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   July 30th, 2010 clock image 10:30 am

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You would expect this to be one of those usual PC gaming vs console gaming debates, but today’s debate is a little different, because I have a lot of moaning to do.

You see, here’s my story in a nutshell. Starcraft 2 is one of the biggest games to be released this decade, and I would quite like to play it. A review copy is on its way to us, but I wanted to find out if my laptop was good enough to review it so that I could either a:) do that or b:) send it on to another reviewer with a better PC.

It’s been a day since I first installed the full game with a trial code and after a lot of work and effort, I still haven’t been able to get it to work.

Let me clarify a few things first. Number one, I am a Mac user which means that the simple fact that I even get to play Starcraft 2 on my machine is already supposed to be a huge bonus. Number two, I currently use a 13″ Macbook Pro laptop, which while being great for work, is admittedly not exactly what you would call a gaming rig. This however, doesn’t actually all matter when you can’t even get the game to run in the first place due to something silly, like a patch update.

I managed to get myself a trial code, so that i could download the whole game so long, and then test it out for a few hours to see how it handles. I was already worried that my machine wouldn’t be able to handle the games requirements, even though the minimum specs really didn’t seem too bad.

The problem is that after downloading a 7GB installer, and then waiting half an hour to install the game, it already had a patch that needed to be downloaded, the day after its release. Patches happen, I have accepted that fact, so I didn’t really have a problem with that. The actual issue arose when my patch download, for no apparent reason, stopped at 66% and told me that it had multiple issues with saving data.

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Now this is where my real issue with PC gaming begins. I did what any PC gamer does at this point, I hit up the official support forums, as well as googled my issue to see if anyone else had the problem.

I had to spend hours going through forum threads, support pages and whatnot trying to fix my issue, and the worst part is that with strange problems like this, we all know where it leads to next.

Before I knew it, I was deleting cached files, restarting my computer, trying the download again with the firewall off, trying to find places to manually download the patch and so on and so on. Heck, I even stumbled upon a major issue with the games installation that comes down to case sensitivity. yEs, CaSE seNsitivity is causing the game to not install for a lot of people with specific format types on their drives.

Once you start going through these support forums, you realise just how many different issues there are, and how many of them aren’t solved, and possibly will never be. Which means that somewhere out there, there is a die-hard Starcraft 2 fan that can’t play the game he just waited 12 years for and bought, and can’t just afford to go get another rig as a solution.

What I really don’t understand is what the beta was for, if the game was still going to release with so many problems. (I actually know for a fact that the “case sensitive” issue was reported by a beta tester, and Blizzard were aware of it but it still exists in the final release).

It’s at this point where I obviously want to play the console gaming card. With any of my consoles, when a new game comes out, I simply get home, pop the game into my drive, and play. No mess, no fuss.

It has now been an entire day since I installed Starcraft 2, and I still haven’t even seen the game. The problem is that when you develop a game for one or two consoles, you developer the game, you test it on those consoles, and when it works on one, it pretty much works on all of them. With PC gaming, developers have to develop code that will work not only on one type of machine, but an infinite ocean of configurations involving processors, graphics cards, motherboards and operating systems as well.

I don’t want to have to by a whole new machine as a solution, I don’t want to have to have an issue because the game doesn’t like my specific configuration, and I sure as hell don’t want to sit reading through countless support pages and forum threads to try and fix my problem.

I am a gamer dammit, I like playing games and I want as little as possible to get between me and actually playing those games. I don’t want to have to deal with files, folders and configuration doodads. When it comes to consoles, everything is set out in a specific way, and it works. If you play a Playstation 3 game and it needs a patch, it connects to PSN and downloads a patch the same way that every other game does.

The one shining beacon of light that the PC has at the moment is Steam. Steam is a platform that works just as well as Xbox Live or PSN. Everything is in one place, and uses the same systems to get things done and so far, I have had a really great experience with it. It does however, still not fix the issue of a having a bazillion different configurations that need to be catered to.

PC gaming is a bitch sometimes, and it’s something that I don’t want to deal with when things go sour.

For now, I’m over it. I’m sick and tired of wasting my time trying to get something to work, when all I wanted to do was try and play what looks like a really great game. I guess I’ll go and play some more console games now, because the PC games don’t want to let me play with them.

