we’ll have to see when killzone is on the shelves, but as you’ve stated, developers will only get better when they start unlocking the power of each respective console.
hideo’s statement was maybe true fro them at the time, you never know.
but mgs4 is visually stunning and i doubt that kz2 will compare… will have to wait and see.

on both the 360 and PS3 (more so with the PS3), understanding what the limit of a multithreaded CPU is very difficult and people will keep leaning new tricks to get more out of the CPUs. So at the time when Kojima said it was the limit, it probably was…

Ok, so the limit keeps on moving around. What about all these devs coming out saying they are only using X percentage of the PS3? On what do they base their X percentage? These estimations are all BS imo.

Me? Never!

hmmm… well, the hardware limits don’t change… but it’s all in the software my friend… As time goes on, Sony release better developer tools, and the developers use far more advanced software etc… So they begin to cut out and edit the codes used to make everything run better. As they free up some power, they then can allocate it to the graphics and what not… I mean, if you compare a modern game to on old game, the modern game uses hardware faaaaar more efficiently then the older game, thus more “power” harnessed.

Well its not exactly an estimation. There are developer tools which can tell you the processor use – i know the ps2 has this… it does get confusing when you working with multiple cores though.

This whole article was about graphics and not about the deeper meaning of the storiers ok((darthdad)) and just by looking at those two comparison pics even a stupid person would say that the Killzone 2 pic had better graphics than the MGS4 one.

And if indeed The final Killzone 2 game’s Graphics are as good as in the Killzone 2 picture above, then its looking pretty bleak for MGS4′s graphic superiority.

ummmm…….

I think Kojima made MGS4 more like a movie and maybe Blu-ray limited him more than he thought it would. Wasn’t it a 25GB Blu-ray disc? Maybe if they use a 50GB disc they can make the game Kojima really wants. I bet if they used 50GB and redesigned MGS4 knowing everything they know now about the PS3 that they can make a game Kojima will be happy with.

I don’t think we’ll see any game max out the PS3 until the PS4 is out at least a year. There will be so many things developers figure out over time that will help their next project.

killzone doesnt push the ps3 to the limits. it simply uses ALOT of colour and blur filters. without those it looks worse then COD4. its not hard to make a good looking game in which everything is black. it just means less contrast therefore less jaggies. if it had any colour it would not look anywhere near as good as MGS4.

Dumbass.

I think first of all Kojima said that just to keep the X360 fanboys at bay for their hopes that MGS4 might be comming to the xbox obviously. I played MGS4 the past weekend and was impressed, but not blown away. I just think they’re trying to hype up people to buy “next best thing” seeing PS neglecting the advetisement department.

LBP ring any bells??? And what ever happend to Resistance 2 also being so amazing in the graphical department

like I said This article is not about the deeper meaning of the stories of the two games.

I think Kojima said that because he meant it, he could have possibly meant the limit of the blu ray disc as well cause MGS4 had to be compressed in some areas to fit it. Furthermore, if you remember the microwave hallway scene, where the cut scene is going on at the top while your actually playing at the bottom as well as the Raiden Vamp fight on the Metal Gear while you take on more Gekkos all of that is something pretty hard to do and pretty hard to render into a game. We must also remember the different tech that each dev was using to creat etheir games and the restrictions they posed towards the ps3 hardware, also considering the budget of each game where MGS4 took around 45 to 75 million dollars to make as opposed to Killzone 2 i remember hearing is 70 yo 90 million. Nevertheless, its obvious that Killzone 2 isnt even half the achievement MGS4 will be considering every aspect about MGS4.

Just remember various interviews indicate where hideo stated that there isnt any compression in the audio department that could also be a factor for wasting so much space.

Well even he said it himself the longer you play around with the PS3′s graphical design the more you get out of it in the end

guess u were wrong then cause i just got the killzone 2 demo and it blows mgs4 outta the water in terms of graphics plus its a better game than mgs4 cos no matter how good it is u get bored of it eventually whereas killzone 2 willl have an amazing online that will keep u coming back again and again and don’t even mention MGO cos thats a joke

u r such an idiot so wasted half of page :devil: saying that mgs 4 sucks and u call urself a game what a joke u r idiot who is comparing two different games . mgs 4 is tactical espionage action game whereas killzone is a first person shooter . mgs is with us from past 20 years . u cannot compare 2 different games . mgs 4 is clear winner in deep story and deep characters . u don’t understand this u r an idiot