DOTA 2 is a blight on the gaming community 

Gavin Mannion
July 26, 2013 at 1:00 pm


Gamers and the gaming community have often been seen as being unnecessarily aggressive in games with –  slurs on people’s mothers being the absolute norm and attacks on peoples’ gender, race and belief systems simply par for the course. So why do I single out DOTA 2?

Well, because while the gaming communities are often their own worst enemies when it comes to being respected as a mature hobby and something that can be grown into a truly representative sport, it has always been inclusive of other members of the gaming community.

Yes it’s hard to get into and you need some seriously thick skin to stay here but generally gamers like gamers and things are pretty happy all round. That is until DOTA arrived. I’m generally an average gamer; I can hold my own in most games and while any game has a learning curve I’ve never before been massively abused for being a noob… that is until I tried DOTA.

These people are serious

But let’s take a step back here. The first I heard about DOTA was from a friend in the industry who has a hopeless addiction to the game. He went on about how incredible the game was and how deep the strategy and gameplay was and that I should really give it a go.

So I agreed and installed DOTA 2 and then asked if I can join his game his response surprised me

“er, no I think maybe you should just play with bots for a couple of days and then maybe”

I’ve never been invited to play a game before and then get told that they don’t want to play with me. I just thought he was being a bit of an ass so I asked some other regular DOTA players and I got the exact same response from all of them. It was amazing.

So I went online and played some DOTA 2 against the bots – and it was painfully boring. I had no idea what I was meant to do (besides the obvious) and after about 3 games I just gave up.

I then entered the South Africa DOTA 2 group on Steam. I mean South Africans are awesome people and so I’d surely find someone on there to have a casual game with me. How wrong I was. I got invited to 3 games and then when I said I was a noob I got instantly kicked. No explanation given just a pure kick.

When I asked the main chat group why no one would play with a noob I was subjected to a torrent of abuse. It was amazing. I’ve received a crap load of abuse while running this site and I have to say that the abuse I came under on the DOTA group for simply saying I’m a noob was mind-blowing.


But what’s more depressing really are posts like this that people publically post on forums like neogaf

The headline reads, Region Lock Multiplayer Games Good, which besides its horrendous English is a very strange thing to see on a gaming forum. The actual post is worse though.

“Lost 4/5 games in dota 2 today because brazil and peru player wont fucking stay in their own region.

Goes into us east/west and ruins the game.

Someone disconnects? *checks steam profile* GUESS WHAT, south american
entire game, their little group talks in their own language, when they die, they start blaming it on other people, all i see is – ‘report _____’, ‘jajaja’, ‘nob’, other broken english being spammed using mic and speaking entire time, other teammates have no clue what’s going on and is really annoying (i had a game once where 4 of us were english speakers and the 5th guy was probably spanish, he kept talking into the mic, the rest of us told him NONE of us spoke his language but he continued to speak the entire game) of course i’ve had good games with them before, but holy shit, when it’s 1 game out of 20, just fuck it, ip ban them from our region please”

So this game has become so divisive that it is now seen as acceptable to post on public forums that you don’t want people of other races and languages to play with you in your game? The game itself may be good but the vast majority of the community is an acerbic,  absolute disgrace and they really should be ashamed of themselves.

To any DOTA player who wants to say this isn’t true of them and their friends then tell me; have you complained about the Russians joining your Western servers and ruining the game?

I'm cranky, arrogant and ever so amazingly annoying but when you get to know me you will also realise I'm honest and incredibly good at describing myself... now pass me that beer

  • Beanz

    This is bullshit!

    There are plenty of sites out there to help people. Spend some time watching Purge’s videos. What you don’t seem to get is that 4 other players in your team have now wasted an hour of their time because you cant be bothered to learn how to play and just want to jump in and ruin the rest of your team’s experience. Unfortunately this game punishes you for being a bad player..once you’ve fed the other team there is very little chance of a comeback

    • DOTA_fan


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  • The Rape Train

    Lol mabye its because they don’t want to spend an entire game teaching someone the basics only to have you feed and have the game lost? Play against ai 100 times first nab

  • Andrew

    You’re missing the point, dota is a game where a word noob shouldn’t exist. Everyone knows if you got a noob in a 5v5, it automatically equates to 4v5 meaning u lose the game regardless of how pro you are, you just can’t substitute two heroes all by yourself. This is the greatest feat and downfall of moba games, no matter how good you are, you can’t win if the team you’re playing with is full of intellectually degraded russians (sip of vodka 8 year old kid to sleep better? vodka solution to everything in russia) or just stupid and or noob ppl.

