Dota 2 vs League of Legends: By the numbers 
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Zoe Hawkins
July 4, 2014 at 3:30 pm

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We’ve looked at a variety of differences between the world’s two most popular MOBA this week. For the final entry in this series, its time to crunch the numbers. How many players are there? How do the numbers stack up? It might not determine which game is best, but it certainly will tell us which one reigns supreme (for now).

Number of players

Mobs

Due to not being on Steam, it can be trickier to track the numbers for League of Legends. However, last time they released their stats, their peak was 7.5 million concurrent users. That’s a lot of dying Teemos. Meanwhile, Dota 2’s all-time peak is 843 024. While that is nothing to sneeze at, and it is still leaps and bounds ahead of all its major competition on Steam, it is still tiny compared to League of Legends. LoL is almost nine times bigger than Dota 2 – just think of how many servers that takes. I would love to give you details on whether LoL is growing, and the rate of change for LoL compared to the growth rate of Dota 2. However, with the lack of numbers available from Riot Games, it just isn’t possible to do so.

Of course, this explains why we talk about the MOBAs so much when it comes to eSports – with active players like these, it’s only natural that they get a lot of exposure. COD, Battlefield and others are a drop in the bucket by comparison.

Prize money

Moneycat

When it comes to prize money there really isn’t much comparison either, although this time in the other direction. While League of Legends is offering a rather respectable prize pool for the world championships of over $2 million, it simply can’t touch the prize pool for The International which is currently over $10 million and still climbing.

Before people climb all over me and say that there are more tournaments with prize money in League of Legends or any other argument, the reality is that between the two MOBA, Dota 2 players make more money from prizes. A lot more money; the highest paid Dota 2 players fill up 11 of the top 20 eSports earners, with the highest paid League of Legends player coming in at 27th place.

Spectators

Viewer cat

Last year, Dota 2’s third International was a huge success. It had a ridiculous prize pool, top teams, and a horde of spectators. Just over 1 million concurrent people tuned in on twitch, Gamefy and in game – that doesn’t even include the people who watched in groups at pub events or though other means. One million people watching eSports at the same time (so not counting the numbers that watched at various different times) – that’s pretty impressive.

A few months later, it was time for the League of Legends Season 3 finals, which dwarfed those numbers. 8.5 million people watched the game at the same time. The year before, LoL had 1.1 million concurrent streamers, how did an extra seven million viewers get on board in the space of a year? That is some impressive eSports viewing, and rivals views the royal wedding or the Olympics. Well done to you, LoL.

Up and coming competition

Competition

With the success of these MOBA, plenty of others are trying to get in on the profit. Some of them look like they will get some decent numbers. Heroes of Newerth (HoN) still gets some players, although the last time they posted about it was over a year ago and they were proudly grabbing 100k. SMITE has managed to grab 4 million players, but there aren’t any details about how many of those are concurrent.

Then there are all the other newcomers on the market – Dead Island, The Witcher, Infinite Crisis, Heroes of the Storm, Transformers, Dawngate, Arena of Fate. How much room is there for more MOBA? Will people really move from playing LoL or Dota 2 to playing The Witcher on mobile or Transformers? I think the Witcher will work for quick games, perhaps while waiting for your friends in a Dota lobby. However, I just don’t see all these other games surpassing LoL or Dota 2. Sure, there are plenty of MOBA players out there, but they are relatively committed to their MOBA of choice, and I don’t see them changing teams anytime soon.

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  • CiNiMoD

    Those stats are awesome. Personally, Im a LoL fan, and watching the LCS has become a weekly thing for me now. even the wife is slowly picking up a liking to it :P

    • frikkenator

      I find that explaining to people that I will spend time watching other people play a game, it is met with “but why?”. Once you explain that it is the same as watching any other sport and get them to sit down and watch a game or two they get into it quite quickly!

      • https://twitter.com/andreferhelst Aries

        true, and the only difference is that we actually learn things from watching others play the games, so it not like wasting time watching tv and learning nothing

  • ToshZA

    Interesting numbers, actually. And yet, there’s more dota news online (for me and where I go anyway) than LoL. Dota is also older, and since everything (heroes) is unlocked by default, I’d have expected closer numbers. Oh well.

    • frikkenator

      Dota 2 is considerably newer than LoL, and thus if you look at growth the user base growth of Dota 2 is much, much higher than that of LoL. I started playing Dota 2 1.5 years ago, and back then the number of unique players per month was 1.9 million, it is now just shy of 9 million.

      • ToshZA

        Dota 1 invented the genre. You don’t get older than that. Dota 2 is merely an upgrade to the first, as a standalone package.

