The Xbox One is “over delivering in value” 
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Gavin Mannion
June 18, 2013 at 9:45 am

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Microsoft believes that since they are over delivering in value by such an extent that gamers are going to be flocking to the job centre to earn enough money to buy the most expensive console on the market.

Okay that’s not true but it does bring back some memories of the last console manufacturer who thought that launching a console at the $499 and $599 price tag would be acceptable.

It all ended in tears for Sony until they could release the slim with a large price cut and could eventually start clawing back that massive lead that Microsoft had snatched with their well prices, game loving, Xbox 360.

The latest PR misstep from Microsoft has been committed by Don Mattrick who believes that selling the console for $599 isn’t a ridiculous price point,  stating

“It’s a lower number than some of the analysts had forecasted

“We’re over-delivering value against other choices I think consumers can get. Any modern product these days you look at it [and] $499 isn’t a ridiculous price point. We’re delivering thousands of dollars of value to people, so I think they’re going to love it when they use it.”

I think many people would argue that the Xbox One isn’t filled with thousands of dollars of value and is rather older generation hardware, bundled with a very expensive camera that most of the gamers do not want.

But I do feel for Don and Microsoft a bit. We can all complain about the price of $499 (R5500 – R6000) but that’s less than an iPhone 5, iPad or pretty much all TV’s so it’s not really an expensive piece of tech.

Then again with most of those options you aren’t being asked to fork out over R600 an application and forced to stay online or else everything gets disabled.

From the hands on mini-reviews I’ve seen so far of the Xbox One it really is a solid piece of tech and all Microsoft need to do to make the next generation exciting is drop the online check in option. Just do it Microsoft.

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  • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

    That expression on that dudes face says it all:

    “I am a d00s, I am oblivious to that fact”

    • John Ambitious

      The microsoft/xbox one curse

    • Pi Poggenpoel

      Check his bank balance, and then check your and see whose the real one.

      • Spathi

        Well, we ACGW didn’t allege he was a poor doos, did he?

        • John Ambitious

          Yes. That’s like saying our government officials are all great guys because they have lots of money.

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          XDXDXDXD

      • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

        I’d rather have my bank balance and NOT be one. It appears you just proved who is another one

  • Macethy

    OK Mr. Smarty Pants, please name these “thousands of dollars worth of value adds” that don’t have anything to do with watching TV shows…

    • Drewidian

      Alright… I’ll take this. I have ten friends, we all buy 10 unique games worth $60, and share them with each other. Now according to MS, the original owner and a friend can play the game at the same time. so let’s do the math $600/friend. 10 Friends… Hmmmm… yep math adds up. Oh… and I didn’t have to go to the store or meet up with any of my friends to have access to their library of games…

      • z00bear

        You’re not doing the gamer stereotype any favours by not wanting to go outside.

  • Sageville

    Those “Thousands” of dollars of value sit in that spy camera and the contracts with Pizza Hut and other shite most gamers never wanted in the first place.

    It’s probably an awesome console but their DRM and other anti-consumer policies have tainted the product beyond “give a fuck” status.

  • Rinceyouropinion

    Such BS. Did anyone else see the story that they were running the demo on an Nvidia chipset with Windows 7?

    • Argentil

      Ja, I saw that. Water-cooled GTX 7xx PC’s with Windows 7. The cards could have even been Titans.

      • Rinceyouropinion

        I mean who are they kidding? I am sure that the tech is what they will offer, but it’s like they have gone out of their way to f up on every form of Marketing this basted child of a a TV set.

        • Ultimo_Cleric N7

          I didnt hear of this until now….wow that is a new kind of idiotic! I actually think Microsoft WANT to fail.

        • Argentil

          Mm, they’re in a bad position right now. There is no way most of their games will release with the same graphical level.

          Also, Killer Instinct AND Forza were on Xbox devkits.

        • Admiral Chief Groot Wors

          Basted or bastard? Or basted bastard?

          • Rinceyouropinion

            ALL OF THEM!

          • Thats_how_I_Troll

            No no no, Baas Ted

        • DarthofZA

          This is pretty standard practice. I can guarantee you that Sony were doing the same thing.

          • Rinceyouropinion

            Maybe, I think I’m just so tired of all the BS we are expected to lap up and ask for more it drives me nuts :)

          • Argentil

            Just like you’d guarantee Sony were implementing DRM? Don’t be so cynical.
            BTW: Most of the devs confirmed, via twitter, that they were running on actual PS4 hardware/devkits. I say most, because I wasn’t tracking all of them.

    • Skyblue

      It was stated that it was up to the Dev’s to decide how to advertise their wares at E3. Most were apparently using X1 devkits and the one that wasn’t was widely advertised as m$ misleading the public. It seems it doesn’t matter what they do atm, they will be crucified for it.

