Why choose between an Xbox One and PlayStation 4, when you could choose a PC instead? That’s the sentiment of the pc-centric graphics chipmaker that’s not not powering any of the new consoles, because of course it is. Yes, Nvidia says that Pc’s are “far superior” to consoles.
That’s according to Nvidia’s consumer sales manager Matt Wright, who says that Pc gaming is the best – but it might take a little arm-twisting to convince console gamers.
“We are proposing small form-factor PCs to be a viable alternative to the next-gen consoles. Enthusiast players want the ultimate games system and that is the PC. The PC platform is far superior to any console when it comes to gaming, plus you get all the extra functionality that a computer brings.”
They want to try and remove the technical hurdles intrinsic to PC gaming, and make it a simpler, easier experience – something that Steam goes a long way in doing.
“We want to make PC gaming as simple as possible and we think that it already becoming much more relevant and appealing to casual gamers,”
“Steam now has more users than Xbox Live,” Wright concluded. “There is a whole new generation who grew up playing on PC with titles like Minecraft or World of Tanks. There’s a huge community who love playing their games on PC.”
Of course, PC is the superior platform – depending on gamers’ needs, knowledge and propensity for tinkering. Some people just prefer console gaming, and don’t give a damn about resolutions, framerates or mods. And that’s ok. Still, whenever I hear about Nvidia trumpeting the benefits of Pc gaming, I can help but think it’s all a bit of sour grapes.
Last Updated: December 2, 2013
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:18
Header win!
JHN
December 2, 2013 at 09:24
I wont deny that PC’s are better than consoles, but the constant upgrading and knowledge necessary just puts me off.
Uberutang
December 2, 2013 at 09:27
I run 4-5 year upgrade cycles. And if you can read you can support/build a PC.
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:27
Amen to your first, double Amen to your second
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:29
With everything now colour-coded & only plugging in one way around it’s easier to build a PC than a Star Wars Lego set.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:29
If only the Death Star had such instructions we’d all be doomed.
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:31
That being said, got a V19-Torrent SW Lego last year for my bday, spent a few hours building it, so much epicness, gears and stuff. Love it
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:32
Whoever bought you that is simply the coolest
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:32
My wife, hehehe.
I’m easy to gift for, really am, JUST BUY ME STAR WARS THINGS
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:33
Any Star Wars gift will probably also please me. Including a certain costume. 😉
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:35
I hope you shave your legs if you’re wearing the gold bikini.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:37
Have to. Real problem comes in with my chest though.
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:43
But you’ve got the eyes covered *RUNS
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:48
*Wipes black tear from side of face.*
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:59
Dab, don’t wipe. You’ll ruin your foundation.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:00
Hey! This is going too far!!! Where’s Tim?! I need some backup here!
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 10:37
O_O
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:38
He would know
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:38
Imagine a Star Wars themed motherboard. Like those sniper ones? Just star wars look and feel. EPICNESS
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:41
I want Boba’s ship.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:42
Slave I
Sageville
December 2, 2013 at 11:17
My favourite Star Wars ship, Fett is maximum awesomeness!
Sageville
December 2, 2013 at 11:16
General Grievous Statue FTW!
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:33
Lego set, 7674. Check it out
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:34
Wowie
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:29
I think most of us run a 4-5 year upgrade cycle. No need for overkill.
Devourer of Small Bunnies
December 2, 2013 at 10:25
Testify
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 11:57
dude, that is higher grade maths for most consolers 😉
iAmWeasel
December 2, 2013 at 16:26
I used to be into PC gaming for over 20 years. I disagree with you.. the reality for your average person is not as rosy as that sounds. With my budget, I always ended up having to upgrade within 3 years maximum. Yes if you spend 15k on a monster rig then you will be fine for 5 years, but most people can’t spend that kind of money. Also, being able to build and support a PC can be simple, but it does tend to bring a lot more work and hassle with it. Also components tend to break frequently in PCs.
