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The Order: 1886 is five hours long…if you skip half of it.

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The Order: 1886, according to YouTubers who’ve uploaded the game to the internet, will last you about 5 hours; and that’s including the game’s maligned interactive cut-scenes. For many, that’s just not good enough; when throwing down $60 (or R799), people expect a game to last them a good few hours more than that. The thing is, those YouTubers have intentionally blitzed through the entire game for as short a run as possible.

When I was a kid, I could speedrun my way through Super Mario Bros 3 in about half an hour (The current record, a tool-assisted, glitched speedrun is about 3 minutes). Does that mean that Super Mario Bros 3, easily my favourite game of all time, ever, is rubbish? Of course not. Speedruns really shouldn’t count for much.

By all accounts, The Order: 1886 should take the average player, who’s likely to explore things a little, closer to 10 hours to complete. And for many, that’s still not enough. While I’m usually very much against the idea of shoe-horning multiplayer in to a game just for the sake of it, I think this is one game that could have benefited. With its dark and gloomy aesthetic, clear opposing factions and over-the-should third-person perspective, The Order: 1886 could have been this generation’s Gears of War – a game, I personally put way, way too much time in to. With that included, I think more people would find the game to be a better value proposition.

Still, the five-and-a-half-hours that being touted is for the game being run through, skipping many of the game’s story elements. If you’d like to watch that playthrough, you can hit PlayMeThrough’s YouTube feed for the whole game. Instead of that, here’s a little nod within The Order: 1886 to one of Sony’s other games.

Last Updated: February 16, 2015

111 Comments

  1. Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

    February 16, 2015 at 11:36

    Well if it’s 5 hours on a speed run then that’s fine.

    I was worried the 5 hour rumour was your average play through time. I honestly believe a $60 game should be around the 10 hour mark. 7 if it’s very linear and story driven.

    I shall put away the torch and pitchfork now that I know it was a speedrun. Thank you.

    Reply

    • Jonah Cash

      February 16, 2015 at 11:44

      I will also retract my pitchfork…. for now!! But be warned it is still right here by the door!!

      Reply

    • Admiral Chief

      February 16, 2015 at 11:52

      7 nogal?

      Reply

      • Hammersteyn

        February 16, 2015 at 11:53

        Seven upvotes, keep it like this.

        Reply

        • Admiral Chief

          February 16, 2015 at 11:55

          Indeed, that is the plan

          Reply

        • Umar

          February 16, 2015 at 11:55

          I just want to see the world burn wahahaha

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief

            February 16, 2015 at 12:07

            I fixed it

          • Umar

            February 16, 2015 at 12:11

            Not for long, back up to 8. You can’t fight fate.

          • Admiral Chief

            February 16, 2015 at 12:12

            I can make a plan
            *goes to smack keyboard in attempt to hack code

    • Spaffy

      February 16, 2015 at 11:57

      I’d give you an upvote, but you already have seven 😀

      Reply

    • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

      February 16, 2015 at 12:00

      7 is perfect for you from the looks of it?

      Reply

      • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

        February 16, 2015 at 12:01

        I hate you 🙁

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        • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

          February 16, 2015 at 12:03

          You mentioned it >_<

          I just pointed it out.

          Don't worry, Admiral will keep me informed of my lovely error earlier. Probably for a while.

          Reply

          • Admiral Chief

            February 16, 2015 at 12:08

            You are as terrible with numbers as Geoff is with 0’s

          • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

            February 16, 2015 at 12:09

            Really aren’t. But it’s ok, one Monday morning mishap isn’t something I care to have my numerical abilities judged by. 🙂

            Trolling, fair game, I deserve that. But don’t judge my mathematical ability on it 😛

          • Admiral Chief

            February 16, 2015 at 12:11

            I know, just teasing.

            However, the 1886 thing will stick around for a bit (if Llew’s trolling schedule is any indication)

          • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

            February 16, 2015 at 12:16

            Yeah I expect that lol. Major fail on my part XD Wouldn’t be Lagz if it was just left alone. 😛

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 16, 2015 at 12:26

            huh?

    • Spy Master Tokashi

      February 16, 2015 at 12:31

      I don’t know, paying $60 for a 10hour game .. eish…*looks at Dragon Age: Inquisition* now $60 for a 100 hour game … hell yeah

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      • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

        February 16, 2015 at 12:37

        It all comes down to personal preference really.