  • faggotretard

    Unless you’ve actually experience the Peruvian plague, you have no right to criticize it. On top of being awful players, they can’t even communicate with English players and, most of the time, have extreme latency.

    They are the Russians of the West.

    Dota is a TEAM game. Communication is VERY important. When you get some fucking jaja-brain on your team, communication becomes impossible. Got two? Good luck. An average game of dota takes anywhere between 30-50 minutes. That is a rather long investment. Losing because you have a brain atrophied plebeian for a third wheel is not something most players come to tolerate.

    I mean, it really is a rage-inducing experience. You are going to sit there for half an hour yelling at some fucking incompetent Peruvian. You can’t coach them, you can’t reason with them, and you can’t abandon the game because low priority means even more games full of Peruvians.

  • Le Gamer Semiprofezzional

    You sir are the most direct and respectable person on the internet.

  • Netraam

    The problem is not that noobs ruin the fun. Players are always grouped with players of similar strength. You will never play a game and be abused when you win it. It is always in the losing games that people start to abuse one another. This is because they are immature and cannot stand to lose, even worse they can’t bare to look at their own failings so they decide to blame the loss (of the team) on one of their teammates.
    Only very rarely can you really blame a single player for losing and this is when they are intentionally feeding. (when you are doing this you know it)
    So take it with a grain of salt, they are just kids.

  • Miguel

    Jokes aside, I must say that I’ve experienced this and it’s begun to creep into the way I play- complaining about Russians, being aggro with noobs etc- and I hate it.

    I think online games in general reflect the inbred stupidity and ignorance that affect so many people. I’m quite a good player now, and don’t find myself on the receiving end of abuse, but I find myself less and less interested in playing games like Dota 2 because they reward people for being antisocial, dickheaded c*nts. What are we telling the next generation- that if a team effort is going poorly, we should pick on the weakest people in the team and destroy their confidence and interest? If there is one good thing I can say about the online Dota 2 community, it is that they expose what lies beneath the thin layer of “shy geekiness” that many gamers use as a way to avoid any real social contact with the world. Historically, gaming was a way for us shy kids who may not have fit in so well in society to find a sense of community. But it feels more like an outlet of rage for those who have always wanted to find someone smaller and weaker than them but simply couldn’t- at least not in the real world…

  • fatehasfans

    Dota is a great game. However, a few things ruin the experience. 1). Noobs/Stupid people (if you are going to play a game for the first time at least have the decency to learn it offline first instead of landing your team-mates in a world of hurt and expect them to carry you as you keep saying “what are the buttons?” Its a big no no – and Dota 2 is rife with this. 2). Abuse – yes you need a hard skin but lets be honest this is normal now, as tragic as that is – we are bastards to one another when we want, this will not change so we must deal with it. 3). Leavers/Afkers/Deliberate feeders – again there is no means to punish these people who can freely ruin a game at will.
    All in all you will be lucky to experience a good game with all members playing up to the end etc and little abuse around 1 times out of 10. Which is sad because it is a fantastic game AND IT’S FREE!

  • John Roscoe

    Agree with you Lazygamer EXCEPT I do want to point out one thing:

    Most disconnectors, troll players, and people who don’t want to work with the team usually come from outside the US and then join US servers. I am not saying this because I think it’s “acceptable” to slame “other races.” I am saying this because everytime you get, let’s say a Russian player, when you’re playing in the US rooms you can almost garauntee he will either abandon the game, completely ignore his team, or not grasp the fact that he’s the only one who can read Cyrillic type. This has nothing to do with being a bigot and everything the do with trends that have persisted over time. Sometimes observed fact isn’t fair.

    • John Roscoe

      and if he knows any words in English, you can guarantee they are all second and first tier expletive insults and he will spam them over and over.

      so basically my point is the biggest example of why DOTA 2 community is asinine is not because people “think it’s acceptable” to bash “other races,” but it’s because the God’s honest truth really REALLY is people from outside the US think it’s fucking hilarious to ruin our matches. You have to understand that the real world does not conform to our concepts of equity. Sometimes, especially in gaming, entire swaths of people really can display a very negative attribute.

  • SlayingRager

    most LoL and DotA players need to be shot IRL

  • michael andrews

    Why is it anything to do with world of warcraft attracts retards and fuckwits, usually with massive undeserved egos