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:27
“constant upgrading”
NO, NO and NO again.
Why am I always hearing this excuse of upgrading?
NO dude, just NO.
You guys make it sound like you have to fork out a grand every month or two just to keep your PC running.
NO.
(sorry, not directing this at you, but at all)
Sure, you can keep on spending, but that is overkill.
Yes I agree that us master race folk have the superior knowledge, but still, it’s not rocket science
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:30
But, what are you trying to say?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:31
We’ll send you a manual on Master Race language. Might throw in a free dictionary too.
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:33
Stat!
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:32
That PC runs this well:
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/ab5gwRX_460sa.gif
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:35
Lol. He’s trying to say that this stigma that a PC needs to be upgraded every 6 – 12 months is nonsense.
A pc can last a good solid 5 years with no upgrades if one really wants. It’s just the enthusiasts that need to upgrade every 12 months to keep playing on ultra.
Ultra on PC doesn’t scale the same as on consoles. What is ultra on consoles now stays the same for a couple of years until devs get used to the consoles and then the fedility slowly increases.
On PC games that same thing happens much, much faster. So people tend to think to keep up you need to constantly have the best. But it’s a fallacy. If you can run ultra now, you will be able to run medium in 5 years because medium in 5 years will be what ultra was.
So you can even last to the 8 year mark if you are ok enough to not have to always play on ultra and your games will still look great.
So in short he tried to say: It’s untrue that you need to upgrade your PC every few months like some people believe
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:40
I got that 😉
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:41
Oh! You were being sarcastic! DOH! Sorry bro. I’m in super “take everything at face value” mode today.
ie: Sarcasm is so not going to work on me today so perhaps I should avoid comments in case I make myself look like a boob lol
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:42
Ohhh, this could be fun 😉
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:42
Nooooooooooo!
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:46
Ag, I don’t think we should troll him in this AT ALL.
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:47
Would I?!
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:54
Why thank you John
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:56
Sarcasm 😉
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:59
DOH!
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:58
No need to apologise. I talk to him like he’s missed the point all the time, usually because he has. *run*
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:03
Actually, with the new technology the Ultra today is Very High in 3 years. The technology jump is not that big like it was 3 years ago.
I am running a 5750 and I am playing AC4 on medium/high
Mark Treloar
December 2, 2013 at 09:57
Money spent on upgrades that equal or better new gen consoles in the last 2 years: R3000. Purchase of a new console: R6000 plus
Skyblue
December 2, 2013 at 10:04
You tell ’em Admiral Chief!
iAmWeasel
December 2, 2013 at 16:32
Wahaha.. “us master race folk have the superior knowledge”. This is the number 1 reason why PC gamers are disliked. You guys think you have such special mad skillz because you know how to plug a GPU into a mobo. My one mate’s 5 year old son recently built a PC with very little help – it’s really not all that skillful.
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 3, 2013 at 06:19
Right, so you are saying to me 5 year old PC folk have superior intellect to fully grown adult console gamers?
Heh, thanks for clearing that up for us 😉
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:27
The guys in the pc stores have the knowledge if you don’t. And we don’t constantly upgrade. Hell, I might upgrade something once every four years.
SaintsRowNigri
December 2, 2013 at 09:40
As does the amount of games available on PC Vs Console.
JHN
December 2, 2013 at 09:41
Also a valid point
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:41
Meh. I find it rather evenly balanced actually CC @bca976a3b2f582290cd921c5fef0e4c2:disqus
SaintsRowNigri
December 2, 2013 at 10:18
Played any GTA V recently? Just trolling. But no, I found PC’s lack of fighting games to be a bit of a downer, really. As well as some other exclusives like Gears of War 2 and 3…
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 10:30
Yeah there is that exclusivity. But the same can be said the other way round. A lot of games on PC that aren’t on console. So it balances out.
