
Always thought your BMI was more of a DD+ *RUNS
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:33
Yes, well… YOUR FACE! 🙁
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
Tehehehe
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:25
But F Sexual sounds so much better
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
Any sex sounds better.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
Depends what sounds you make ;P
Cyberats
June 5, 2015 at 02:15
Be a robot ?
Cyberats
June 9, 2015 at 03:15
Play Mario Brothers, RPG games have love stories in them, grow up or change games.
Aimee Frost
November 15, 2015 at 23:25
Being asexual is sexual orientation.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 11:04
“about three times the size of Skyrim”
That is it, they better have a car/bike/hoverboard
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:08
Unicorn!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:24
Don’t be ridiculous. Unicorns are trademarked by Blizzard. They own all the Unicorns. 😛
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:34
Unipig!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
YES!
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:19
^This
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:24
I want a mutated Elephant to ride. Thanks.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:25
Or just really comfortable Adidas
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 11:40
Actually Asics is better, but that’s my opinion.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:41
Haha! Alright then. I honestly only have one pair of “athletic” shoes and they’re Adidas and they’re really really old. For everything else, there’s sneakers (not the brand 😉
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:42
*takkies. None of that “sneakers” nonsense.
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
‘n Lekker paar tekke!
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:47
Haha. True dat. Tekkies!
But I’m one of those who buys a few pairs of cheap fake “all stars” and wear then until they fall apart. I’m not throwing over R300 into shoes made from canvas and vulcanized rubber if it lasts me just as long.
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 11:49
Unless you run in it. Then I would suggest spending R600+ otherwise your medical bill will be quite steep.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:02
Yes, agreed.
But running is hard 😉
Funnily though. When I went for my checkup after my head injury the other day the doc asked me if I cycle or run.
I don’t do either, but apparently my heart rate says otherwise 😀
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:03
That explains a hell of a lot.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:05
The head injury?
But that was only a week ago. What accounts for everything before then?
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:10
It must have been a massive hit to get through those brows, thereby creating a temporal flux to the most critical moments in your life causing you to make bad choices.
Just a theory.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:15
Your level of trolling can only be described as truly impressive
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:33
I’d just call it being really tired.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:34
Being tired works for you ;P
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 14:05
Wow that’s really good then! Do you swim? Or any other cardio activity? Maybe you just have a good heart lol. Or is it all that survival horror gaming that’s keeping your heart fit.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 15:28
I don’t swim either.
I am quite into calisthenics though. You know, bar-exercises (I wish that meant what it sounds like).
But I do not believe my heart would survive horror games. I’m a pansy that way.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
Plus you know they only cost R5 to make. 😉
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
Don’t forget the pack of jelly tots.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:03
You’ll be surprised how little those cost to make. I’VE SEEN IT. 😀
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:18
I have a pair of Reebok’s that are so damn comfortable! And I’m quite fussy about shoes
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 14:03
Nice! Yeah I use my shoes for running, so it’s more so that I don’t hurt my ankles or knees.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:14
As long as it’s not as revolting and stubborn headed as Roach… I’ll be happy…
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:15
He’s not stubborn, the invisible wall is stopping him.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:17
Good Lord man! If only that could be fixed, I would certainly give TW3 a 10/10….
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:18
Yeah, Roach really does annoy me quite a bit
HvR
June 4, 2015 at 15:46
Heard you can hire the ugly fat chicks in the game to give you piggy back rides across the plains #nou_soek_ek_k@k
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:09
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:23
Thanks for this, the Inkspots and Fallout are synonymous. One of the things that sets Fallout ahead of other games.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
”
PC version includes a “Classic Mode” that will feature a bird’s-eye view like the original titles”
OOOOOOHHH nice
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:11
I saw that & was like… 11/10 will play that way.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:23
12/10 will buy. 13/10 will pirate. 14/10 will die five times in the first ten minutes.
I’m still trying to kill single enemies in Wasteland 2. Old school Fallout inspired games are hard.
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:21
So the game is gonna be turn based?
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:26
That really grabbed my attention
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
I call BS
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 11:12
Hammer, I require the use of your “Shit” key.
Hammersteyn
June 4, 2015 at 11:12
XD
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:15
Agreed.
David
June 4, 2015 at 11:10
Triggered.
