It took six months to take SimCity Offline 
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Geoffrey Tim
January 15, 2014 at 10:30 am

SimShitty

Maxis has done a big 180 degree turnaround, and has announced it’lll finally be adding the much requested, previously impossible-to-implement offline mode to city builder SimCity. In a new update, lead game engineer Simon Fox has said in a new blog post that implementing offline wasn’t as easy as flipping a switch.

“Lucy Bradshaw once said that offline wouldn’t be possible ‘without a significant amount of engineering work’, and she was right,” said Fox. “By the time we’re finished we will have spent over 6 ½ months working to write and rewrite core parts of the game to get this to work. Even things that seem trivial, like the way that cities are saved and loaded, had to be completely reworked in order to make this feature function correctly.

“I wish it were as simple as flipping a switch and telling the game to communicate with a dummy client rather than our server, but it’s more than that. Entire calculations had to be rewritten in order to make the game function correctly.”

SimCity, he says, was originally written to rely on magical cloud servers to keep the simulation, and that making all of that happen locally requires quite a bit of work.

“This meant rewriting the entire system, which previously existed in Java, and putting it into C++,” he further explained. “We’ve had to knock out the internet pipe stuff. There’s lots of code that hits the servers looking for information. We’ve had to write a lot of code to produce that data locally, specifically for region information.

“Now, all of the regional simulation needs to be done locally. The algorithms governing trading between cities needed to be retuned in order to make the behavior between cities more responsive for this type of play. This in itself required major optimizations in order to run the simulation locally. We have an obligation to make the game fun and functional on all specs of machines. We wouldn’t want someone who was enjoying the Multiplayer game to find the Single Player game crippled due to poor optimization.

“We had to remove parts of the game for it to function properly as well. This means removing lots of code integral to Multiplayer include code and UI supporting Trading, Social Features, Global Market, Leaderboards and Achievements. And, all without crippling the Multiplayer game.”

Maxis has routinely said that EA did not force the online requirement, and that it has nothing to do with DRM – and that may be the case. they clearly had a vision for the game and its scope – even if that vision has really bitten them in the ass. They greatly underestimated how many people like playing games offline, alone, without all that social nonsense that gamers are being force-fed all the time.

I'm old, grumpy and more than just a little cynical. One day, I found myself in possession of a NES, and a copy of Super Mario Bros 3. It was that game that made me realise that games were more than just toys to idly while away time - they were capable of being masterpieces. I'm here now, looking for more of those masterpieces.

  • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

    All the tears and suffering of changing that code could have been avoided
    #JustSaying

    • That Tall Twit Norm

      #Word

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      lol, they tried to pull the wool over our eyes. It’s all an illusion. A ruse!

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        Whahahhahahaha

  • Admiral Chief in Vegas
  • Hammersteyn

    Good!!! All they had to do is ask people if they wanted SP or just MP. It’s their own damn fault. Forcing people to play it their way bit them in the ass. Now let’s see what they intend to fuck up next. Personally I am as content as a cucumber to wait for a proper sequel. Not this patched tiny town shit that can’t be expanded bigger than most towns in the Northern Cape and don’t tell me to mod the damn game!

  • General JJ Raven (John)

    Six months. Oh wow. So terrible.
    To think if only the game came out six months later it could’ve sold twice as well.
    Huge sacrifice, clearly.

    • RinceThis2014

      And I could have still not bought it.

      • General JJ Raven (John)

        I bought it at release. BUT. I got Dead Space 3 for free with it.

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          Talk about a cloud with a silver-ish lining.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            “ish” being the main bit there.
            Dead Space 3 was not on the same level of the two games before it. Co-op was fun though. Made it worth it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            I still need to play the first two. Sigh.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            First one is great. Second one is scary as hell, simply because you keep running out of ammo. Third one is meh. Feels too arcady.

          • RockMossel2014

            I started playing Dead Space 1 the other day. Very cool game, but the mouse movement is just horrific! Serious lag. Apparently I need to untick vsync to make it better. Did you play it with kb+m or controller?

        • RinceThis2014

          Damn you for not being on Xbox, DS3 is fun coop (though shouldn’t be called Dead Space!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Agreed. Damn me. I’m played with a friend, but then we got other games and DS3 got left behind.
            Might buy an xbox because they’re so cheap now.
            LOL. Just kidding.

          • RinceThis2014

            I love the scenes when y are floating in space, brilliantly done with amazing backgrounds!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            We were doing that and we actually couldn’t find each other for like ten minutes.