There is always a balance to the force 😛
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:37
Like the over 1000 strategy games.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 10:44
hahahaha
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 10:45
theyr all there, just not as prevelant, fighters are mostly a console genre.
if it really matters to someone, then they will consider it when choosing what platform to buy.
Uberutang
December 2, 2013 at 11:50
Same can be said about console games.
No simulation games. No ‘good’ rts games. No free MMO’s.No free coop shooters. No mods. No steam sales…
Sure there are a few cracker console exclusives, but do an uncharted game warrant the price of a HD tv and console + game? Not for me.
When consoles can run games like Red Orchestra2 or Arma3, then I might be interested, but sadly games on console is almost always dumbed down to the point of ‘press a to win’
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:05
Console does not have Starcraft 2 or any awesome strategy game, some AWESOME indie games on steam.
Anyway, GTA V will come out on PC ;-)~
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 10:43
when you consider the savings in game costs, even with a more expensive rig, you’ll still probably end up saving, cus no PC game ever costs R699 unless its a collectors.
plus Steam / Origin sales.
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:11
LOL i have been saying this everytime a console fanboy tunes me about my PC and upgrading costs 😉
“If you buy 1 game a month for PC then you save at least R200 vs the console version (WITHOUT STEAM SALES), that is R2400 per year. Save that for 3 years and you can upgrade your PC and still win” 😉
My argument always win even if they say you can trade in games. Which wont work for the new consoles apparently…
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:27
I’m tired of this. It always depends on what you’re looking for that determines which platform is better. And Nvidia, you & all your PC cronies had there chance YEARS ago to develop small-factor PCs to compete with consoles & you did nothing because you were all convinced PC gaming was dying. Guess what – still alive & kicking.
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:28
WOOOOT
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:33
*Their.
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:34
already fixed 😛
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:35
By the time the console picks it up, the pc’s already fixed it.
Boom!
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:36
LOLLLLLL.
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:37
See above 😛
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:40
You can keep your filthy fixes!!!
(except if you’ve got an Xbone, then you probably need it)
Trolololo
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:40
BWAHAHAHHA! 🙂
RyseandRepeat
December 2, 2013 at 09:37
For keeps sake.
prieye
December 2, 2013 at 10:12
Consoles run x86. Nvidia doesn’t have one. Small PC run on x86 and Intel isn’t granted Nvidia one. Guess who had x86 + GPU + APU ip that can be used to built a small PC and it can be cross-platform with gaming consoles?
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:31
Thank you captain obvious nVidia.
I am a PC player and I cringe when things like this are spewed by big players like nVidia. It gives us a bad rap and makes us sound like douche bags.
If they really want to prove that PC gaming is better and to simplify PC gaming like they want to, then they need to lower the cost of GFX for PC’s.
Honestly that is the biggest hurdle in gaming on PC. Overcome that problem and PC gaming will be fantastic.
Mix in things like Steam and SteamOS and PC gaming becomes gold.
Alien Emperor Trevor
December 2, 2013 at 09:39
I’d hate to think how much Nvidia would be charging if ATI/AMD weren’t around.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:39
That’s easy to picture. Look at Telkom and what they are like because they have no competition
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:49
With EA’s service levels.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:53
Loooooool
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 10:36
you say it like EA is actually worse than Telkom
No one is worse than Telkom.
“here we upgraded you to 4mb, but lol, you cant sync higher than 3mb cus we fkuced up your exchange again, would you like to go to 6mb? trololol”
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:38
I’ve had better service at Telkom than EA to date. So, for me, that actually holds true.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 10:57
i dont quite understand that, after sale, the need for a service is severely limited.
and even EAs Origin platform is working REALLY well now, they have local hosting, the feel when your 26gb game downloads at 1.5mb/s on a 4mb line is amazing.
plus the specials that were on during black friday
ermagurd, EA earned like 10 points in my books, after their shitty run over the last couple of years.
as telkom is an infrastructure and service provider, with no competition, they dont feel the need to provide a good service or upgrade the existing infrastructure.