Misogyny 2015 confirmed.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:12
Honestly I hate all this new age hippie liberal Politically correct BS that goes on this site. Lets just be thankful that there is a Fallout 4.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:15
*Timmy_The_meh_Toll 😛
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:18
Yip Rince the chemicals in my my head made me do it .
kuuu(UMAR)rrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:12
Probably won’t be the case.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:13
I’d be surprised if this were true.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:13
I’m surprised Failout 4 is true, so this is pretty plausible. 😛
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:17
You’re a goldfish, everything surprises you. ;P
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:18
I’m surprised Failout 4 is true, so… Wait, what? O_o
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:21
And I thought my memory was bad!
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:15
There are probably some liberal hippies that want to go Kardashian on this and start off playing as a male, and then have gender surgery and transform into a freak(female) lol.
konfab
June 4, 2015 at 11:17
Dragon Age had 4 different voice options covering quite a wide variety desires.
There is no excuse
Vulcha
June 4, 2015 at 13:08
I agree. Mass Effect had a voice actor for each gender… Even Saints Row had 3 options per gender. No reason why having a vocal character should mean that one can only play as a male.
Which is why I don’t actually believe this “disgruntled employee”.
konfab
June 4, 2015 at 11:19
That disgruntled employee is probably some neckbeard who trolls /pol/ and /v/.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:20
The only thing that could make the internet swoon more than Fallout 4 is Half Life 3.
After saying that, I cannot. wait. for. Fallout 4.
Where do I pre-order? NOW!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:22
Also. I thought I heard the voice of Ron Pearlman in that trailer. I could just be hearing things. But that would be AWESOME.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:24
I hope this isn’t true. Fallout and Elder Scrolls games have always been about creating your own very unique protagonist.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:25
Well.. I have honestly never played a female character in any of the games that have the option. So I don’t personally have a problem with this. Additionally, if the story they want to tell requires a male protaganist, so be it. That is a dev decision and I don’t think we can argue about it until we’ve played the game.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:27
well said
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:28
I’ve never played a female character either, but I do recall not all gamers are male.
I’m just saying. Imo, I liked how you could create a unique character in the previous versions
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:30
Fair enough. I understand that point. If the story did not require a male protagonist and didn’t give us a female option then I’d be on your side. But we don’t know enough about the game to be going to war just yet.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:31
Exactly. We don’t know. That’s why I’m comparing it to the Fallouts that came before it.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:31
But it’s war. War never changes.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:32
Well played, sir. Well played. 😀
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:32
XD
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:26
Who cares if you cant be a female. You cant be rat or alien either. There will probably be plenty of choices.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:27
I would think females gamers might care if you can create a unique male character but no female version.
Unless, of course, if the protagonist is going to be a pre-made, pre-determined character. Which would suck.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:29
I would think female gamers wouldnt give a toss really. I wouldnt care if you could only play female.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:29
You’re missing the point I’m making. Completely. So I’ll just leave it there.
Timmy_the_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
Ok, I dont want to get into any heated debates anyway, i am just glad Fallout 4 is a real thing, and actually I normally agree with most of your comments on this site compared to almost all the other people here.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:36
Haha. Fair enough.
Let’s just be glad Fallout 4 is coming. 🙂
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
Yes, my sister in Oz has already pre-ordered it.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:38
I’m waiting to see what the CE looks like. Might actually opt for that.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:47
CE?
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:47
Collectors Edition 🙂
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:49
Yes, now you talking, im already eying out the Nuka Cola shirts. Also the necklaces are cool, but at 110$
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:55
Yea. Sucks having a currency that’s sitting where ours is.
I’ve only got a few bottlecaps, but they also cost me quite a penny back in the day. Luckily the Rand was better then at least.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:56
Nice
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:49
I can imagine the box set will have a huge male on the front with some damsel in distress in the background. Did I say white, heterosexual male too?
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:49
lets hope so.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:52
ohh, racist too eh?
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:55
please buy a dictionary.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:56
Buy some glasses. I said WHITE HETEROSEXUAL. You agreed.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:58
How on earth does that make me racist!
Please also look up sarcasm.
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 11:58
And Trolling…
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
INDEED 🙂 tehehehe
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
Rince goes closer to sardonic 😉
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
More like sodo… Wait. O_o
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
You just had to go there. 😛
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
He has to make up for Dutch being away
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
I know. It’s a tough, thankless task. But someone has to do it.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:07
Where did Dutch go?