        It’s why I generally refuse to buy shooters that don’t allow me many, many hours of gameplay (Such as Borderlands).

        I also usually only buy RPG’s that allow multiple play throughs etc. That to me is value.

        a 5 hour single player shooter? Nope. Will never happen. Not enough value for me.

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        • CypherGate

          February 16, 2015 at 15:31

          I agree with you. To me like i mentioned to SpyMasterTokashi is that 100hours to me is too much. Nowadays life takes top priority and to play a 100hour game is tough. Most people I know who love games cant even finish a game that large cause of other responsibilities. I prefer games between 20 – 40hours. That would be worth the price. Also like you said that RPG’s have multiple play throughs which is great for value.

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        • Jeremy

          February 16, 2015 at 20:34

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 17, 2015 at 01:37

            No. It’s my choice. I’ll keep to mine while you keep to yours

      • CypherGate

        February 16, 2015 at 15:29

        100hours is a bit much in all honesty. Years back I wouldnt have mind 100hours, but nowadays life consumes you so you end up never ever finishing a game that big. IF you lucky and your partner is into games then sure, but how often does that happen… I think between 20 – 40 hours for a game is decent enough.

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  2. Ottokie

    February 16, 2015 at 11:39

    And for “The PreOrder”?

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  3. Umar

    February 16, 2015 at 11:42

    Seems too many people want that perfect game because of the price point, I understand it but..I don’t know, I don’t feel that completion time is directly proportional to the quality of the game. I just finished Resident Evil REmake took me 14 hours, but you can complete it in 3 (I think there is a trophy for that too)…but it was so much fun and it may be short, but it was a blast, which was all that mattered, it’s all that should matter. Also, get the game when its cheaper then if it’s too short for you.

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  4. Hammersteyn

    February 16, 2015 at 11:42

    “The Order: 18886”, first we drop the zeros now there’s an extra 8 😛 One saving grace for this game would be some form of MP or another. Preferably the same Gears of War had.

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  5. Jonah Cash

    February 16, 2015 at 11:45

    10 hours of story driven game play is good enough for me, I can really live with that! But 5 hours would not have cut it at all!! There is also the other side of the coin: a 15 hour story driven game can easily lose you at the 10 hour mark and become very boring… So this should be fine!!

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    • Hammersteyn

      February 16, 2015 at 11:51

      Shadow of Mordor almost lost me in the story

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      • Jonah Cash

        February 16, 2015 at 11:59

        Shadow of Mordor has been deleted without completion… The first game since Ninety Nine Nights(2006) and Alone in the Dark(2008)…

        Reply

        • Hammersteyn

          February 16, 2015 at 12:09

          Ending was pretty ordinary. Even the boss fight was QTE so you didn’t miss much

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      • oblivion328

        February 16, 2015 at 18:03

        It didn’t have a good one to begin with. You play if for the Nemesis System.

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    • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

      February 16, 2015 at 12:00

      My 70+ hours in Skyrim disagree.

      Reply

      • Jonah Cash

        February 16, 2015 at 12:01

        My 140+ hours in Destiny also, but I am over all sand box games!! I need a good story driven linear game and I have picked this one!! If it sucks I will paint things on my TV to make it look and feel better!!

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        • Jonah Cash

          February 16, 2015 at 12:03

          Oh and if this sucks I am just going to have to restart The Last of Us from scratch…

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      • Admiral Chief

        February 16, 2015 at 12:06

        I’ve got 269

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      • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

        February 16, 2015 at 12:38

        I think he was referring to purely story driven, linear kind of games

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        • Tosh "Did he just say that?"

          February 16, 2015 at 12:44

          I realise now after his reply. Lol. Today’s not my day. XD

          Reply

      • Jeremy

        February 16, 2015 at 20:36

        Skyrim sucks ass. Wide as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle.

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      • Don Tusk

        February 18, 2015 at 04:42

        just 70 hours? oh boy you barely scratched the surface of that game.
        i’m way over 200 and i didn’t even touch the addons yet.