telkom could have done this exact line change the last time they upgraded the lines, they havent upgraded any of the infrastructure, and just sorta decided “yeah, maybe we should let them have respectable internet now”
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 10:40
we’re not douchebags, we’re right.
its not our fault that console players are stubborn and butthurt.
but yeah, we dont need nVidia to tell us that.
cheaper GFX would be usefull, I want the R1500 graphics card to not suck again, cards like the 550ti and AMD 5770 used to be great, and didnt cost an arm and a leg to buy.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:43
heh. Butthurt
ElimiNathan
December 2, 2013 at 09:32
“Some people just prefer console gaming, and don’t give a damn about resolutions, framerates or mods.” That’s because they haven’t gamed on a proper PC yet 😀
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:13
lol but they are bitching about it now on the new consoles. TROLOLOLOLOL.
Now all of a sudden, graphics and res are important … .TROLOLOLOL 🙂
ElimiNathan
December 2, 2013 at 12:14
Boom exactly
Skyblue
December 2, 2013 at 09:35
Saw a friend rocking his new i7, 780, 16gb ram combo this weekend running BF4 maxed and it sure was purdy. Next-gen is already behind.
SaintsRowNigri
December 2, 2013 at 09:38
And what did all that cost him, pray tell?
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 09:42
more than enough son
more than i can say
enough to keep you counting till your dying day.
but really, an i7 and 780 is overkill.
i got an AMD 7850 the otherday and ermagurd, so perty
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:49
Die smiling at least.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 11:17
aye, wasnt saying it as a bad thing, overkill is not a bad thing, was just saiyan’
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 11:21
I be agreein’
Yo
Admiral Chief of Souls
December 2, 2013 at 09:51
Got my 7870oc last year, and I’m set for quite some time
Skyblue
December 2, 2013 at 09:52
It cost a whack but he only spends the cash every 4 or 5yrs. I generally stick to the 2 to 3yr cycle so it works out cheaper. It’s important to realise that for some people their PC’s are the HUB to their households. I use mine over my consoles 90% of the time, use a multiple monitor setup, stream video and data to various rooms, host all my data and download almost exclusively through one supercharged device.
It costs more but it can do more.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:53
Agreed. My house runs on my pc.
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:15
If he got a job and can afford it.. who cares. Its like people buying a BMW vs VW CITI Golf.
Both can take you from A to B
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:52
Ok, so who has a budget of 2x the price of a PS4.
The purpose? I will purchase a PS4 and then a PC costing the same.
I will run them side by side and compare titles over the course of the next couple of years. I will see how the PS4 scales graphics wise and whether the PC will be able to match at least the same graphic fidelity as the PS4 over that same period without any additional upgrades.
There are a few things that need to be made known:
1) A screen/tv will not be bought for either as we accept that you already have a screen because most people don’t buy a new screen with every upgrade.
2) A mouse and keyboard will not be bought as that is already there from the previous PC.
3) Only the tower with it’s internals will be purchased for the PC
4) For the PS4 an extra controller (if bought) will not be included in the cost analasys to make it fair as extra peripherals will not be purchased for the PC.
5) For the purposes of life span costs any replacements/repairs will be included in the running costs after purchase to compare life cycle costs of each.
6) Game costs will be included in the life span costs to see how much is saved/lost with game purchase price discrepancies between platforms.
Then after a few years we can conclude which is best in the long run for gaming.
Right. So who is gonna sponsor me?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:55
If you use a pc at home for other purposes as well, needing one along with a console, then those are beneficial costs that need to be deducted from the price of the pc, since you won’t need anything additionally.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 09:58
Yes those can be calculated as well. Or perhaps for the purpose of this exercise we dedicate both platforms to purely gaming and nothing else?
But yeah, I’m sure something can be worked out if need to for beneficial features that both are missing, however, I do feel that could take away from the main point of the exercise and skew the results. So perhaps the purely gaming feature is the best bet?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 09:59
Purely gaming it is. Do not forget the cost per game for, say, ten titles?