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    Don “the Jacket” Mattrick, I have one word for you… “NO”

  • Hammersteyn

    Just shut the hell up Don. Every time you open your stinky mouth hole another XBOX gamer jumps to PC.

    • Rinceyouropinion

      I fear quite a few have jumped to their death too. Where is Foxhound?! 0-O

  • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    From his standpoint I can understand why he’s saying the One has thousands of dollars worth of value. TV networks and all this other stuff. Thing is, no one cares though, fine you want to make an all in one box, awesome stuff, but don’t turn a gaming machine in to that….gamers don’t want that.

    Lord, please pray for the souls of these sheep. And guide my pimp hand and make it strong, Lord. So that they might learn their place. Amen. – A pimp named Don

    • Argentil

      You still need your cable box/tivo etc, in addition to the console. If it could bypass needing a box at all, I would be closer to agreeing.

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        I don’t agree either but I do see how , in MS’ eyes, it seems like a lot of value for your buck

        • Argentil

          For voice-control, or real-time superbru integration? Thing is, if MS introduce these features, you will find TV providers will step up their game and integrate the features anyway (outside of expensive tech like voice and gesture control). I don’t see what features they could implement that would completely alter the way we watch television. The interactive kid’s programs are something, but I just don’t see it being worthwhile. I really see them pushing the interactive TV element. It looks like Quantum Break will largely focus on that.

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            they see this device having so much features that they view it as value, quantity over quality. non of that matters to gamers, but they are under the assumption that it matters a lot to everyone else. I can’t see the value either

          • Argentil

            Worryingly, they are selling the console as ‘future-proof’ because of the power of cloud computing – which IS actually limited by a number of factors. Realistically, they could maybe get a 5% performance gain through cloud computing with today’s technology.

            I really think they are banking everything on interactive TV. Would you imagine the hype an interactive Halo TV series might generate?

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            I can get behind that idea, they were supposed to do that with Defiance.

            They are betting a lot on the cloud like you say, but I don’t think it’s the time right now, they are to greedy and trying to get a chunk of all different markets…

  • Aussious

    Perhaps the most concerning thing about the X1 is third party devs confirming that a lot of what we saw at E3 was still not running on X1 devs kits but on Windows 7 based debug machines. With the console launching in less than 6 months time, I sense trouble ahead.
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one

  • Hof

    Prices in terms of Xbone / PS4 now and then.

    $500 of 2005 dollars would be worth:$598.80 in 2013

    $400 of 2013 dollars would be worth$334.00 in 2005

  • Martin du preez

  • Wyzak

    Wow, they really don’t know when to stop digging.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Sometimes when you carry a spade, you just can’t stop yourself. The compulsion to create holes becomes overpowering…. cough!

  • Ryanza

    When gamers think about value being over-delivered, they think about hardware making the games better. But when Microsoft says that they are over delivering on value, they are talking about Xbox Live. All the ram used to run Xbox Live, in the background while playing games, is going to effect the games in a bad way.

    Microsoft doesn’t care about the games and they don’t care about the gamers. All that Microsoft cares about is pimping you Xbox Live accounts. Online DRM and that 24 hour check into Xbox Live feature is not creating value for gamers, it’s about keeping you on Xbox Live so that corporations can sell you shit. Oh Americans can buy pizza from Pizza Hut on Xbox Live, now that’s real value for the games.

    • Argentil

      *Groan* don’t mention the adverts. Oh, Microsoft.
      On the bright side, I saw some newer footage of the Dashboard running with two tv shows side-by-side. No lag. I think the lag comes in when there is a game running in the bgd. Hopefully they can sort it all out before November.

  • Todor Doutchevitch

    Honestly, I am a lot more concerned with features than price. I don’t have an internet connection at home and therefore it would not matter to me if the PS4 came in at double the price of
    the xbone, I would still be buying it. As things worked out though, I get the
    features that I want from my gaming console, and it’s cheaper than the alternative. Bonus

  • Everyone

    Learn to write, you illiterate cunt

    • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

      Dafuq?

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      That’s uncalled for.

    • LordCaptainAwesomeness

      It is sad that firstly you would use an anonymous account like that, and secondly that you would feel insulting the author like that is the best way to get your point across.

      Where is your argument?

      If that is the best you can come up with, then why don’t you run back to your mother, and go beg her to come and sort out your mess again.

      By the way, it is only proper to end your sentences with a Full stop.

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        I suspect someone hacked his account … I’ve never seen Darth post such a comment

        • LordCaptainAwesomeness

          There is no account linked to it, this “person” merely used a handle they could think of. I highly doubt Darth would post that.

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            Ahhh I see, I see the name changed now ….. the nerve, soiling the name of other people

      • Argentil

        Maybe he hadn’t finished his sentence before hitting send.
        Learn to write, you illiterate cuntryman. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, Darth.

    • http://www.lazygamer.co Gavin Mannion

      Don is that you?

  • MacDouch

    “well prices”????