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      • Charl van der Merwe

        February 18, 2015 at 08:44

        lolz, I only got bored after 200 😉

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    • Mathias

      February 16, 2015 at 14:29

      The story driven gameplay is 5 and a half hours… Then you add the exploring and stuff. Will get this game when the price drops, not before…

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    • Jeremy

      February 16, 2015 at 20:35

      • Jonah Cash

        February 17, 2015 at 08:28

        *Sigh* I wish people would just stop thinking that they know how to internet *Sigh*
        Dude, all I said was if the game is 10 hours long I would be happy, but yeah you go and believe random people on the net!! Good luck with that, it should work out very well for you in the long run…

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  6. Loftus

    February 16, 2015 at 11:47

    if you spend money at a movie theater and the movie was only 1.5 hours long but you were entertained for the whole movie would you complain about it that you rather watch a 3.5 hour movie and be bored by it 90 % of the time.

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    • Spy Master Tokashi

      February 16, 2015 at 12:32

      Comparing a movie and a game is not going to work 😉

      Reply

      • Loftus

        February 16, 2015 at 12:39

        Comparing entertainment with entertainment. if should rather have compared burning ants with a magnifying glass for 5 hours or playing The Order to make the point of quality of entertainment then i would have (”,)

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        • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

          February 16, 2015 at 12:44

          You are trying to compare interactive entertainment with non-interactive entertainment. They cannot be compared.

          Also, a movie doesn’t cost $60. If you really want to try compare them

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          • Loftus

            February 16, 2015 at 12:54

            trying and failing to compare what i see as fair value for entertainment for me. The true fact of the matter is i see value in a thing that would keep me happy for 10 hours costing me R1000.00 and you don’t. i hope they bring out amazing DLc for this game for free and you get another 5 hours of story playing when and if you pick up the game in the bargain bin

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 16, 2015 at 13:12

            Hoping for free DLC? That’s a long shot in todays industry.

            And no, I probably won’t pick up this game in the bargain bin. I generally stick to RPG’s etc where there is more gameplay attached to the game. My value.

            You don’t need to get defensive, or rude about your choice. I simply pointed out that one cannot really compare the 2 mediums because they don’t do the same thing. Anyway, I do hope you enjoy your choice of games. Regardless of whether I see value in them or not

          • Loftus

            February 16, 2015 at 13:20

            i do apologize coming over strong with my point, and i actually see your point in with values of games.

            i meant no offence or intended no rudeness. i was only using my reference point of two mediums that brings entertainment to me.

            i do hope you accept my apology and by the off chance you get to play this game that you do find it semi enjoyable.

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 16, 2015 at 13:41

            Hehe. Maybe I’m just over-monday-sensitive too. All good man.

            I saw a bit of the game at rAge. Really not my kind of game. So I highly doubt I’d ever get to play. But who knows. Maybe some steam special somewhere in the future shall have it super cheap.

          • Loftus

            February 16, 2015 at 14:01

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 16, 2015 at 14:45

            Don’t own a PS4. I am part of the glorious PC master race 😛

          • Jeremy

            February 16, 2015 at 20:41

            Masterfagshidingbehindacomputerscreenwhilesittinginmommy’sbasement.

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 17, 2015 at 01:35

            He said while typing an insult from behind a computer screen

          • Loftus

            February 17, 2015 at 07:29

            Join us infidels…we have koolaid and cookies m/(^o^)m/

          • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

            February 17, 2015 at 07:50

            lol

          • Jeremy

            February 16, 2015 at 20:40

            Movies cost more than $10, and most movies are only an hour and a half long.

    • Jeremy

      February 16, 2015 at 20:37

      • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

        February 17, 2015 at 08:00

        We know! If you’d actually READ the comments you’ll see we are talking about game length in general and what people see as value. For the love of gaming stop trying to troll

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  7. Admiral Chief

    February 16, 2015 at 11:53

    I will let you know once I WIN IT!

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    • Hammersteyn

      February 16, 2015 at 11:53

      Send me the game, keep the T-Shirt

      Reply

      • Admiral Chief

        February 16, 2015 at 11:54

        I’ll send you a game, I’m sure I have a few duplicates on GoG or HB

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        • Hammersteyn

          February 16, 2015 at 11:56

          lol I’m sure you do.

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    • Sgt. M

      February 16, 2015 at 13:51

      Isn’t this how Llew’s #7 joke started?

      Reply

  8. Rock789

    February 16, 2015 at 11:58

    Yeah, me thinks some people just feel entitled… Or just like moaning! And it’s a growing trend with most entertainment-based passtimes (games, movies, TV series, etc.).

    I’m happy with an 8 to 10 hour experience if it’s a good story – means I can actually finish the game soon coz my playtime isn’t anywhere close to where I’d want it to be… Life keeps getting in the way, so sometimes you want a reasonably short game to playthrough instead of a 100 hour behemoth!

