The PS4 is “the worlds best PC”

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Like most of you who suffer from debilitating injuries from years of rough sports and motorcycle accidents, I too am a man in pain. A severe case of technolust has left me with a pain that few can understand, and with the Playstation 4 being sort of revealed this year, it’s starting to flare up all over again. Especially when I hear comments about how just how damn awesome it might be.

“I think it’s a very smart move on Sony’s behalf to build this sort of enhanced PC architecture and then put so much in it,” gushed Epic Games vice president Mark Rein to CVG.

Let’s not forget it has 16 times the memory we had in PlayStation 3 – that’s not insignificant. Knowing that every machine has that, we can do crazy, ridiculous stuff with that.

The other exciting thing is that when you think about Windows, even Windows for most people is tied to about 2GB of addressable memory space. This really opens up beyond what most PCs can do, because most PCs are running a 32-bit version of Windows. It’s like giving you the world’s best PC.

As for those other touted PS4 features, such as background downloads, Rein says that they’re “super convenient”.

The kind of stuff that they announced that they’re doing, the level of convenience and things like that – they’re making a really perfect gaming PC.

I’ve always said that the things in the next-generation that aren’t just brute force hardware are all about the service and simplicity of the experience – the things that make it as fun and easy to get a PS4 game as it is to get a game on your iPad.

And Rein has a point. In this day and age, it’s first-world infuriating to plop a game into your drive and be hit with an “update required” prompt, although that’s a problem that is more prevalent on a certain other console COUGH “PS3” COUGH!

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Author:Darryn Bonthuys

Because he's the writer that Lazygamer deserves, but not the one it actually needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can't take it. Because he's not a hero. He's a loud-mouthed journalist, a watchful procrastinator. A dork knight.
  • Lardus

    Lets hope Paul Levesque survives the game this weekend. WWE is lacking a good console GAME at the moment, they can’t lose him as well!

  • Admiral Chief Erwin

    Well once the PS4 releases PCs will have passed that point again.

    Rather change statement to “worlds-best-better-than-average-but-still-damn-awesome-pc”

    • http://twitter.com/D4RKL1NG Martin du preez

      Sure PC’s would be ahead but you’ll still be playing console ports trololol

      • Admiral Chief Erwin

        BUT, using the new tech, the ports will work better. So yay for ‘better’ ports!

        • FoxOneZA

          Ermmm…how you gonna get 8gb of GDDR Ram into your PC?

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            With a shoe-horn, duh!

          • FoxOneZA

            LOLz… I wonder if AMD will sandbag on PC graphics cards performance once the next-gen gets going.

          • http://twitter.com/Techpaste Ethan Martin

            Performance isn’t a numbers game….

          • Johan du Preez

            PC dont need GDDR5 to get faster speeds than the ps4, the design of a PC and say the PS4 is totally different. The pc is faster with DDR3 1333 memory in it because it utilizes the resources differently. The name of the game is memory bandwidth and if you compare that to a pc the ps4 doesn’t even come close.

            Memory bandwidth does not indicate just system ram bandwidth but on how much data all the components working together ie CPU,GFX CARD, SYSTEM RAM. While its true that GDDR5 is insanely fast the rest of the system bottlenecks it.

        • Doe

          That’s what everyone said when they heard Dead Space was hitting PC…

    • GTO

      And two years after that we are back to where we are now. Consoles are great but I hate the whole development cycle it leads to.

    • Deon Steyn

      PC for the win, until PS5

      • Admiral Chief Erwin

        Then PCs will be ahead again.

        Wonder how the tech will advance in 5, 10, 20 years?

  • http://twitter.com/D4RKL1NG Martin du preez

    ALL shall bow before the Godstation 4′s GDDR5 RAM. Thank you Lord KAZ and Thank you Sony.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Lord Kaz did say, that he’ll deliver. All hail the new Emperor! All Hail KAZ!

    • http://www.facebook.com/rr1g0 Rigo Pinto

      pc’s have had gddr5 ram for years now

      • Doe

        PC have all these SMART tech., but they never seem to impress like the console developers do with inferior tech.!

        Why? Because they industry moves so fast that they can never master the hardware they’re working on. PC’s are essentially for rich fat kiddies with no social lives that just want to banter and brag all the time…

        P.S. Proud owner of a PRETTY SICK PC setup.

  • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

    Ps4 will surpass any and all PCs

    • Admiral Chief Erwin

      Of current age, maybe, future, methinks you wrong

      • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

        Lol just trollin, PCs will eventually overtake every console out there, obviously. I still don’t like elitism though. peace and love

        • Admiral Chief Erwin

          Remember to put :P if ye be trolling, else ye might walk the plank, arrrr

          • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

            Lol Wait I Joke I Joke I kid I kid ….. :p I still have lots I wana Live for. I want to be alive when people Love EA and Square Enix Releases a good final fantasy again

    • http://www.facebook.com/mattjohnbass Matthew John

      ha ha ha… slow down Umar. As a console gamer we all have to admit that PCs can do things consoles cant…

      • http://twitter.com/SaveTheQueenIX umar bastra

        lol just kidding though, PCs will always surpass consoles in RAW power, because its forever changing. but the strength of the consoles comes in the games released on them

      • CaptainNemo42

        Like Excel Spreadsheets?

        • Tbone187

          Strangely enough, it’s also used to create console games…Who would’ve thought…

          • CaptainNemo42

            No… Hollywood would have us believe it’s the Mac that does everything. And everything Hollywood say is pure truth.

          • Tbone187

            There’s a lot of things Hollywood would have us believe. Doesn’t mean we have to…hehe…

          • doe

            Yeah well, when it comes to Macs and PCs there’s a new master race to be sure…

        • http://twitter.com/Techpaste Ethan Martin

          Mods. Mods alone trump the console. Not to mention the sheer amount of F2P and cheaper games.

  • http://twitter.com/Technikyle TechniKyle

    Until you design a game on a Playstation, I’d avoid saying things like that…

    • Admiral Chief Erwin

      Wonder how you will code/design on a PeeEss…oh wait….:P

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=630431757 James Philip Lawrence

    still quite bummed about the price tho : /

  • http://twitter.com/Techpaste Ethan Martin

    The writer of this article is just a damn troll. I’m all up for the PS4, but you CANNOT compare a GAMING console, to a bloody machine running a 32bit OS. ANY Laptop or PC that’s designed for gaming WILL be running a 64bit OS. You’ve compared a gaming machine to a working machine and announced the console as victorious. Seriously…wtf? I love consoles, but I love the PC more and this article is just fanboy garbage.

    • http://twitter.com/D4RKL1NG Martin du preez

      Xbots are just pissed because their girlfriends,EPIC and Bungie are sleeping with the amazingly ripped black dude (PS4)

      • Admiral Chief Erwin

        That is just horrible dude, speaking out of experience :P
        Or is that a fantasy?

      • FoxOneZA

        That’s sick man.

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

    • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

      Is it fair to blast the writer of the article for reporting news on what some other guy in the industry said? The writer didn’t compare the PS4 to the PC. Epic Games’s VP did

      • http://twitter.com/D4RKL1NG Martin du preez

        Calm down bro. Darryn doesn’t have feelings.

        • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

          Lol. Poor Darryn. I’d ask how you think this makes him feel but…

      • Sir Captain Rincethis

        Well said, I would BLAST the fuck out of our friend here for jumping on Darryn, but just heard that Iain Banks is dying of cancer and only has a few months. DAY OF MOURNING DECLARED.

    • creative630

      From a developers point of view it kinda makes sense to compare against a machine running a 32bit OS. Not all gamers are technically minded and have the know how to buy/install the proper hardware or software. I’m just thinking about all the technically challenged parents and children I come across who try to provide for themselves or family. In that scenario buying a console is much more appropriate as they dont have to worry about any of that, they just buy the game and play. Simplicity has its place, just look at the amount of games on iOS vs Android.

  • Sargon

    “This really opens up beyond what most PCs can do, because most PCs are running a 32-bit version of Windows.”

    I recently completed a Steam survey on my PC which collected all my stats. At the end of the survey it gives you an option to check out the trends of the Steam PC gaming community and how you fit in with that. I have a 64-bit version of Windows and, it appears, so do over 60% of Steam users. By the time the next gen hits us, this number will likely rise. In addition, it also looks like 50% of users are already using 8Gb Ram. By the time the PS4 finally releases, PC’s of equal calibre will already have surpassed these consoles. And to be honest – a decent i7 with a 2Gb graphics card etc from a non-Incredible RipOff retail outlet won’t actually set you back the crazy amounts people suggest.

    This entire article is just about trying to sound like consoles are somehow gaining ground on the master race. Which they really really aren’t. Let’s be honest here.

    Viva la PC revolution!