          • RinceThis2014

            Ya. Not easy. Made me feel like I was up there though, really well done.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            It is. DS1 didn’t feel as immense. They really got that in the third game.

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    I didn’t know Don Mattrick was working for Maxis.

    • General JJ Raven (John)

      No one works for Maxis. They’re all slaves of EA.

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    It would have taken less than 6 months if they hadn’t done it in the first place.

  • Kromas

    There is a massive difference in publishing houses.Valve relies on consumer input and thus makes their DRM (yes steamworks is actually DRM) seem attractive. Ubisoft tries to stay under the radar but ultimately their system is bad and people dislike it. EA proudly announces their games will be always on and just plain ignores their consumer base. And Activision just keeps on making CoD and sulking about Blizzard.

    • General JJ Raven (John)

      Valve and Bathesda for me thanks.

      • Kromas

        CD project RED is on the top of my list.No mess no fuss and bloody good games.

        • General JJ Raven (John)

          Oh man. Forgot about them. That’s what I love about Bathesda and CD projekt red. No fuss.

          • Kromas

            Well Bethesda needs to sort out their beta testing. their games are always (and I really mean always) buggy at launch.I have still to finish Fallout:New Vegas cause half way through it corrupted my saves and even Skyrim pissed me off.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Sheesh. I’ve had a problem on Fallout NV myself. But not a single bug on Skyrim to date (I’ve been lucky). And I’m running all the DLC’s and over 20 mods.

            But I agree, their games do tend to be buggy.

          • Kromas

            FAS ROH …. (windows has encountered an error with Skyrim.Do you want to send an error report) … DAMN!!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Hahaha. That’s a masterful yell you have there.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            What I like about Bathesda is how clean I feel after playing one of their games. trollol!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Different to after an EA game, where your butt hurts.

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        I wouldn’t rate Bugthesda that highly. They could definitely learn a thing or two from CD Projekt Red. But in terms of shit publishers and developers, Bethesda and Zenimax are right there alongside EA and Activision in my book. The amount of lies they spewed during and after Skyrim was released was absolutely disgusting. Not to mention, the misrepresentation of their software during Oblivion. Any one remember Radiant AI or what an advance it was supposed to be? Remember what a dud it really was?

        • General JJ Raven (John)

          Oh. Alongside EA? Yoh. That just made me cringe. But, to each his own. I’ve obviously missed their bad press moments.

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Peter Hines was on a roll. He was flooding twitter and the internet with bollocks leading up to Skyrim. And that is always a no-no for me. I appreciate marketing, I appreciate trying to showcase your games in the best possible light, and allowing hype to build but blatantly lying is where I draw the line.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Ah. That’s disappointing.

    • That Tall Twit Norm

      LOL @ the last sentence.

    • CrasH

      But if i have no internet for any reason, most of my steam games can still be played in offline mode and even when i am playing a game while being connected, it wont crash/stop a single player game when the internet stops… Thats why steam “DRM” is okay because it does not prevent you from playing with other systems do when it cant authenticate…

      • Kromas

        Hence the reason why Steam DRM is attractive.

        • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

          Not only is it attractive but at least the games in your steam library will still be available if Valve goes belly up. Simply release a patch not requiring steam to ever log in again and you still have your games.

          • Kromas

            Yeah but really what are the chances of steam ever going belly up? EA is doing a real crap job and they still manage to turn a profit (I think they cook the books but that is my opinion). then again EA force feeds DLC to their consumers.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Valve has Gabe. We should be safe.

          • Kromas

            All hail Gabe.Leader of the free worlds! (Except Azeroth)

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            Slim to none in all honesty. But as I said “if”.

            If EA had to go belly up… all those always online things would be real crappy to have wouldn’t it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Some of the games on Steam don’t even use the optional Steamworks DRM. You can copy the installation folder from your Steam folder, put it somewhere else & run the game from there directly without using the client.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            O_o

          • Kromas

            Indeed but Steamworks made me lazy.I buy a game from my phone and it is downloaded by the time I get home from work.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            You just listed one of the reasons why I love Steam. (other developers take note)

          • Kromas

            If only they would fix their backup utility. I tried to restore L4D yesterday and it got screwed up.Now I am redownloading it again.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Yes. That thing is still a bit screwed up. I just think they need to change their app a bit. The store is really difficult to get around on your phone.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            It’s certainly damn convenient, especially now that offline mode actually works. Steam just works.