*Edit: Seriously. Where did he go? If he REALLY went for gender sensitivity training I’d applaud humanity. That would be awesome. But if not then Blood has let me down. 😛
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 12:07
Gender sensitivity training.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
Wait. For real? I mean… totally appropriate. 😛
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:11
Lol. Croatia or some such nonsense.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:12
I don’t think he is going to get gender sensitivity training in Eastern Europe. 😛
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
He’s going to be there a while. O_o
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
I didn’t go there, you mad bro? O_o
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
XD
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
Hehe, sorry, I was trolling the troll, thought you got that 😛
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
*Does happy dance
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:41
Agreed.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:38
Yeah, because the male role is so over-saturated now you wouldn’t care would you. Imagine is EVERY game was a femmiz?!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:29
If female gamers care more about gender choice than a good bloody story that requires a male lead (with some element of characterisation), then those gamers don’t understand artistic license. And they should just give up playing games for games sake.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:30
Missing
the
point
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:31
No. No. I get your point. But I just don’t think we know enough (or anything) about the story to be making the call just yet.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:42
If a female gamer only has a choice to be a male in 99% of games because of ‘artistic license’ that says something about the ‘art’ being created and for whom.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:44
Agreed. But that isn’t the case. If it were, I’d think you’d need to be more sensitive. But that also shouldn’t stop artistic license on the other hand. To force a female gender choice on a developer when the story they want to tell requires (for whatever reason) a male is just as wrong as denying the female gender choice when the story does not require a specific lead.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:45
The point is they always allowed you to choose. What are they doing now? Going back to the 80s when the idea of a gamer was some spotty male geek? we’re supposed to have progressed, not digressed.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:50
Again, if that were the case I’d be on your side. But they could also be constructing a specific narrative. We just don’t have enough information to make that call yet. Progress is also where artists are allowed to make art and not be bound by narrow societal boundaries or perspectives. 😛
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:51
Then why are you defending the idea if you are saying ‘could, could, could’? Defend it if you know what the story is 😛
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:57
Throughout this thread I’ve only been cautioning against taking a stance yet until we know. If the story is a narrative driven piece of art that requires a male lead, then so be it. Don’t get upset. BUT if the game is generic and there is no reason WHATSOEVER to have a specific gender lead, then give us some equality and choice.
How is this not the logical position when there is a clear absence of information on the story?
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:48
Females probably. Opps, my bad. Games are only for men because the stories are almost ALWAYS with men because of artistic licence, right?
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
Honestly I hope you actually speak to females about this and dont just speak for them. All the female gamers I know I have asked them about this, and they say they dont care, as long as the game is good, thats the main thing. I for one would not care if you could only be female, would make no difference to me
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:03
It would make a difference to you. Just like it makes a difference to people of colour who have to play white males in every game because STORY.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:04
At least Triss has red hair, so that should make you feel better. ;P
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:13
Sadly she came across as having a soul 🙁 Let down
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:14
I don’t mind: There is only Yennefer.
;P
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:10
I must say, that eyebrow slider was always too short for the characters I wanted to create.
#selftrolling
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:12
lol
David Weatherhead
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
Except it is only true pertaining to the story, as per the leak, and according to the leak you can also change gender after the story.
So (barring this is all true of course) I kinda feel like, they have a specific story to tell, but won’t prevent you from exploring and realising your own story afterwards though, where you can be your own gender, etc.
It feels to me as though this article wasn’t objectively assessed, and knee-jerked a little.
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 11:38
thing is, Mass Effect managed to allow for gender options – and tell a specific narrative.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:42
Just because you can do a thing, doesn’t mean you must (or even that you should). Different types of narratives can co-exist in the realm of gaming. 🙂
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
So the 99% of males in games is just a different type of narrative and not some broken system? Riiiight.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:53
No. No. That’s not what I’m saying. Missing the point. I’m saying that if there is a narrative or artistic reason for having a set male (or FEMALE) lead (and the story requires it) then so be it. We should respect that. But if the character is generic and the story does not require a specific gender, then of course choice should be necessary.