    That’s what I’m busy doing at the moment, actually – playing through quite a few 8 – 10 hour games in my backlog… Finished more games in the past 3 weeks, even with diminished playtime coz of outside commitments, than I have in the last 3 months.

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    • Raptor Rants A Lot:Original #7

      February 16, 2015 at 12:42

      8 – 10 hours is fine. I think it’s when it gets less than that, that I start having an issue. A 5 hour SP, story driven game at $60? You must be joking. However, in this case the game was clocked because they wanted to push through quickly. So it’s not fair to call it a 5 hour game.

      But I think people bring a very valid point about how some games are becoming shorter and shorter yet costs stay at premium

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  9. Pieter Kruger

    February 16, 2015 at 12:12

    “The Order: 1886 could have been this generation’s Gears of War…” Whahaha! No Geoff, that would be the new Gears of War currently in development thank you very much! ????

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  10. Vogiir

    February 16, 2015 at 12:13

    Even if it was just 5hrs id play it. Looks good and sounds very interesting

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  11. WitWolfy

    February 16, 2015 at 12:18

    I still say if this had Co-Op it would’ve been done what Gears did for the 360 last gen.

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  12. Kikmi

    February 16, 2015 at 12:20

    *insert internet rage*
    *laugh maniacally*

    No I’m pretty fucking sure people are just moaning about everything these days to get a little of that all important internet popularity. The game hasn’t even released yet but folk are saying its shit because its 5 hours long? Bioshock Infinite was one of the best games to have come out last gen (IMO) and for me who doesnt even play that much (due to work, life, etc) had the game done in under 5 hours. Did I bitch ? Did I moan? No I fucking sat there trying to shove my tongue back in my mouth

    Nobody says you HAVE to buy the game
    Nobody says you HAVE to play the game

    Jesus Optimus Christ man, get a fucking grip.

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    • Sgt. M

      February 16, 2015 at 13:31

      “Jesus Optimus Christ man” for the win !

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  13. Michelle

    February 16, 2015 at 12:26

    Lmao,even if a game is 5 hours long, it’ll take me over a week to finish it, as I like messing around in the game.
    I hate starting a game and having it finish quickly.

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  14. Galbedir

    February 16, 2015 at 13:12

    Only time I would ever pay R799 for a game is if I’m going to get 100+ hours through Single or Online play. R799 is a stupidly high amount of cash to ask for 5-8 hours of gameplay.

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  15. RinceThis

    February 16, 2015 at 13:41

    How can they still have the run through up on youtube? Surely that’s infringing on copyrights?

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  16. Mathias

    February 16, 2015 at 14:20

    The Youtube playthrough’s player ignores some shit, but it follows the hand the game gives to him, so he isn’t really RUSHING through it.

    I mean, sure, if one starts wasting time listening to conversation, or starts to get collectibles, explores and all of that, hell, even MGR:R can last more than it lasts.

    I still believe it’s way too much money for a short, “cinematic”, QTE-ridden game. The shootouts I’ve seen all look the same to me, even when the weapons seem to be the most interesting part.

    Shame it has no MP. Gears of War is still the top TPS multiplayer I have ever played… I remember like U2’s mp a lot, but it paled in comparision to Gears. And don’t say U3. That was a piece of OP, unbalanced shit.

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  17. MrVux007

    February 16, 2015 at 14:31

    i still dont see whats the fuss about … they chose quality over quantity…..and keep in mind that many great games (that didnt had multiplayer) could be beaten in less then 5 hours had great reviews from costumer and critics side….games klike MGS(1,2,3) or Uncharted 1….60$ aint much for me (even tho i buy most of my games on second-hand from 25-35$ value) but this is one of the games i might buy at the release…now i need to wait out for proper reviews(since non-sensical crying and bitching about a game from some people is not what i call a review) 🙂 have a good day Ladies n Gents….

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  18. Mathias

    February 16, 2015 at 14:34

    Man, I haven’t seen this level of denial in a long time… Bloodborne can’t come soon enough so we can mostly forget about this.