          • Kromas

            They did have years and years of perfecting it though but in all honesty it is because they listen to their fans.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            If you look at Uplay (shite) and Origin (shite). They both look shiny and refined and grand and wonderful. But they just don’t work the way you want them to. Steam looks basic and sometimes even dated. But it always works the way you need it to.

          • Kromas

            You can make steam look like Origin with the view button. (But don’t)

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            I don’t like inducing projectile vomit. So, no thanks.
            Not too fond of the BIG PICTURE mode either. Too little info and feels too much like a console (too generic).

          • Kromas

            Indeed.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Don’t get me started on fucking Uplay. It’s not Uplay, it’s Uwait while we decide if we think it’s okay for you to play the game you bought & we haven’t switched a server off for shits & giggles. WTF you have to run that client after starting the game from STEAM is beyond stupid. And when their servers are unavailable, which has happened to me a few times, you can’t play the game. It makes me mad.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            You played Blood Dragon, didn’t you?
            I ruined my favourite pair of underwear when I saw Uplay opening up when I started the game from Steam. AND! Then piece of horse-shit Uplay went into “initializing” for 30minutes!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            Uplay is indeed a shocking thing to see!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            I actually liked Ubisoft until Uplay

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Me too.

            “Hey look guys, EA is releasing their own game client to cut out the middle man. We should do the same. It’s so convenient & everyone loves it.”

            NO THEY DON’T.

            At least they didn’t go full retard & stop listing new titles on Steam, like our other friends did.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Yes. Sheesh. I just don’t get that. Makes it easier for me. I just don’t buy it.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Yes. The first time I tried to play it Uplay was “down for maintenance” so the game wouldn’t load. RAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            I got AC3 (or one of them) for free with my GFx card. Played it once. Uplay just makes things too hard, besides the fact that it loads longer than it takes me to download a movie and watch it.

          • RockMossel2014

            Same with Rocksmith! But I noticed that instead of clicking ok when there are no servers, just click cancel (or press escape, cant remember). It then bypasses all that crap and you go straight to the game!

  • Anon A Mouse

    Who wants to bet that this patch will break something somewhere. If they went with SP en MP from the start things would have been so much easier, it’s going to take them even longer to get all the bugs fixed after this patch.

  • Wyzak

    I’ll consider picking it up now if I see it at a good price and reviews show that the game is functioning properly now (traffic etc has been fixed)

    • General JJ Raven (John)

      Traffic apparently still hasn’t been fixed. And to put it lightly. It’s a royal f-up.

      • Wyzak

        Yeah it’s their failed agent system at work. I strongly believe that the failure of the agent system is the only reason they decided to limit the size of the maps so much. If the agents just barely work on a tiny map, imagine the stuff-up on a big map.

        • Double-O-Six and a half

          Was it a Juju “bloody agent” in a red beret?

          • Wyzak

            hey! don’t come here with your white tendencies.

    • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      Simcity, now with all the annoying problems of a real city!

      • Wyzak

        At least in a real city those things can be fixed by the engineers, last time I saw videos of Simcity the actions were completely ludicrous, and illogical.

  • Lizzard

    Is it still worth the effort though? I no longer play it all, as it was massively disappointing. Not to mention how broken the simulations were, even off their imaginary cloud simulations.

    • Kromas

      I recently played Lego with my nephew.We built our own City and then we trampled it. That was much much more fun than I have had in Sim Shitty.

      • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

        You willingly trampled on Lego????
        Woah 0.o brave man

        • Kromas

          Had slippers on (got it for xmas (quite comfy))

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            Slippers? So not even a solid sole? Woah dude. You like living on the edge do you?

          • Kromas

            Just call me Kromas “Danger” Powers. Yeah baby!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            but but the lego could break!!

          • Kromas

            We have loads. I gave all my lego from when I was a kid 30 years ago when lego was still cheap and bountiful.Also it is no fun to just build a city. You need to go Godzilla on its ass!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            I remember when you could just buy a box of legos. Not Star Wars, or Pirates or a specific thing. Just a box of mixed legos.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            The days of innocence..

          • Kromas

            When Lego was bountiful this happened often.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I had like 20 5l ice cream tubes filled with lego, just gave it away! I should of kept it!! lego a rip off now!

      • Matewis Jubilai

        I would still play with legos today if it weren’t so damned expensive. My last treat was a R500 X-Wing a couple of years ago I bought for myself. Didn’t have enough wallet bravado to go for the Millennium Falcon…

        • Kromas

          Damn that is nice!

    • Rags

      The recent patches has made the game a lot better. With a larger maps mod and offline its worth installing again.