Besides, I doubt your 99% is anywhere near accurate for modern gaming RPG-esque franchises.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
99% modern gaming lead character female story, not female looking. Even Dragon Age’s choice of using a women doesn’t change the actual story. Now something like Remember Me, different 🙂 PS. And agree if the story calls for a male to e in the lead (like Witcher III).
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:56
And in DA I applued the choice of gender because that is EXACLY true. You’re 100% correct. If there was no choice for a female gender in the new DA, I’d be on your side. BUT there are games where the narrative is crafted for a specific character or gender and to DEMAND a female lead IGNORES the realities of the narrative that the developer is trying to construct.
Go demand a female Geralt. See where that gets you. It’s a story. It’s a narrative. It’s crafted for specific reasons. To ignore that is folly. And we don’t yet know what Bethesda is trying to do with Fallout 4 yet so we really can’t get on the high horse yet.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:58
Totally agree when the narrative calls for it. But the arguments above by people like ‘lame troll’ are not what you are saying. They are the average ‘I am man, if I say it’s okay then why they complain’ which I am so tired of hearing.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
I am not the average “I am man, if I say it’s okay then why they complain”. I didn’t study anthropology for so many damn years to be grouped with uninformed misogynists. My argument is considerably more nuanced than that and it’s only fair that it be taken on it’s specific merits and not your perception of other people’s arguments. 😉
P.S. I still like you Rince. Even though I’m against you today. 😀
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:12
I hate you anti0femminiz! Nah, it’s difficult to rein in an argument jumping from comment to comment and agree you have a nuanced approach,. Think your start with JJ’s original comment was what set me off 😛
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 12:14
Being a small package doesn’t make you dynamite.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:15
It does in the right place, like BED! BOOOOOM! Short fuse though 🙁 I mean 0_O
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 12:28
Funny how ‘lame troll’ doesn’t mind playing as a female. Maybe you should actually read my comments. Funny how a lot of the LG staff and movies coffee boys seem the need to incite this kind of an article. The real gamers here just care aout the quality of games etc , not all this feminist, politically correct rubbish
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:32
Media consumed by humans should be considerate of feminist, politically correct rubbish. Especially if young adults are going to be playing these games. We learn social norms not only from our parents, and each other, but also from what media we consume. It is a perfectly legitimate discussion.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 12:36
Media developed should ensure sustainability of the company producing it and to maximize profits for the company and its shareholders.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:42
Wow. That’s the biggest load of BS I have ever read in my life. Thank the Gods people are considerably more aware and this is not always the case. See EA and the golden award of poo it keeps getting. 😉
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 12:52
Why on earth is it BS. Do you think developers are there to give you an education and teach you morality and teach you about society etc. They are a company and want to create profits and expand their business. How they go about it is up to them?
Do understand capitalism?
Maybe you should start a non-profit socialist game studio?
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:59
No. No. No. Free market capitalism with no social enforcement whatsoever is a sure fire way to ensure our extinction. Anyone who thinks differently is a fool. If the goal of a company is only to maximise profit with no sense of sustainability or social consciousness then say cheers now and enjoy the few decades you have left to spend your billions. Goodbye Amazon rainforest. Goodbye polar ice caps. Hello highest concentration of carbon dioxide ever seen… oh… wait… that one is already here. Right.
Don’t. Be. Naive. Marx and Engels certainly raise enough points to warrant a closer inspection of the great advances of the modern capitalist agenda.
That being said I’m not against companies making money. Of course not. But to do so without any social consciousness is reprehensible. And needs to be stopped in it’s bloody path immediately.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 13:00
Read my first comment!
Media developed should ensure sustainability
I even mentioned sustainability before profits.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 13:03
You said “sustainability of the company”. Of the company. Of the capitalistic company, and its own agenda to literally “maximi[s]e profits” and survival above all else.
Now go reread my comment where sustainability is CLEARLY about society, morality, the environment, etc. I.e. NOT just the company. But the proletariat as well.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 13:06
Honestly I dont know what you are on about now.
If the game studios cant make money, then there is no game industry!
So who are we to tell them what they should or should not put in their games, they will know better than us because they are doing it for their survival.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 13:08
I can see that you have no idea what I’m talking about. Let us just leave it there. 🙂 At least in your future we may get to live Fallout 4 before we play it. 😉 That’s some good news, at least! 😀
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 13:11
Yes I agree, i dont really know what you are on about. PS I do like the environment.