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    • MrVux007

      February 16, 2015 at 14:37

      forget about what ? nothing bad happened (IMO)

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  19. CypherGate

    February 16, 2015 at 15:27

    If a game costs R700… then the main story with side quests should be roughly 20hours long in my opinion. Id like to feel i got my moneys worth. Multiplayer is ok in games, but it shouldnt just be added on just for the sake of multiplayer. It should add replay-ability with meaning. Like for example: Playing multiplayer on the main story again would make things more difficult and even slightly change the story now that there is an extra character playing with you. It should open up extra places that previously couldnt be explored in one player mode etc etc just to add more to the story and game if it were to be played in multiplayer.

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  20. Keal G Seo

    February 16, 2015 at 15:31

    Ok so it is 10 hours. Not enough. Sure compared to other media/entertainment that seems about fair financially, at about $6 an hour. But this is home entertainment, not going out. If I can’t get 20+ hours out of a game then it isn’t worth $60 to me. I mean I could get 90-120 hours of DVDs from red box for that. Countless hours from Netflix. Heck I could get a month of cable with a few movie channels for that.
    How about other entertainment? Heck for less than 50 we can do all kinds of stuff in Gatlinburg/Pigeon Forge over a weekend. Heck season passes aren’t $60.
    There is no excuse for a single player game to be less than 20 hours.

    “Oh but the money that went into it!” BS Say they spend an ungodly amount on it like 50 million. There are over 10 million PS4s so if only 1/10 people bought the game then they still made a profit. And again, this is a really high budget. (Destiny marketing the obvious exception) With the average AAA title coming in at 20-30 million.
    Screw all of these game devs that are shorting out on the games and ones like TRS (eVolve) selling a game for 60 but using the F2P model for DLC. They can all KMA. I’ll wait for the cheapest version. I’ll wait for this one to be 20 bucks, maybe under used, next year after everyone has played it the one time.

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    • randy marshole

      February 16, 2015 at 15:39

      Just to point out that if 1 million copies at the full $60 price the developer would lose money if the budget was 50 million, that’s because they don’t get the whole $60, the retailer takes a cut, the platform holder takes a cut which in this case doesn’t matter because it’s Sony, then you have things like production costs and shipping, advertisement (unless that’s part of the $50 million budget.

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      • Keal G Seo

        February 16, 2015 at 15:47

        No they would still come out on top because in a budget you mark what you are going to have to pay everyone. Did you not even take high school economics and learn how to draft a budget? Well, yes it is all included because you have an estimated cost of completion (budget) and an expected sales number (profit).

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        • randy marshole

          February 16, 2015 at 17:02

          No need to be a dick about it and there was no such subject as high school economics when I was at my school in the UK.
          Anyway when it comes to game budgets it is often only the development or marketing costs, which do not necessarily provide a complete picture of a game’s entire budget of development, distribution and marketing costs.
          I don’t think in a budget you put the retailers mark up as part of your budget, you surely just count the revenue what you make from the game, so if you take $45 from a $60 dollar game then that’s your return and your profit is revenue minus whole budget, the way you put it is the retailers $15 is in your own budget then you take the whole $60 and pay the retailer $15, which makes no sense.

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          • Keal G Seo

            February 16, 2015 at 17:46

            Sure there was. High school economics has been around for over 100 years. It is an elective, but an important life elective. Saying there was no economics is like saying there was no band, sports (PE), communication, debate etc etc

            But yes actually, in business (one of my minors) it is part of every budget to include ALL costs that will be incurred. Professional budgets even have a reserve for legal costs that may arise. They have the “what if” type allotments. So to say they wouldn’t include their very standard development, manufacturing, distribution, marketing, etc costs is ridiculous.

            That last bit is why you aren’t in business. You don’t count their mark up because there is no mark up. There is an MSRP that is set by the company that the retailer must agree to abide by or not get a shipment direct. That is called the shelf price and what the total return is based off of.

            You can try and rationalize it to yourself anyway you want. Go take an adult education class or go back to college/university for economics long enough to learn to draft a professional budget.

            In a way you might understand. If you were drafting a business plan to get a loan from a bank would you exclude the biggest numbers at the end? Would you exclude from your budget what your shipping costs were going to be? Would you exclude what your MSRP was going to be? Would you exclude… Same deal. A budget means everything that costs something will be listed and some things that even just “might” cost something will even be included.