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Ok, that’s my bitching done, so let’s get onto the debate question. What do you think of all this? Will PC gaming always have problems because they are not dedicated gaming systems? Am I just unlucky, or insane? Would you rather be sitting on a couch instead of at a desk?

This covers everything there is to cover between PC gaming and console gaming. So let us know what you think below.

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  • Pcgamer

    I have both the 360 and ps3 as well as a high end pc gaming rig that I just built. I prefer playing games on the pc. If you can afford to build a high end gaming pc, the pc will trounce the consoles in almost every area. The pc controls more precisely, you get higher quality graphics at framerates far and above what is possible on the consoles. I’ll take the extra headache occasionally to experience these games on a pc.

  • bi-computeral

    just putting in my two cents. I bought this the day it was released and installed it on my 15 inch macbook pro AND my custom pc dektop rig. Both installations went flawlessly and the game plays on both of my platforms without any issue.

    I installed off the cd though. Maybe there is an issue with the digital download and macs…

  • Scooby

    Console Gamer, except for these games.

    There is a small amount of games I still play on the computer. These days it’s Starcraft 2, and a little WOW when it’s not boring.

    I use the 27 inch quad core i5 from Apple, and this game works beautifully on it. The game downloaded quick, and works flawlessly playing on high graphics. So far I have not had an issue with this game on my mac, so not all hope is lost. However, the reason I don’t play computer games much is what everyone stated above, it’s a risk, computers always have that “risk” that something will go wrong. And the risk is greater than on a console, and that’s why I stick with console gaming more often, less hassle. So I hope that Starcraft 2 continues to run smoothly and work great on here, but we’ll see…

  • http://www.bobbit.com Bobbit

    It has everything to do with Macs and PC’s. The odds are, and I suspect you know this as well, if you had a semi-decent PC with a semi-decent Graphics card you wouldn’t be writing such an idiotic post bemoaning the state of the PC platform. Repeat after me, “a macbook is not for games. A macbook is not for games.” and so on.
    The reality is that most PC games run fine and you only really run into issues if they’re shit console ports (GTA 4), pirated and cracked, or user-error.

    Sure, there will always be people who can’t get it running, but then again, most of those people are normally able to source a fix quite easily online, because shit, as you say, there are TONS of them (hyperbole anyone?) That you struggled so much to get it working is testament to your naivety in expecting SC2 to work on a shit macbook, not to the complexity in making PC games work.

    And as an aside, since this is fast becoming a console vs PC thing, even though it shouldn’t be, at least with a PC, if something breaks you can normally fix it. On a mac or console you’re fucked. You have to take it back and get it fixed at a premium.

    You’re courting disaster by using crap hardware to run a PC game. A 13″ macbook barely constitutes a “PC” and you know it (or you should know it.) Writing a god-awful, mispelled disasterpiece article bitching about PC platforms based off this is just a glaring indication at your own inability to get a little perspective on your “problem” installing SC2, not a damning indictment on the PC.

  • Alaris

    I agree that PC game developers could do a lot more to stabilize games with just a little more effort; however I still think your article deserves a call to the waaambulance. You start by acknowledging that you’re attempting to play a state of the art PC game on a less than state of the art Mac. Waaa

  • illidari

    Sooo your reviewing a game that you think you can barely pull off minimum specs on to review how the game handles? Isn’t that like an oximoron

  • taco

    you have no cock and tiny balls mac user

  • http://www.designwave.co.za Nick de Bruyne

    I see a lot of people complaining that I’m trying to run the game on a Mac. The issue here is that I didn’t even get past the patching process to get into the game.

    I have gotten the game to run on one of the other MacBook pros now, and it worked fine and runs well, proving that it’s just a random result sometimes. I still can’t get it to run on the other one though

  • http://www.designwave.co.za Nick de Bruyne

    No I said I was installing a trial to see if it handles well enough to review

  • Jman

    Honestly take some time to learn some computer literacy before you bash things. My 3 year old computer run by my 4 year old son can install and play this game. Your sorry.