      • Lizzard

        Where does one find this bigger maps mod? Sounds exactly like the thing i need.

    • Matewis Jubilai

      Just give the modders a year or so to go at it.

  • oVg

    They should have released it for the next gen consoles after Titan Fall and Destiny prove that gamers want always on-line DRM updates, Maps, social plug ins, DLC AKA FORZA 4 Tracks for FORZA 5 behind pay walls, Patches, Micro Transactions and redeem codes ALL ON THE CLOUD.

    Sim City was way ahead of its time. Releasing a DRM game during the 7th gen console generation where the console does not need a MANDATORY day one update out of the box… what were they thinking :P

    • General JJ Raven (John)

      Sim City on console. Did I just hear the matrix implode?

      • oVg

        ;) Just checking to see people do read my bollocks.

        • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

          I’d much rather prefer to read your comments than your bollocks.

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          Your pubes aren’t tea leaves :P

          • RinceThis2014

            That’s not what she said!

          • oVg

            Do you drink Rooibos :P

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Not anymore.

          • Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!

            Images! IMAGES! Quick! Bring me the brain bleach!!

      • RinceThis2014

        What, like Diablo on console? BWAHAHAHAHAH! Too soon?

        • General JJ Raven (John)

          LOL. Well done. Actually want to get that. The lady and myself will have loads of fun playing that together. Though she’ll probably play when I’m not there and leave me behind.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            shame…

        • oVg

          TOOOOOO SOOOOOOON
          It was R199 at Musica the other day. I placed it on the bottom shelf behind the other games.
          ERROR 37 that BLIZZARD!!!

          When the PS4 was revealed alongside DIABLO 3 I already realized how quickly gamers forget.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            We don’t forget, we believe the marketing lies. Blizzard is the new EA, just no-one wants to admit it.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Point made.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I will struggle to mutter those words! Blizzard was my childhood friend!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            To be honest. I actually haven’t had any problems with StarCraft II and that thing is always online. Then again, whenever my internet seemed choppy, I just wouldn’t bother with it.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            *whispers* I have yet to play Starcraft 2… Still got it lying at home.

          • Kromas

            Blasphemy! May a thousand zerglings infest you nether regions.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Nay. Ultralisks.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            loved starcraft 1 and warcraft games!

          • Kromas

            No. EA loves pay to win. Blizzard does not yet love that concept so EA is still worse.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            Ever heard of World of WarCraft, or a full-priced expansion pack that adds one new act and one new character class? ;)

          • Kromas

            Please show me pay to win in WoW. All you can buy in the store is cute pets. Every other pay to win system is illegal.GW2 has pay to win but not WoW. Both games are horrible though and everyone should be playing DayZ. :P

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            How far can you get in WoW without paying though?

          • Kromas

            Apart from the sub you can’t pay for anything other than pets. So everyone can get to the same level with the same gear.Depending on play time.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            That’s what I meant, bud – the sub. I can play The Old Republic without any obligation of paying a cent for as much as I want and as far as I want.

            Yes, there are restrictions, but those are conveniences more than hindrances. With Blizzard I’m still paying top dollar, both monthly and for an expansion pack, for not enough value to be honest.

          • Kromas

            Subs are not pay to win.Also you can buy items and money in Star Wars and that is pay to win.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            True, they haven’t adopted an actual pay-to-win method yet. What they are doing though is charging for a lot and not giving the value in return.

            Their quality of games has dropped considerably over the past decade, and they are riding on their name to make the sales, regardless – and it’s working really well for them. They have a strong marketing team that knows that they only have to press our nostalgic button and they’ve got 5 million pre-orders.

            I’ve gone of topic though.

          • Kromas

            But it is fun going off topic. I still enjoy their cinematics though. Starcraft however is still top notch compared to … oh wait EA screwed up all their RTS games and they don’t exist anymore. :P

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            Hehe, a new C&C would’ve been fun.

            Back to the Blizzard-quality thing. Their stories are all so damn similar now. WarCraft has Arthas, StarCraft has Kerrigan and Diablo has Leah. All the dialogue is almost identical too, heck you can get drunk for drinking each time they say “corrupted” or “torn asunder!”. :P

            Their cinematic visual quality is top-notch. The cinematic dialogue though… yeeesh.

          • Kromas

            If you want dialogue then you can only trust Bioware (until the last 15 mins ofc. :P

          • Rags

            How is shitty drop rate and RMAH not pay to win? :)

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            Exactly. They tried to go for it and were called out.