        • frikkenator

          True, but a lot of players moved to HoN and LoL between Dota 1 and 2.

          • ToshZA

            Why didn’t they move back then? It’s just, odd to me you know?

          • frikkenator

            Yea sorry that’s what I was trying to say, even though Dota 2 is still way behind, it is growing much faster as those players are moving back to Dota.

          • ToshZA

            Well since they opened the floodgates a few months ago, the monthly unique numbers went from 6m to 8m. But that’s total, in a month. LoL has about that much, concurrently. That’s still a vast, vast difference.

            Whatever though, people will always play which ever game they prefer. But damn, the numbers.

        • Matthew Holliday

          yeah, but different company, different platform.
          dota 2 has probably had more players in its short time than wc3 dota ever had.

          • ToshZA

            This is why I’m surprised at just how big LoL is though. Dota was the original, the pioneer of the genre. I’d have expected closer numbers. I’m not saying either is superior, because I haven’t played LoL and I don’t have an opinion to share on that matter. But it’s still very surprising for me.

          • Chung Van Dao

            It’s not really surprising because DotA as a concept was always popular but underground due to its limited custom map status. LoL just takes the concept and brings it to the masses with less but more intuitive and simplified mechanics, more cutesy visuals and an unlock system that attracted MMORPG players. It was also heavily marketed and released years before Dota 2 so by the time the latter came out, LoL already had a giant snowball going its way. However, this doesn’t matter because quality > quantity. Objectively Dota 2 offers its players more for a better value (much more well-made client and features, everything is unlocked, you can even make money off cosmetic drops).

            Keep in mind that Riot doesn’t release publicly available data and instead opts to release “announcements” while Valve has actual data you can view by the hour and by the day. Also it’s a lot easier and there’s more “incentive” to have smurfs/secondary accounts in LoL. For instance it’s region-locked so an Aus/NZ/UK player with friends in America would want to opt to play on the NA servers but when solo queuing would rather play on a local/closer server.

            This is not to say that LoL isn’t more popular because it most certainly is and everything indicates towards that, just how many players it has, however, is another matter.

          • Cody

            The so-called superior benefits in DOTA 2 mentioned by you are arguable. Well-made client and features? In my honest opinion, LOL has a better and more simplified, yet cleaner client. DOTA 2 Interface is a mashup of different sections. Well I first played the game, I could hardly find the Options menu.

            Not everything is unlocked in DOTA 2. There are packages, skins that require players to buy, similar to LOL. If your argument simply illustrates the fact that the champions of LOL need to be unlocked with money, you are only half-correct. All champions can be bought with collectible and FREE in-game money, available after every single game you play in LoL, except under some special circumstances. If you pay some efforts into the game, sooner or later you can get all the champions by simply constantly playing LOL. It’s that simple, really.

            I am not really sure about the “announcements” part. If I have not mistaken, are you commenting on the speed of the announcements made by RIOT and Valve? You are not making sense here. I cannot relate this to the topic we are debating on.

            In my opinion, tutorials in DOTA 2 are boring, and not exactly fun. The interface (without lock camera mode) makes the screen a little bit uncontrollable. At least in LOL, you get the choose and alter locked screen mode. In-game guides and game modes are constantly replenished and improved by RIOT too. You cannot simply ignore that. So your opinions are really biased. I’d like to say both games are equal in many aspects.

          • Damien Carl Samuels

            “I am not really sure about the “announcements” part. If I have not mistaken, are you commenting on the speed of the announcements made by RIOT and Valve? You are not making sense here. I cannot relate this to the topic we are debating on.”

            – Stats for DOTA 2 are readily available to anyone online. Whereas RIOT makes announcements; He is insinuating that the stats from RIOT are not 100% as it’s not transparent, whereas with DOTA 2, you can see it at any time or whatevs.

            “In my opinion, tutorials in DOTA 2 are boring, and not exactly fun. The interface (without lock camera mode) makes the screen a little bit uncontrollable. At least in LOL, you get the choose and alter locked screen mode. In-game guides and game modes are constantly replenished and improved by RIOT too. You cannot simply ignore that. So your opinions are really biased. I’d like to say both games are equal in many aspects.”

            – DOTA 2 Tuts are OK – although basic, it’s nothing to write home about, however, I would say that it’s better to learn reading online guides and practicing against the bots than to rely on tutorials. There’s also a mentoring system in DOTA 2, which I have not used yet, which I assume would be handy. I am assuming that DOTA 2 has such a high learning curve, which would probably only be understood within a full campaign mode, but then again, there’s a practice area and websites you can use for learning – it’s not that hard.