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 10:00
that was point #6. Game costs will be included in life span costs as it does affect overall spend that HAS to be spent by both parties
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:02
Haha. Sorry, completely overlooked it somehow.
Steam Sales HAVE to be bought, so that brings in a quantity issue 😉
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 10:05
No worries. We need to get this experiment just right. So emphasizing on specifics is needed to make sure we get it just right. Still waiting for someone to say they’ll sponsor me for it though. Lol
Sageville
December 2, 2013 at 11:26
I’d dig to see the end results, and no I will not sponsor you!
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 11:29
Darnit!
Skyblue
December 2, 2013 at 09:57
LOL! I’d imagine the savings on games alone will more than compensate for the additional hardware costs and by a large margin.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 10:06
Well that is the assumption yes. So I’d like to try and prove it 🙂
Lourens Jordaan
December 6, 2013 at 12:58
I really cannot decide whether to give you an up vote or a down vote so take a comment instead.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 11:05
i dont think a R6500 pc would last against a ps4
would need atleast another R1000 to get a decent GPU in there.
but with that, it would make a decent experiment.
will be interesting when they get the hang of coding for the ps4.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 11:12
Agreed. 7.5k is where you’ll get a nice PS4-level pc.
Sageville
December 2, 2013 at 11:25
For this experiment, you’d have to keep to the R6500 pricepoint.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 11:39
You’d be surprised.
For the purposes of this experiment remember the following:
We are not going top range here. We are going for a mid-range everything to hit the R6500 mark except maybe for the GFX where the price can go up a bit.
Very basic chasis, mid range mobo/CPU and 8GB of DDR3 1333 RAM.
a GTX660 or similiar card (shop around and do research on best that fits X-Budget.
I reckon you’d be able to put together a PC that can perform as well and perhaps a touch better than the PS4 at R6500. But of course I can’t prove that as I don’t have the funds *cries*
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 11:59
My pc is in that price range, maybe just a bit more with my graphics card, butstick a ati 7770 in there and the rest of my rig is pretty much spot on the money.
went for AMD instead of intel, so I saved like R2000 there.
So I would really be that surprised, since its what im doing now.
but a card like a 7770 wouldnt last, atleast compared to a ps4.
buy yourself a ps4 and we can share notes 😛
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:07
Hehe.
I’d rather go for nVidia (Budget allowing) as they have a slightly longer life-span when it comes to keeping up.
Either way I still think it would be a cool comparison to do 🙂
Kromas
December 2, 2013 at 12:16
Yeah I think AMD has NVidia beat with its new R9 series.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:23
That depends on your definition of beat.
The only one that is actually good is the flagship R9 290x. It’s the only one of the 3 that actually is running the new chipset fully. It also runs at 90degrees C. Now yes, they said that it’s meant to but that’s some crazy ambient temps being released inside your machine.
The other 2. The 280x and 270x match rather evenly with other nVidia cards in the same price range.
So while the 290x is a killer card that performs the same as a Titan for a smaller price it’s not something I’d go with because of the temps (also I don’t do the whole top range gfx stuff anyway. I see it as a waste of cash). That being said the 780ti beats both and is much better priced than a titan.
Either way, the point is not high end cards anyway. The point of the experiment is to get a pc in as close to the R6500 mark as possible to compare
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 12:29
keep in mind that everything AMD/ATI runs hot.
my CPU runs 30 degrees hotter than the intel cards, and my feet have definitely noticed a temperature increase since i put my 7850 in.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:32
Yeah that bugs me a lot. Don’t like a lot of heat lol
Kromas
December 2, 2013 at 12:40
I run a R9290X and it caps at 81 degrees playing metro last light. But I agree with the rest of your statements.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:45
Can’t say I’m not a little jealous. I’d have to be a liar then. Must be a kick ass card. Still wouldn’t be able to justify spending that much on a card though. But to each their own.