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
Yeah, I get that. Like The Witcher 3 – great game, tells a story, has set character, and that’s cool. Bethesda’s RPG’s have always allowed you to carve your own hero. Taking that away would incite a lot of rage.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:44
Yup. So sick of males using the ‘it’s art man’ excuse when people have a legitimate concern.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:44
IT’S MAN-ART!
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:45
BWAHAHA! Damn straight-white-male it is!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
Kinda sucks if it is really art and you dismiss it because you can’t be arsed to look at the evidence (or consider the lack thereof). This is equally as frustrating for me.
David Weatherhead
June 4, 2015 at 11:47
Fair enough. If the game releases and it is absolutely clear that they could have done that then it will make for a very interesting discussion.
Part of me hopes that this isn’t the case, but part me is also glad they want to focus more on story.
FemShep was the best, but then someone said my FemShep looked like my mom… So I played with vanilla Shep :'(
Mossel
June 4, 2015 at 11:52
I’m planning on playing as a Femshep next! She will be a total bitch renegade.
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 12:05
Jennifer Hale ruled that role. Femshep for life.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:17
I liked her as Bastila Shan
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:16
Lies
Steffmeister
June 4, 2015 at 11:38
Yeah, that’s what I like the most of FO & ES. I would be a little disappointed if its true.
HvR
June 4, 2015 at 15:55
Actually would prefer them sticking to a single gender and do it properly, other Fallout and Elder Scrolls games you play generic character with or without boobs.
If you do not do it properly like Mass Effect I do not see why to do it at all and is why so many games fall fall in the story department these days because the main character must be bland, generic and unoffensive.
ReaperOfSquirrels
June 4, 2015 at 11:26
Maybe there won’t be gender options, but you can only play as a female?
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:27
ERMAHGAWD THE END OF GAMING!
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:28
*Black female
konfab
June 4, 2015 at 13:59
Black genderfluid trans female.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:01
I think every SJW ever just creamed their pants.
konfab
June 4, 2015 at 14:07
Cream is white, just like the patriarchy. Check your body-fluid colour privilege you shitlord 😉
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:10
XD!!!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:33
I would still pre-order. Because I trust Bethesda enough to know that if that were the only option, there would be a very real reason for this and the game would still be AWESOME. And the story would be AWESOME. And my pet attack (not-COD) dog would be AWESOME.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
Awesome story… from Bethesda? Lay off the crack. ;P
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:39
I can’t. Bethesda ship it straight to my door. I’m a Fallout 3 groupie. I JUST NEED MORE FALLOUT!
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:42
Bethesda are some of the best gaming story tellers there are. My opinion of course.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:35
I’m also going with that approach. I’m optimistic about it.
You can’t really compare it to The Witcher 3 in a way, because it’s so incredibly different of a game. BUT, they can certainly learn quite a bunch from it.
ReaperOfSquirrels
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
Totally agree with you, I’d still get the game and play the hell out of it. I don’t care if the protagonist is male or female, as long as the game is good.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:39
Exactly, there is another article going around saying dont order Fallout 4. But I mean this is Fallout 4 and Bethesda and I mean the trailor!
No Brainer pre-order of all time ever ever.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:40
I mean the article says dont pre-order, not order.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:41
I didn’t even pre-order the Witcher 3. I mean yeah – great game. Looks great. But this is FALLOUT we’re talking about. The most critical and impressive titles I’ve ever played are the Total War and Fallout franchises. These are things I sink LIFE into. Pre-order. Every. Single. Time.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
The witcher what now, never heard of it. Where is Ryanza though I miss trolling him.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
I must say, I really have waited long and patiently for a new Fallout. Many of us have. On that alone (and the history of the game) I opt for pre-order.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
^This 100%
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:02
Of the CE
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:26
One can only hope that Bethesda take a leaf out of Projekt Reds book and do not use the same 5 voice actors for 800 NPCs.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 11:28
I’ve come to the conclusion that if they picked up Liam Neeson for Fallout 3 then they know the value of good (and varied) voice actors. That game was just… alive. Immersion 101 classes should field a whole semester on Fallout 3.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:30
They spent 99% of the production budget on Patrick Stewart and Sean Bean voice work in Oblivion and the other 5 voices had to try and vary that horrible American twang for everybody else. Same voices used in Fallout and Skyrim.