          • randy marshole

            February 16, 2015 at 18:13

            So my point still stands, it doesn’t matter who makes the RRP the fact is the publisher doesn’t get the full $60, so 1 million copies sold at RRP $60 does not cover a $50 million budget, correct. Also reported game budgets don’t include everything link http://kotaku.com/how-much-does-it-cost-to-make-a-big-video-game-1501413649. You don’t understand UK schools there was no economics class unless it was in with maths (wouldn’t know because I didn’t go) there was optional lessons that include Business studies but you only could pick 2 extra subjects and there was certainly no Band and no debate teams.

          • Keal G Seo

            February 16, 2015 at 23:25

            No your point does not stand. In a budget you include EVERYTHING that will cost ANYTHING. That includes your overhead for manufacturing, distribution, console fees, retailers etc. “Including” that in the budget means what they get paid is part of your budget.

            From your link “When we do get specific numbers”, the key word there is “we” as in the public. Do you really think that numbers that vary from “one place might say $60 million, another might say $15 million.” Someone is going to get approved to start a project for 15 million that could end up costing the company 60 million? Hell no! When that budget is made it is going to be within a margin of error and I guarantee if you miss your budget by going 400% over you will never work there again.

            Again, you can try to rationalize it to yourself any way you want but until you are formerly educated on it I suggest keeping your mouth shut. I have a Masters in Mechanical Engineering, a Bachelors in Business Management and an Associates in Economics and worked as an Engineering director until I retired. Drafting budgets was part of my job for years.

          • randy marshole

            February 19, 2015 at 17:16

            A Bachelors in Business Management, wow and you still can’t comprehend basic maths, 1 million games at $60 RRP doesn’t give the creator $60 million because the store takes a cut, simple economics

          • Keal G Seo

            February 19, 2015 at 17:31

            You don’t seem to understand what a budget is. A budget includes EVERYTHING! Not just the money you spend on making the product. It also includes what you have to pay your retailers, shippers, console fees, etc…

            Let me explain it to you like you are a 5 year old since you don’t seem to get it.

            You have what is called “Sales projections” in a budget.

            Example: You expect to sell 1 million copies over the life of the product.

            Now you multiply that by your MSRP. That is not your budget. That is a final income. You then decide how much of a profit you need to make off of that. Lets say we want 10% profit minimum. That means my BUDGET is (assuming a 60 dollar game) is 54 million MAX. That means I have to pay EVERYONE including the retailers. I have to pay the retailers so that is part of my BUDGET!

            Do you get it now you fvcking retard?

          • randy marshole

            February 26, 2015 at 02:05

            you theory appears correct, albeit one tiny problem, the game publishers don’t pay the retailers, so why would it be included in they budget.

          • Keal G Seo

            February 26, 2015 at 02:23

            It would be included because the final product price (MSRP, IE price at the retailer) is included as the final value and they still have to calculate the retailers “cut”.

  21. randy marshole

    February 16, 2015 at 15:32

    Is it a speed run? just because the guy doesn’t read some text and doesn’t collect everything, take your example Super Mario World, is it a speed run if I don’t collect every coin and don’t read them little information boxes.

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  22. Jeremy

    February 16, 2015 at 20:34

  23. Jake Lesperance

    February 17, 2015 at 00:33

    Ya if it was a normal play through I would be so bummed.

    I’ve beat the evil within in 4 30 hrs and the last of us probably the same on a run that’s not a big deal

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  24. Jake Lesperance

    February 17, 2015 at 00:34

    But if normal is 5 hrs. I’ll be pretty upset

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  25. Uberutang

    February 17, 2015 at 11:07

    IT is only 5 hours at 60fps! At cinematic FPS it is 10 hours.

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  26. Pissed

    February 18, 2015 at 22:51

    Even 10 hours is too fucking low. What happened to the 20 hour min?!?

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  27. Need1eBanger .

    February 19, 2015 at 04:34

    Fuck this game, fuck next-gen consoles.

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  28. Goobzor

    February 20, 2015 at 22:41

    it is 8 hours max. looking for everything and going down all dead ends. good story but the game itself sucks.

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  29. Brek_kapitany

    February 22, 2015 at 06:27

    I have absolutely no clue how you can get more than 7 hours out of this game, even if you stare at every object that you can pick up for a good 30 seconds. I watched LIRIK play this game live and he finished it in less than 6 hours. There was no speedrunning involved and he died quite a few times and got lost ( even though the levels are absolutely linear ). I wouldn’t go as far as to call this a bad game, but it’s short and offers absolutely no replay value.

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  30. Patrick Bell

    March 27, 2015 at 03:51

    Yah i dont think you played the game bfore writing th

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