I do understand what it feels like to be able to pump a game on to max settings and have it just run great
Kromas
December 2, 2013 at 12:46
Yeah everyone is getting socks for x-mas. 😛
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:55
hahahahaha.
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 12:27
i dunno, ive never been able to decide.
I used to like the nvidia drivers, but lately, when you check in control panel, they look about as bad as the ATI ones used to, and compared to the bang for your buck you get from ATI, i really cant justify paying R500 more for a similarly specced card, just to satisfy brand pride.
i bought an ati 5770 in 2010 for R1500, then a 550ti in 2012 for R1500, gave the 5770 to a friend, and he was getting better performance out of the newer games, than the 550ti that i replaced it with.
tbh, i think it has more to do with the individual card than what brand it is.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 12:32
Fair point. The one problem with nVidia is that their cards below the R1500 are generally crappy.
R2000 is where the nVidia cards start working well and because of the CUDA cores and stuff they generally are able to hold their ground longer when it comes to “aging”.
But as you said, individual card not brand. When you have RX-budget, do research. See what cards you can afford and go searching for comparisons and benchmarks to see which of the ones you can afford come out on top.
That’s why I bought the 560Ti when I did my upgrade. At that moment it was the strongest R2500 card about. That was because of comparison benchmark charts I went and searched for. Had an AMD card been doing better at that price point then I probably would have had an AMD card
loftie
December 2, 2013 at 15:00
Should’ve gone for a 560. The 550 would be very average, for gaming always try get the “60” or up in the nvidia range (I am not too sure on the ATI cards). 560, 570 or 580 etc. The 550, 540, 530 or lower in that range etc would be for the less enthusiastic gamer. 🙂
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 16:01
i totally agree, but budget is budget.
the 560s were around the R2000+ mark, usually the difference in price between the 560 and 550 series wasnt that much, but the 550ti was on special for R1500, so i grabbed it while i had the chance.
if i had the cash money, i would have gone 560ti in a heartbeat, those cards were evil.
tbh the improvement i had at the time was great, going from medium bf3 settings to high-ultra was the business.
but in hind sight, swapping out the 5770 was a mistake. if i had my way when i first built the pc, i would have gone for the 5850 instead.
the ati cards are very similar with their numbers.
the x700 cards are comparable to the nvidia x50 cards
the x800 cards are comparable to the nvidia x60 cards
and the x900 cards are comparable to the x70 or x80 cards.
the ati cards offer a bit more options in terms of range when you get into the smaller numbers. the xx50 cards are the standards, but when you start getting to the x870 or x970 cards, the performance boost isnt much different, they are cards mostly aimed at those who like overclocking, similar to the higher nvidia cards, but ive never been a fan of voiding my warranty.
BeatzByChrisBrown
December 2, 2013 at 13:39
You forgot to factor in the monthly cost for online play as will as the bat shit insane cost of console games (Angry Birds anyone?).
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 13:52
That could be looked in to as well
Joe Black
December 2, 2013 at 10:00
They also just announced that Android is the future of gaming. So what do they want? PCs running Android?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:03
Linux FTW
Lourens Jordaan
December 6, 2013 at 12:52
I’ll buy that.
Joe Black
December 15, 2013 at 00:21
Nah… I’ll stick with the guys that have the most experience for a bit longer.
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
December 2, 2013 at 10:34
Who gives a shit about casual gamers?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:37
Casual gamers. AKA. Not gamers.
Mighty Meh
December 2, 2013 at 10:42
The grammar nazi in me is getting a mild hernia from the cod.casting.com advert on the right.
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:43
I think the correct wording it Grammar Pedantry Syndrome. Muggle.
Mighty Meh
December 2, 2013 at 10:46
My bad, I’m new to this. Will you be my guide?
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 10:46
Hahaha. Nice.