Give me the 950 actors that were cast for Witcher 3 anyday. I LOVE THE BRITISH accents. 🙂
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:32
I only like the British accents because it makes Geralt sound more refined 😉
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:33
Geralt does better voice work than Clint Eastwood lol how he keeps his voice from crackling at such a low monotone is pure talent lol
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:33
Haha. It is.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:50
My voice is BAD ASS
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:50
I disagree
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:51
Mine is
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:51
Nooooo
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:55
Mine is so 110% awesome!
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
That’s what she…..no wait…that doesn’t sound right
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:16
Hahaha, dat face!
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 11:47
Agreed. Having one famous actor and 5 shit ones doesn’t a game make.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
My favorite voice actor this year is surprisingly The Brummie Red Baron. Excellent cast. His Birmingham accent is fantastic. Out of the 80hours so far, I have only heard Charles Dance for 2 minutes lol
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
The Red Baron. He had so much character that fellow.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:04
“My script was writing by a plowing ass fudger meat puppet.” – Red Baron
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:06
There is so much I want to say now about him, but SPOILERS.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:11
The language used in the game is better than The Game of Thrones.
Have you noticed how well they made the facial expressions go with the incredible writing, besides the amazing character models. They managed to stay clear of uncanny valley baby oil Inquisition look.
Even the children are borderline fantasy with big noses but still stay real.
Lots of talent at CD Projekt Red.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:14
What I particularly appreciate (and I can’t stress this enough) is how they don’t unnecessarily shrug or move their arms during conversation like most characters in games do. They have proper life-like movements.
Okay, with regards to the children…here’s my big complaint.
You can hear which ones are adult women they got to make the voices for the children so clearly and it really bothers me.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:16
Less is more as they say. They nailed the body gestures perfectly. Even when Gerald would be talking to a crazy person, the camera would pause on him and he would do a tiny little shrug to show OK carry on with your sentence you crazy lunatic. No mo cap either, just animation.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:17
I love stuff like that. Makes it so you never want to skip a dialogue.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:17
Now Bethesda on the other hand, we have been too spoilt.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:21
Unless of course, one of those voice actors is Troy (I voice Every F@#$ING thing) Baker….
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:23
I’m still waiting for H.Jon Benjamin to give his voice to a video game. (the guy who does Archer – for those who don’t know)
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:25
He is the singular reason I do not watch Archer. Out of about a hundred reasons. But he is RIGHT up there at number one.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:29
I originally liked him in Dr Katz. Only know him from Family Guy and Archer otherwise really.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 12:26
He sounds the same in Bob’s Burgers.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:27
Tony Jay… Better known as Mega Byte in Reboot…
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:28
*mind explodes from massive nostalgic influx*
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:30
That old toppie had the voice of a REAL villain…
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:32
He really did.
I must say, Mark Hamil does a stellar job with The Joker.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:35
Oooh Yes!!! He does!
(For nostalgias sake….)
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:36
I don’t even need to watch, I have it all on my media PC
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:36
Hehehe, me too….
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:41
excellent
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:44
Is it wrong that I still regard his voice as the best in the world though? his voice certainly influenced me when I was a wee little one….
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:52
It really is unique, so I can see your point.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:15
Same here
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:25
Exception to the rule, Joel, Delsin Rowe, Talion, Ocelot, Pagan Min, Jack Mitchel all sound so different. That man can throw his voice like Nolan North and you would not know its him.
Hell, I only found out after finishing TLOU that David was Nolan North 🙂
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:27
Yep! He is quite talented!
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 12:29
Just look at this picture, I bet you can already recognize the voice 😛 the same voice for every other NPC in every Bethesda game… RUNS
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:15
^This!
David Weatherhead
June 4, 2015 at 11:30
Article focusing so heavy on character gender… but hardly a mention of this in the leak
“You can only play as a male in the main story, but can change gender after completing the story”
I mean that alone changes the discussion somewhat.
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 11:37
Thanks. Oversight, has been amended.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:14
😛
Steffmeister
June 4, 2015 at 11:41
I like playing as a female in RPG’s…. wait, did I just type that out loud
konfab
June 4, 2015 at 13:57
Well if you have to spend 120 hours looking at someone’s ass, it might as well be one that you can appreciate.