            The screen issues, it’s not really an issue, it just takes getting used to. Not really a deal breaker by any means.

            As for Champions and heroes:
            Heroes are all unlocked in DOTA 2, whereas the champions need to be either A) Grinded for hours to get or, B) Kid with dads credit card wired to his ass can purchase and own. The issue here is “Grinding”, which for many people, are probably not an issue.

            “I’d like to say both games are equal in many aspects.” As support of this, I’d like to point out UT vs Quake 3 Arena. Similar types of games, both extremely fun to play and there’s no reason not to play both (). Sure, each of these titles had their die hard fanboys, but just like then, It’s pointless arguing which is better. Both of these titles (DOTA2, LOL) are fun to play for different reasons altogether. Yeah, they share various similar aspects, but I’d like to think of them having different purposes and target market.

    • Matthew Holliday

      the local LoL scene isnt as large as the local Dota 2 scene.
      if there was more demand for the news, there would be more news.

  • http://www.pornhub.com Doug

    Loving the eSports exposure atm. Cant wait until they are made into Olympic events ;)

  • Anthony Nell

    Well here is a little numbers game as well.

    DotA 2 sold the Compendium for TI4, which costs $10, of that amount $2.5 goes to the prize pool. So if we assume that each compendium sold is used by a player (you can only activate one per account) that is 4 million compendium owners. Besides the fact that obviously not everyone owns a compendium or could afford to buy/trade for one. That is roughly half the amount of unique players this last month, and possibly half the viewership of last years Ti3 tournament.

    Those numbers are increasing exponentially each year and I would hazard a bet to DotA 2 overtaking LoL in the near future numbers wise.

    • ToshZA

      A lot of that prize fund comes from people buying points to level up their compendiums. 25% of those sales were also added to the prize pool.

      • Anthony Nell
        • ToshZA

          And a portion of those extra funds, came from the extra points people bought. What’s the point in that link?

          • Anthony Nell

            it’s just a link demonstrating the funds and stats etc. I wasnt posing an argument or I would have made one. I don’t know if you are right or wrong, its just an interesting link.

          • ToshZA

            Well now I feel like a tool. Sorry. >_<

          • Anthony Nell

            lol I aint even mad

          • ToshZA

            lol, but I still acted like a tool, so apology stands. :)

          • Rags

            Dude you should have responded with “Then why did you not expand in the comment asshat?”. ;)

  • Chung Van Dao

    Those 8.5 million viewers include TV broadcasts in Korea & China – the two most populous and dominant regions of LoL. In terms of ratio of viewers-to-playerbase Dota 2 is doing better. IMO it’s a lot more exciting to watch.

  • Eugene

    I don’t trust Riot’s numbers.

    • Brady miaau

      indeed. Hidden is bad.

  • guobaorou

    Something to mention is that Chinese Dota 2 players (mostly) do NOT play on Steam and are not counted in those concurrent user numbers on Steam. A different company called Perfect World handles all the server/account/etc stuff in China for Dota 2.

    Tencent owns Riot, and as a result Chinese players (biggest single country for LOL by a mile) do get counted towards those numbers for LOL.

    So while it probably doesn’t get close to LOL’s huge numbers, but seeing as it is pretty popular over here it does give it a nice boost since China is probably the single biggest country for Dota 2.

    Another interesting bit about Chinese LOL vs Dota 2 is that Tencent has made it super, duper easy to sign up for LOL. Tencent owns QQ and Weixin, two instant messaging platforms that China essentially runs on these days. Tencent also owns Riot, and as a result LOL. That QQ login that basically every Chinese citizen has several of already works as a LOL login, so you just need to download a client and you’re good. The billing system is also all run through the same channels that people have already been using for close to a decade, so the barrier of entry for LOL in China is pretty darn low.

    That said, the LOL vs Dota dynamic here is pretty interesting cause while LOL is what everyone plays, Dota is what everyone watches. Dota 2 is almost considered “higher end” (and given China’s domination of pro Dota 2 compared to LOL, it doesn’t come as a surprise) while LOL is the everyman’s e-sport.

  • Brady miaau

    Naspers makes a fair amount of buck from their 30% stake (is it 30, think so) in Tencent.

    The numbers are jut staggering when I read how many users are on Tencent products globally, with most being in China.

    I still distrust Riot Games figures, because they are not transparent. I do, however, think they are viable.

  • Jadryga

    Gotta update the numbers… DOTA2’s peak hit 9million unique users in the past month.