    • Admiral Chief Erwin

      Viva, but, on the other hand, it was written by Darryn. And we all know that in his Bat-cave, (mind), things work differently….

    • Ultimo_Cleric_N7

      The foolish Consolers think the can compete with the powers of the master race. You have yet to know true power!!!!

    • Sargon

      I am going to assume that all downvotes for the post above are due to console lovers not understanding logic and/or reason.

      • mornelithe

        Likely, logic rarely has a place among them.

        • Kromas

          Like how a controller is better than a mouse/kb combo for FPS games :P

          • Doe

            Not likely! I think it’s only dumb people comparing PCs to consoles. It’s kinda like apples VS oranges. Comparing a PC (upgradeable) to a console (non-upgradeable) is a stupid argument, because you’re comparing two COMPLETELY different things. Of course a PC will outrun a console. You can just get the latest shit whenever it comes out! Consoles, on the contracry, DON’T work like that. But if you compare the set hardware that launches with a console compared to the hardware for PC available at a console’s launch, consoles usually have something to bargain with. Because they don’t need to cater for the masses’ different setups, they can customize their games for hardware that is universally ‘the same’, yielding superior results on an inferior technology. That’s why we sometimes see console games running on ‘inferior’ technology, being more ‘visually’ impressive than PC games running on ‘superior’ technology!

            I wish people would stop comparing these two. It’s kinda like comparing rocket fueled space-aircraft to free-energy flying saucers. I.e., there AIN’T NO COMPARISON!!!

          • Kromas

            To be fair its not that bad. Its more like comparing a bike to a car. Both use an engine and runs on the same fuel but that’s where it ends. It comes down to marketing (in the case of Bungie) or penis envy (in the case of many gamers). I believe both platforms have merit but then again BOW DOWN TO YOUR PC GODS YOU CONSOLE MORTALS! Also don’t throw the term upgradable around loosely. Consoles have been able to be upgraded even in our current generation even if it is just miner upgrades. .

          • mornelithe

            Yeah, let me know when you need aim assist on PC.

    • mornelithe

      I’ve been running Windows 64 for years, I think Mark Rein forgot that all it requires is an 8800 GPU or higher.

  • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

    I have a rant about making poor statements but it’s just not worth it.

    Needless to say the guy is creating a false impression on what PC’s are capable of to try and hype the PS4 beyond what it actually is. It’s a great piece of hardware but it’s not really groundbreaking.

    Most gamers also run 64bit windows which allows up to 4GB of addressable memory just like the PS4 will.

    • http://twitter.com/Techpaste Ethan Martin

      64bit OS allowed UNLIMITED memory.

      • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

        Unfortunately they don’t allow unlimited space:

        http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28VS.85%29.aspx#memory_limits

        And the point of the RAM statement is addressable RAM. This is very different from the amount of physical RAM you can shove in a machine. This is what the system can address at any given time. 64Bit systems have a limit of 4GB (there is an equation for that but I can’t recall it right now)

        • Admiral Chief Erwin

          LOL, rants-a-lot on a RANTpage, get it?

        • Andrew Graaff

          You can address 4Gb with 32 bits. Take out your calculator can enter “2 power 32″. You get get just over 4 billion bytes. Now the operating system will use some for kernel space and some for user space. With 64 bits there is no limit you are going to hit in terms of addressable memory. It is about 16 trillion Gb of memory.

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            Wasn’t it something closer to 16 exabytes? Either way, the point I was simply trying to make is that it’s not unlimited and yes a 64bit system is virtually limitless. However, the OS itself is still restricted. The statement of 64bit OS being unlimited is factually incorrect.
            64bit is capable of huge address sizes. 64bit OS’s however have limits. That’s all I was trying to point out :)

          • Doe

            I’m feeling pretty dumb now. So hardware wise, anything 64-Bit can address more than 4gbs of memory, but our current 64-Bit Windows OS only lets us address 4gbs of memory (even though you might have more than that because your hardware supports it)? Is this correct?

            What is the point then of having more than 4gbs of memory (which your hardware supports) but not being able to address more than 4 (because your software doesn’t support it)?

          • Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew

            Ok let’s put it this way:

            64bit hardware is capable of handling huge amounts of memory at any given moment because it’s 64 bit. The more you increase your bits, the more memory can effectively be handled.

            A PC works in 1 and 0′s. So everything is to the power of 2.