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:43
lol No gender in The Witcher 3 either 😛
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:44
Geralt has no gender?
But how does he get to bowchickabowwow so much?
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:44
He uses Aard
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 11:48
Haha!
oVg
June 4, 2015 at 11:54
you fell into my…
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 12:24
WTF does a drowner know? 😛
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:29
It knows how to drown people in VERY shallow bodies of water? I mean… it’s actually pretty impressive.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:14
Unless you stroll along and meet a lvl15 one!
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 11:56
Just thinking about it. People crying about being a man only for story should just think about Tomb Raider (2013). Same logic means that you should’ve been able to choose a man or a woman, right? Yeah, that wouldn’t have worked.
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 11:59
There’s precedent. Fallout/Elder Scrolls have always had you playing as your created character. Tomb Raider has always been Lara’s story. The Witcher is about Geralt. That’s fine. Taking the choice away would suck.
Blood Emperor Trevor
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
You said that in a much nicer way than I was going to. 😉
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:10
We know! 😛
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:11
Most people say hello nicer than you do ;P
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:12
The smart ones run before he gets a chance to 😛
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:16
XD
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:00
Fair enough, but then don’t make it about gender, make it about the choice itself. Far too many SJW’s about.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:05
Dragon Age 2 had a fixed character (but with whatever gender). Dragon Age 1 was free. So what is precedent for DA: I? Precedent shouldn’t restrict artistic licence for Devs that have a track record of really good games with a great immersive story.
Fallout 4 may be (yet unnamed lead protagonist’s) story. And may lead to Fallout 5, Fallout 6, and Fallout 7. I hope. 😀
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 12:08
I don’t really gel with the artistic licence thing. Yes, for some stories it is necessary to tell a story in a particular way, with a particular character, of a particular persuasion, gender, sex, shape, size, whatever.
This is a brand new story in a familiar universe. Any story here, that would focus on a single gendered/aged/sized/shaped/coloured character would be driven by choice, not necessity.
RinceTheElfRoot
June 4, 2015 at 12:10
Staph making the sense!
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:13
Hahaha
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:13
So, you would complain if the choice was to immerse a character in an established universe, rather than to keep it feeling generic. So adding another layer of story and immersion is bad because in the past it wasn’t there?
That’s really counter-intuitive.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 12:15
exactly
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 12:27
No, it IS possible to give players choice, and immerse the player in an incredible world – with a layered story. Once again, see Mass Effect.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:30
It’s possible, but then again it may not be the right choice. What if being a male character is part of the story? What if it’s integral? As pointed out by Sargon, it’s way too early to be raging about it. If it is a generic male character, then the rage is justified. If it’s not, and its central to the story, then there’s nothing to rage about. From this rumour, it sounds like the latter is more likely, but we’ll see.
As I said on twitter, caring about a character (the main character) is one of the most immersive things possible. And keeping it generic stifles a lot of the ability to do so. In ME it worked because they made everything about Shephard, the surname. That was intentional. But in this case that might not be possible.
Time will tell.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:15
Yeah the artistic license thing is a medium that people use far too often. But it is really something that shouldn’t be thrown away. It’s the reason scientists and artists were brutally oppressed by the church (all too recently). There is a place for this perspective.
But we also shouldn’t let it be co-opted when it isn’t appropriate. And I agree with you that it certainly would be driven by choice. The developers choice. When did we stop trusting them to craft narratives in their own universe? I mean.. do we really know enough yet to say that this is the wrong call?
It’s an interesting debate to be had, for sure. But shouldn’t we have the debate after we play the game and have considerably more information? The option (alleged) to change gender after the story certainly highlights an awareness of this issue (as Bethesda are sure to have).
Geoffrey Tim
June 4, 2015 at 12:18
Yeah for sure. This is all very crazy speculation and rumour right now – and it’s entirely likely that Bethesda won’t be doing this. But what the topic is doing right now is leading to some good discussion.
Vulcha
June 4, 2015 at 13:15
Yes, DA2 got rid of the character choice, and that ruined immersion in my opinion. And I do believe they got criticized heavily for it.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 13:17
I know that games are never 100% comparable, but some companies could at least look at what happened to others regarding certain choices before making the same mistakes themselves.
I’m not necessarily saying this is one of those cases, but it’s an example.