          • Kromas

            Does not yet love the concept. That was why it got dropped in the console version. It was a test and it failed and I am glad it did.Also that is one game. Name one recent EA game that does not have pay to win.That is much much more difficult.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            No, there was outrage, and they couldn’t justify it without admitting to what they were intending. So they canned it.

          • Rags

            What is your criteria for pay to win?

            Besides, Diablo 3 still has RMAH and is still online only. While being one of the best selling PC games of all time. Where is the fan service? No it will come in a farking expansion pack a new loot system and still just online only. Say what you will but Maxis is giving us all these updates at no cost or hidden in an expansion.

            And Blizzard continue to lie to us and think we are morons.

          • Kromas

            I only really care about Starcraft anymore.But I still believe we should give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt. It is not like they have been screwing us for years.At least let us see what they do now that they are free from Activision.

          • ToshZA

            Ok so I’ve read the entire conversation – and I’ve decided to add my two cents here.

            Blizzard are nowhere near EA. Not even close. They’re still making great games. They screwed up with something on the PC D3, but fixed it for console, and will do so on PC too. SC2 is amazing. WoW has millions of people playing.

            And here’s the thing EVERYONE forgets. Hearthstone – completely free, not pay to win. Heroes of the Storm, the new MOBA from Blizz, likely free, not pay to win. And everyone who’s played Hearthstone can tell you – it rocks. Its free, it rocks, it’s typical Blizzard.

            Diablo 3 exp is going to be great too. Something everyone also forgets is that diablo 2 without the expansion sucked as well, but they made up for it with the expansion.

            Blizzard remain true to their core. They still love games, and gamers. Raging on one failed idea isn’t the same as the entire company screwing their clients over – aka EA.

          • Gareth L (That Guy)

            So, what you’re saying is that you just don’t want to admit it. :P

            Kidding, look you’re right. I may have exaggerated a bit, but I still don’t think that Blizzard titles are anywhere near their initial quality, yet that nostalgia is what is still getting their sales.

          • RinceThis2014

            You want to get it?

          • TiMsTeR1033

            D3 co op on a couch must be a blast!

          • RinceThis2014

            Not when you are playing with a pissed up OVG who has no clue how to make guns and thinks you have to pay for the parts! I didn’t have to and made kick ass weapons! He’s just retarded is all trololo!

          • oVg

            :P

          • TiMsTeR1033

            D3 has guns? The rest point made!

          • oVg

            He sees DS3. But either way guns, leather trousers… still the same thing :P

          • RinceThis2014

            Opps, sorry, thought you meant Dead Space 3 :)

          • TiMsTeR1033

            What Dull space 3 fuck that idea mate!

          • RinceThis2014

            It isn’t dull at all. It is a good game, just not a good Dead Space game.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I know aint dull, but sure as heck isnt dead space that I remember!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            It wasn’t dull. Just wasn’t the same as the first two. I can think of many games more dull.

          • Hammersteyn

            It’s delicious

          • oVg

            I do not care how much it has been improved. I will not buy it out of principle considering they used the PC gamers as theire QA testers before the creators realised it was a piece of shit and that the real money auction house did not work before they packed their bags and left the company.

          • RinceThis2014

            I’d buy it just because it is the first time that the PC Master Race were used as Beta testers, that honour usually falls to us! :)

          • oVg

            lol And they still get the the worst version of the console Beta tested game. DARK SOULS? :P

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            And look how much better your version was, because we’re even better at beta testing :P

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            WOOOOOOOOOOT

          • RinceThis2014

            :P Go and be nice on my Don Jon review :P

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Careful what you wish for :D

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            dun dun duuuuunnnnn

        • Rags

          People forget, Diablo was on the PS1 too. :)
          And it played great.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            diablo 1?

          • Rags

            Yes sir.

          • RinceThis2014

            True dat!

          • oVg

            So did Final Fantasy on the Nintendo :P
            TOOO SOOOON

        • Hammersteyn

          Best version ever.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Technically it’s the only version. That thing on PC isn’t really a game.

          • Hammersteyn

            That thing on the PC is more of an Auction House.

          • oVg

            You mean you have to farm for your leather trousers instead of purchase them in the store :P

          • RinceThis2014

            BWAHAHAHA!

          • Hammersteyn

            LOL!

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            Draadsitter! :P

          • Hammersteyn

            Hahaha, I have a PC,PS3,PS4 and Vita. I may be tipping.

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            PC >>> PS3+PS4+Vita

          • Hammersteyn

            Not denying that.