  • http://www.lazygamer.co.za Gavin Mannion

    lol intelligent response FTW :w00t:

  • Axe99

    While this is just one instance of the issue, it’s indicative of a general theme in PC gaming. I started as a PC gamer, was happy editing my config.sys files, playing with autoexec.bats (yup, that’s how long ago it was!), and tinkering to make games work, but as things got more complex, it got harder and harder just to play the game. About half-way through the life of the original Playstation I gave up, and haven’t looked back (other than for the occasional turn-based strategy game). I reckon I could have played through the campaign of 3+ games in the combined amount of time I spent between the late 80s and late 90s trying to get games to work on PC. When I looked at it that way, it was a clear choice.

  • deusofnull

    How about you learn to use the computer?

  • http://playeraffinity.com/ dethgar

    Your problem is possibly a combination of ISP and patch server issues. Battle.net uses Bit Torrent P2P for patches, and if you don’t have all your ports forwarded properly you will have issues, along with the fact that some ISP’s restrict Bit Torrent traffic and even set limited amounts of transfer per x days using it. There are work arounds, but you might want to pick up the phone and call Blizzard, sometimes that is simpler than searching through the piles of related bugs and usually has a faster response time.

  • jabroney

    Dude, I’m with you..I using a laptop I got about 6 months ago, no probs!

  • Jan

    Can you help me with posting how to check my ports. I strongly suspect that the torrent thing is why I am having trouble when I have no trouble with the umpteen other games I have.
    Would the fact that my torrents have been configured to open in Limewire be anything to do with this? The fact that I start but always fail at 16% through the patch is wierd…..it’s the same same spot every time after four goes at installing.
    I have a PC with Windows 7, relatively new hardware, tried it on several different hard drives….LAN connection is unchecked etc. Nothing has ever had issues before.
    I am not slagging anything off at all….I like consoles and PC I think some games have advantages in each arena….ALL I WANT is some help to play this freaking game on my PC!
    Googling this there are a shed load of users out there having this problem RIGHT NOW but no answer is coming forth as yet.
    Someone out here MUST be able to help me….

  • Xaero

    That’s just what you get for:
    A. Trying to play games on a Mac (lol)
    and
    B. Playing it on a machine you admit isn’t even designed for gaming…

    I mean come on, how stupid are you? If you want to play games you buy a PC or the parts (if you’re knowledgeable enough to build it yourself) of a piece of hardware that’s going to play games well and is going to last. I for one put together a pc well over a year or two ago now and it’s running Starcraft 2 perfectly and defaulted to ultra settings in the options menu.

    Plus, running it on a laptop isn’t even a fair comparison to consoles anyway because I’d love to see you carry around a console with a screen slapped on it nowadays, the last time that was practical at all was in the ps2 slim days and even that was a third party add-on and wasn’t very popular.

    I grow tired of people like you that expect pc gaming to stand still and not push boundaries like console games, how would we ever make progress if we left gaming to the Bobby Koticks of this world?

  • theimpaler

    I got it running in under half an hour, i normally play games on my ps3 but theres not way i was missing out on this since i grew up with pc gaming. its rad, all tho if i still lived in mid outskits canberra where i couldnt get adsl and it might not be as user firendly.
    But i can run it and it so much flippin fun

  • theimpaler

    i left canbera to join the real world in syd by the way

  • Xaero

    100% Agree with this, again as said it’s an expensive option but not so expensive if you spread the purchases out over a couple of years.
    I own all the major consoles as well as a high spec gaming pc and if given the option I would do it all again because I’m a true gamer, one who doesn’t care what format it’s on as long as I enjoy it.

  • Tom

    That’s not true at all. I wasn’t a compute know-it-all when I was in middle school, and yet I was able to install plenty of PC games as well as fix TONS of issues. Considering I can still run today’s games on a computer that’s over 4 years old means spec sheets aren’t always a problem.

    As for the article, I think you just got unlucky. This isn’t a typical problem with most PC games so I don’t see how this stopped you from playing PC Games. What I find interesting is that you were able to solve the issue, and yeh, it took some effort, but you did. If there is a glitch in a console game, it could be weeks before its able to be fixed, whereas PC games and gamers will come up with nonofficial fixes (if needed) almost immediately.

  • truthhurts

    What kind of retard has problems installing a game nowdays? Im no computer geek, and i had no problems installing and playing it.

  • Adam

    Tough titties.