ChaosPixy
June 4, 2015 at 12:01
In The Witcher Geralt is the main character, should we be asking CD Projekt to give us the option to play as a female variant of the character? How would that work with in the games story/narrative?
I want to play Tomb Raider as a boy! …See what I’m getting at here?
Yes, Fallout in the past has given you that option, but if the narrative of the story requires a male protagonist then I don’t see the issue. Besides the rumour is after the main story you can get a sex change.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:13
Your point is valid sir
Deceased
June 4, 2015 at 12:02
3 Times the size of Skyrim and I haven’t even touched TW3?!
My life is officially over – there is no way I’ll ever make it through this backlog :'(
VoidWalker
June 4, 2015 at 12:19
I personally don’t care about the gender options. They gave a perfectly acceptable explanation for their choice. I find the idea of writing an entire article about it to be a little strange though.
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:19
Rumours make for such serious debates 😀
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:20
I’ve (in the post – not recently – I promise!) read some other gaming sites and scroll down to their comments section. And often I find very little of substance there. So I do appreciate the very passionate individuals that frequent this site. It makes my gaming news consumption even more interesting (and engaging/immersive). 🙂
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:21
It does. We get upset because we care 😀
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:22
Holy Moley! Immersive Gaming news! We Need To Sell This To EA!
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:23
DLC story updates.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:24
We can make Billions!!!
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 12:23
They’ll re-package and re-sell it.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
June 4, 2015 at 12:25
With the Frostbite engine….
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:26
We can add Direcx T North for advanced written word optics.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:22
You read your websites in the post? O_o
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:27
I CHANGED IT! You got me. I made a mistake.
THE SHAME!
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:27
I wasn’t even being nasty, just asking a question. O_o
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:28
Well I don’t care. You suck. 😛
Btw. My mistake wasn’t in the post. It was actually BEFRIENDING YOU that was the mistake! Hahahaha!
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 12:31
You’re the one who didn’t pitch for the weekend of awesome.
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 12:33
Because I saw this article from the future the day before I was due to arrive and KNEW what you would do to me!
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 12:31
He’s Pariah, don’t think they have friends. EVER. 😛
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:03
That hurts my feelings.
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 14:24
*Sheds tear.
Sorry, was chopping some onions.
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:27
At least we know why your breath smells.
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 14:28
That’s the beer… 😉
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:13
xD
CypherGate
June 4, 2015 at 13:05
Many will hate me right now but I never enjoyed Fallout 3 at all. I found it to be tedious and boring. Hope the ones who enjoyed the previous fallout have a ball of a time with the new one soon.
Admiral Chief's Adventure
June 4, 2015 at 13:17
SO MANY COMMENTS!
Captain JJ the_scarrrr
June 4, 2015 at 13:18
ANOTHER ONE!
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 13:33
Imagine if Ryanza was here. BTW what happened to him I was away for a while?
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:02
He got a 1 week ban for going off the rails with personal insults and the like. He hasn’t been back since.
Timmy_The_Good_Troll
June 4, 2015 at 14:18
Thanks for the info. I miss trolling him, the movies coffee boy is so boring.
Steffmeister
June 4, 2015 at 13:46
299 comments…. lets make it 300 🙂
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 14:24
…comment…
Pariah
June 4, 2015 at 14:26
A sai.
schitsophrenic-toothbrush
June 4, 2015 at 14:27
October 2015 release date!!! *blows his load* please be true..
Lord Chaos
June 4, 2015 at 14:31
But… Then I’ll have to take leave then and work in December when no one else is here.
Wait…
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 15:56
Doubles the total Fallout 4 time, is all I’m thinking. 😉
rollingmol
June 4, 2015 at 15:51
5 dlc’s 10 dolla replace dog with pink unicorn. Wonder if people will do the same as batman and wait for the game of the year edition…:)
Spy Master Tokashi
June 4, 2015 at 15:54
Huh what is fallout?
SargonTheBatpandaOfTI5
June 4, 2015 at 15:55
There is a part of me. Somewhere deep and dark. That just died.
And it’s your fault.
Charming
June 4, 2015 at 21:00
=@$Some days with gamer… Keep Reading
Sovereign
June 5, 2015 at 12:26
Pc gamers shouldn’t worry. The mod community will fix it. Console gamers should’ve known what they were giving up.