            Check this table: http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/computer/powers-of-2.htm

            There you will see that 64 to the power of 2 is absolutely huge. That’s the theoretical amount of 1′s and 0′s a 64 bit machine could handle.

            That being said, hardware will limit the amount of memory that can be handled due to a number of reasons. Bandwidth availability being the most limiting factor.

            It’s like this:

            Let’s say you have an ocean. But it’s currently empty. But there is a river that can feed it water from some or other huge reserve of water.

            Technically the ocean could take all of it at once. However, the river feeding it can only handle so much water at any given time. So the ocean is fed in smaller chunks at a time.

            This is pretty much the same kind of thing. The hardware could theoretically handle the amount of memory at any time but because of physical limitations and a human’s capability of writing code to handle that amount of memory, it simply isn’t going to happen. Thus the limitations.

            That’s the easiest way to explain it without getting overly technical.

          • Admiral Chief Erwin

            16 trillion eh? Pfff, in africa, we be havin it!

        • Andrew Graaff

          The link shows the addressable memory for Windows on x86 and x64 versions of Windows. x86 is a 32bit instruction set and is superseded by x64 i.e. Intel and AMD cpus contain both instruction sets. The document suggests the 64 bit version of Windows is limited to 512Gb of total memory, 2Gb per process. But these are operating system limitations not addressable space limitations.

      • FoxOneZA

        The returns are not “Unlimited”

  • Admiral Chief Erwin

    I hope that the type of games now designed for PeeEss will allow them to play less “dumbed down” games. With all respect said this.

    I know there are limitations on the current EggsBawks and PeeEss, BUT, with the new major beefed versions coming out, I really hope the devs branch out the minds and the gameplay style.

    What I’m getting at, is that they make more thinky-think games, non linear, moar depth and all that jazz. It might sound like a pipe dream, but the current console generation gaming (I’m generalizing a bit here, so bear with me), is breeding a generation of idiots.

    I use the term idiot loosely, but think about it: Only a few games these days have real depth.

    Just a thought

  • FoxOneZA

    The perfect gaming PC costs at least R15000. Sure Sony will subsidise the price of the PS4 but will they hike the price of games?

  • Tbone187

    You can argue till you’re blue in the face but Dedicated hardware and minimal OS requirements will always give consoles an edge…Pound for pound , a console will have the upper hand but PCs are expandable and there aint gonna be any 6gb Titan GPU for a console in the foreseeable future…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Carl-Angus/685100819 Carl Angus

    I think because the PS4 is using cheaper and more readily available PC architechure they’ll get a nice discount from hardware suppliers, also saying that they intend to be kicking out 16 mil of these consoles off the bat gives they even greater bargaining power. So I think the cost on day one will be quite comparable to PS3 launch prices.

    Also, even today I’m in awe at what they are still able to do with the peewee spec PS3, Imagine the possibilities of the PS4… it’s gonna be like Jesus-Raptor-Cavalry levels of awesomeness, with a heavy dollop of ZOMG, all wrapped-up in a blanket of WTF-Amazing.

  • HvR

    *Must rip on console owners*
    *Must troll Sony fanboys*
    *But PS4 now PC ??!!!???*
    *CAN NOT RIP ON PC !!!!!!*
    Aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ……………………… THE MINDF^&K PAIN!!!!!!

  • D Luggah

    Epic surprisingly saying good things about the brand playstation that was a surprise for my ears, I thought they were just xbox fanboys at the beginning of current gen. Or was that just cliff blezinski or whatever his last name was. I hope the ps4 can perform good hearing a lot of positive feed back from developers. It’s a pity PC gamers whom are meant to be the different class of gamers have such childish comments. everyone knows PC is always going to be better then consoles its been like that for the last 15 years.

    PC gamers you are meant to be higher class of gamer with tech at your disposal?
    Not a higher class of ass hole!

    • Doe

      Higher class hardware, but lower class games. That’s for sure!

      And everything gets made with console in mind because they know that the Master race is only a MINORITY!!!

      So you have all this specced up hardware but you need to play dumbed down ports. Essentially they’re just raping rich kids and parents of their money…

      • D Luggah

        They are raping kids and parents for their money ? Consoles owners or PC ?

  • D Luggah

    What master race that is the stupidest thing I heard, adolescent adolf hitler referred to his nazi Arian soldiers as the master race. Description tall blonde haired blue eyed German and don’t like Jews.

    So the guys in this blog referring themselves as a part of the master race.

    So I guess your all nazi pricks

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