Mighty Meh
December 2, 2013 at 10:50
Although it hurts me to point this out to the Master but I think the correct wording “is” Grammar Pedantry Syndrome. **Avoids eye contact
John's (JJ's) finest excuse
December 2, 2013 at 11:05
Saw that one too late. Dammit. *fixed.
Call it even.
Sir Rants-a-Lot Llew
December 2, 2013 at 11:33
It’s terrible! “Think your good”….. Think your good what?
Think your bad nature is enough?
Think your mom insulting abilities are good enough?
CoD adverts for CoD players
Maxiviper117
December 2, 2013 at 11:10
For those of you who say the Oculus rift is stupid and doesn’t work. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INDKNA7kXoo#t=410
Matthew Holliday
December 2, 2013 at 11:32
best vid ive seen in a while
thankyou for this
geelslang
December 2, 2013 at 13:21
Development kits are available at 300us a pop. Its very tempting.
Uberutang
December 2, 2013 at 11:50
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1863785/Jargonhead_400.jpeg
Uberutang
December 2, 2013 at 11:56
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1863889/PC_Evangelist_400.jpeg
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 12:18
Geoffrey, then please explain to me why do people bitch about XBOX ONE’s 720p if it is not a problem?
Why do the console gaming community compare graphics quality between the consoles then?
*facepalm* I really do not get this world …. sigh
Buying a PC is like buying a car. You can have an audi and enjoy the comfort and the ride and pay a lot of money for it or you can buy a VW Citi golf and save money and still get from point a to b but not having a smooth ride but still enjoyable 😉
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
December 2, 2013 at 16:18
The people bitching make up such a small subset of console gamers; it’s the enthusiast pres that cares. Most console gamers could not give two shits about the differences ebtween 720p, or 900p
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2013 at 16:23
http://i.minus.com/iRGZnZMGtPIBI.gif Lol I care! PS4 PS4 PS4 😛
ToshZA
December 2, 2013 at 13:07
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7905034752/h869D55D6/
Willem Swanepoel
December 2, 2013 at 13:40
Hahahaha
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
December 2, 2013 at 16:24
LMAO!
Guest
December 2, 2013 at 14:51
Yes, PC does have the better graphics and performance, but I switched to a console because of convenience.
Sometimes after a long day of work, I just want to plop down on the couch and start gaming on my 60 inch TV.
After a few button presses on the controller, I’m already in a game.
A PC does not allow me to do this. My rig is not in my TV room and it is too big and noisy fit in it anyway.
It is also not solely used for gaming.
Sometimes I want to play some co-op Minecraft with my daughter or some co-op Gears with my wife.
A PC does not allow me to do this either (at least not easily).
TL;DR: I’ll sacrifice better graphics and performance of a PC for convenience and the ability to game with my family 😉
Vicar In Ubuntu
December 3, 2013 at 03:58
Consoles just work, you don’t have to mess with anything or update drivers. You just start it up and go.
*downloads mandatory firmware update, then a game patch on top of that, download hangs due to traffic*
You never have crashes or anything like that
*plays BF4 for 5 min, crashes to launch screen*
They just work!
*firmware update bricks console*
Random Jack
December 3, 2013 at 12:14
so the master race doesnt have anything to say to this dudes comment?
makes sense actually. they usually only have something snarky to say to people they know they can win an argument with. this dude just shot down all your arguments.
edit: oops. meant to reply to this comment.
64bit
December 3, 2013 at 08:04
Nvidia doesnt have a chip in the new consoles…
Lourens Jordaan
December 6, 2013 at 12:47
Jip, the only chip they have is the one on their shoulders.
Random Jack
December 3, 2013 at 12:12
so the master race doesnt have anything to say to this dudes comment?
makes sense actually. they usually only have something snarky to say to people they know they can win an argument with. this dude just shot down all your arguments.
Ryumoau
December 3, 2013 at 17:38
Gotta love those master race elitists who are butthurt that all the attention has been on consoles for the last couple months. And it will continue to be as long as consoles remain cheaper and more convenient than gaming PCs.