    • RinceThis2014

      That’s just it, they weren’t!

    • Hammersteyn

      PC has had mandatory DRM for a long time now. PS4 and XBOX One is now moving into that direction though most of their games I suspect will still be offline.

      • oVg

        The PS2 was the last console. LONG LIVE THE PS2.
        The new gen are lazy PCs for the casual market :P

        • Kromas

          And the SNES was the best console. Long live Mario!

          • oVg

            A special compartment in my brain has all of the experience still stored from this MASTER PIECE of colour and sound.

          • oVg

            NO FCKING PATCHES REQUIRED

          • Double-O-Six and a half

            Amen to that!!!

            In the PS2 days a developer HAD to get their code right. They released a poorly coded game it failed. Nowadays they release a poorly coded game and they just “fix” it with endless patches – Always online is just an excuse for lazy and inadequate coding!!!

          • Kromas

            Also the most complex code was Up,Up,Down,Down ABAB. :P

          • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

            Now that is something special, right there. No, mp, no online. just fun.

          • Kromas

            There was MP. I remember playing Bubble Bobble with a friend. :P Also Dig Dug.

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            SUCH a mario slut you are!

          • Hammersteyn

            Yup, but most of us could only find the Genesis in store. Man I still remeber the first time me and my brother fired up Golden Axe and Altered Beast.

        • Hammersteyn

          Agreed, PS2 was a godsend. The PS1 wasn’t bad either.

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            YES, planetside 2 is heavenly!

          • Hammersteyn

            You troll you XD

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            Hey, what can I say, love that effing game! Racked up nice score last two times I jammed a quick session, 29 and 32 with K/D 29 and 4.5 respectively

          • Hammersteyn

            Jeez ease up Rambo

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            I am very proud of the 29 KD scored that day, normally, I log in once per each faction, play until killed once, log out and do the other faction etc.

            Rolling as Max in Biolab defence, with a Engi being my repair buddy, we both racket up plenty XP there! Best KD I had ever before this 29 was 7.2 I think

  • TiMsTeR1033

    Moral to the story, Simcity should of been offline game with online Mp mode. The idea of purely online games is fine for games like WOW ect but not Simcity which all previous Simcity games were completely offline… stupid EA yet again..

    • Hammersteyn

      Maybe it would have been fine if not for all the server issues they had. But there was no excuse to leave out the option. If only they asked their consumer base before they started developing.

      • General JJ Raven (John)

        Or make a game that is how the gamers (the customers) want it. You only have to spend ten minutes on any gaming forum to realize that everyone hates DRM.

        • Hammersteyn

          One word. Kickstarter. And the beauty is we fund what we want.

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Yes. Look what happened to DAYZ. People want to support games that give them what they want.

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            Indeed

          • Admiral Chief in Vegas

            Agreed!

      • TiMsTeR1033

        There should always be choice, unless Online game. still servers should of worked very sad how you can only play the game like a month after purchase..

        • General JJ Raven (John)

          Don’t forget the Darkspore debacle. EA has made some serious screwups the past few years and it’s going to take a lot for me to buy an EA game ever again.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I was gonna buy Darkspore till saw what suffering my buddy went through always online crap!

          • General JJ Raven (John)

            Well, the first bunch they released didn’t actually work at all. The DVD’s were useless. So you went out, bought a physical copy, but had to download the entire game.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I remember that!

  • Admiral Chief in Vegas

    What about a Syndicate Wars SimCity?

    • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim

      Oh god, I want more Syndicate.

      • Alien Emperor Trevor

        Hopefully Satellite Reign will scratch that itch nicely.

        • Admiral Chief in Vegas

          Here is hoping!

      • Admiral Chief in Vegas

        So much!

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    EA should just continue on its path. To Bankruptcy! TO BANKRUPTCY!!! And all of Gamerhood will rejoice.

    • Admiral Chief in Vegas

      lol

  • UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy

    Bigger maps and teraforming is just way more important to me… Everything I do is online anyway. So the online didn’t bother me. The damn small maps piss me off though.

  • DrKiller

    I see the problem right there… “Java” :P

  • Gr8_Balls_o_Fire

    “They greatly underestimated how many people like playing games offline,
    alone, without all that social nonsense that gamers are being force-fed
    all the time.”

    APPLIES TO EVERY GAME DEVELOPER OUT THERE

    Well said Geoff

  • loftie

    I just might go and buy simcity now…

  • LollydaLolDragon

    Yay.. finally offline.. now i can pira.. i mean Purchase the game without any hassels..