  • http://www.designwave.co.za Nick de Bruyne

    The point you guys really seem to have missed, is that I have not, in any way, complained about the game running badly on a laptop. The game didn’t install because of a patching problem. In this case specifically, it has absolutely nothing to do with the specs at all. It’s just one of those random issues that tend to happen in PC gaming.

    I’m starting to wonder if anyone read more than 5 paragraphs before commenting.

  • james

    WOW, as someone above already said. PC GAMING sucks because your MAC Cant install the game??

    Epic fail article

  • http://www.designwave.co.za Nick de Bruyne

    Was someone charging you by the word when you read the article? :ninja:

  • sNaKe

    No, tardboy, because I tested it on other machines on the same line :)

  • sNaKe

    Dude, don’t bother. Your point is being fantastically missed by 90% of the posters here.

  • http://www.bobbit.com Bobbit

    Oh no, we get his point, but it’s a stupid point. The REAL point, which Nick seems to have ironically missed, is that his entire view of a platform is coloured in some part by the use of a shitty macbook. If he had used a proper Windows PC and had a completely clean install, he wouldn’t even be writing this drivel.

    No, he was courting disaster by using a 13″ macbook, and then admitting it in a rant condemning the PC platform. We get your point that installation issues are a bitch. But you fail to concede that your installation issues are highly likely to occur when using terribly obsolete hardware. You’re not being nuanced, you’re being stubborn.

  • http://www.designwave.co.za Nick de Bruyne

    @Bobbit

    How is a less than one year old Macbook Pro “terribly obsolete” exactly? You also seem to completely forget that for one, Starcraft 2 is a fully supported Mac release and two, how does that have anything to do with a simple patching process?

    How is it that “installation issues are highly likely to occur”? The point is that there are many configurations that have to be catered for, and many people will randomly run into issues for no reason. Tons of people have installed Starcraft 2 on their Macs as well as PC’s without issues, but at the same time there are a lot of people who ran into problems for no good reason.

    That’s why this post has nothing to do with Starcraft 2 or Macs, my recent experience was nothing but a single example.

  • http://www.bobbit.com Bobbit

    Because it’s a one year old MAC book, running a shitty mac OS. That makes ALL the difference. If you had even the slightest clue about PCs you would know that.

    So it was a single example, and you dismissed an entire platform based on a single example? Please never go into real journalism. You fail at this.

  • http://www.lazygamer.co.za Gavin Mannion

    As much as I like mocking Nick about his Mac usage is it really fair to call a one year old computer obsolete?

    Blizzard also state the game works on Macs and really playing a game on a Mac or PC is really the same thing in the end. It’s like giving up your PS3 or Xbox 360 as you have had enough of console gaming. It doesn’t matter which one you used as the principle applies to both

  • Wesley Hopson

    Geez no surprise you hate pc gaming. Mac is not a operating system for gamers pure and simple.

  • 0xacdc

    PC is by definition “Personal Computer”. It’s not MS, it’s not Apple Mac, it’s not Linux, Unix. It’s not Via, Intel or AMD. It’s Personal Computer.
    On the other hands, any game console is propietary hardware with guaranted propietary software, making someone happy to play “some” games. It’s good bussines (mainly people just like it). This could seem as “the” console is “the” winner. But. There is one BIG issue. Developers, testers and advanced users use PC (at least, as well). Moreover, I want to emphesize (expert) one simple BIG fact that is not, unfortunately, in fact, realized. NOT ONLY PC SOFTWARE IS ALWAYS, FAR FAR AWAY, ANOTHER GALAXY (cause it is almost widely know fact) IN COMPARARISION TO “GAME” DEVICES (consoles) but, and remember it please, HARDWARE. Please look at, e.g. nvidia gtx 480 or even 460. Please look at AMD/ATI 5870 (without mentioning e.g. Asus news – acually and frankly means countless companies). You’re not convienced please look at DX11, AMD(ati) STREAM and Nvidia CUDA. MS Silverlight, OpenGL, OpenCL, and hole USB, WiFi, IP stuff etc etc.. If you definitely, don’t like and/or don’t care it means you don’t care. Accept it. And if so why you’re wasting your time to read this, maybe even writing your opinions, here, there and everywhere (regarding this subject, of course).
    No offence, please.

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