    • Robin

      and lol got 27 mil so yea…

  • Robin

    And lol got now 27 mil so…. yea

  • andrew Wallace

    WTF you r numbers are all wrong. the current UNIQUE MONTHLY PLAYERS on dota 2 is at about 9.5 million and it has been that way for months and the internation championships were so big that it was on ESPN and and was reconized as a sport by the Olympic comity. I have been playing DOTA since about when this article came out and the LOWEST number of monthly players I ever saw was 9.2 M. Also alot of people have quit LOL and that probably hasn’t factored into your numbers while DOTA keeps its number only on active players by tracking unique players per month

    • misys

      Dude. Those are official Valve statistics. Please tell us where you are getting your info from, otherwise please follow the general rule of having people think that you’re an idiot, than know you’re an idiot.

      • Mack

        When you log into the game, the first thing you see in the menu is a “Unique Monthly Players” counter.

        • spent

          dat burn, lol players gonna hate forever

          • derp

            LoL had 27 mil unique daily players back in Jan (definitely more now)…so GG Dota?

          • JAke

            Really, so 900,000,000 players in one month.

          • derp

            Sigh, please do you not understand simple English/math? Basically 27m accounts logged in at least once on a certain day before Jan 2014. This does not mean that on the next day another different 27m accounts are going to log on… let’s say 20m logged on the next day, out of that 20m there may or may not have been accounts from the previous day. If all 20 are different from the day before then the accumulative unique of monthly (depending on when the month starts and ends) is 47m from the two days but if the 20m of second day were all players who played the previous day, then the monthly unique would still be 27.

            Now I understand why the 2 games all have so many individuals who have no idea what is going on. Absurd how someone cannot grasp this simple concept.

          • anon

            seems like a fag sjw to me

          • anon2

            So fucking true, you sir should get a medal.

          • Ameer Abdallah

            nice 2nd account anon2…. next time make another account with a different name LOL

          • Zennock

            Proof?

          • derp
          • Guest

            Yup, see that fellas? Total League Fanboy.

          • derp

            I’ve played lol for three weeks before the study term started so I wouldn’t call myself a fanboy. I wouldn’t even call myself a gamer, hiki otaku is more like it. ^_^

          • Kami

            that’s even worse lol

          • CasualFangay

            typical LoL defender doesnt even consider himself a gamer

          • kjhgshgjfhjsdh

            Typical Dota Fag cant handle that LoL is more popular.

          • dota is for dicks

            nice 1

          • Zennock

            Hmm? But is from riot only? Isnt there any 3RD party company reporting it?

          • Miles Massage

            all those players but very little prize money compared to dota….just saying!

          • yplay

            Not all DoTA tournaments has cash prizes. LoL tournaments no matter how small or localize. Riot Games always sponsor for cash prizes..

          • Glen DiCecco

            A LOT of people I know are switching over to DOTA 2 recently. It will be interesting to see how that continues into next year. I think LoL players especially like how ALL heroes are available, so you don’t have to save up points to buy them.

          • yplay

            HEROES are classified by their DIFFICULTY – The easier one’s comes CHEAP or FREE which can be bought using in-game currency.

            This is so to make sure that Newbies who are not able to control DIFFICULT heroes effectively can’t be FED in the Fields of Justice.. with the frustration of playerbase…

            even THE CHEAPEST or FREE AD HEROES LIKE ASHE OR MASTER YI has strongest damage output in-game and an easy PENTAKILL

          • that guy

            and yet the dota 2 prise pool is 10 times the lol one GG lol players

          • fgdhdfhfdhhfdhdh

            lol LoL is way more popular, gg Dota Fags :)

          • Peace

            So what if dota 2 prize pool is 10 times larger? Do you even have a freaking chance to get it? Such joke…. If you can’t even reach it, in what position do you even have to say that more prize pool = better game. Such logic much wow.

          • Van

            The same could be said about LoL having more players. That just means that it caters to a more casual audience, not that it’s inherently better.

          • Van

            More popular =/= better.

    • Hrmz

      someone doesn’t understand the word “concurrent”

    • Kanishka Wijesuriya

      One thing bro 32 million viewrs in total for season 3 ?? in dota please take a shit and get back

    • JonHoffman

      I’m not like…trying to compete or whatever, but if you want updated numbers here:
      League of Legends DAILY players: 27 million
      League of Legends MONTHLY players: 67 million
      League of Legends peak concurrent players: 7.5 million
      (source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2014/01/27/riots-league-of-legends-reveals-astonishing-27-million-daily-players-67-million-monthly/)

      Dota 2 doesn’t list all the same stats, but their peak concurrent users is still at 874,975
      (source: http://steamcharts.com/app/570)

      It looks like roughly 10 times as many people play League of Legends as play Dota 2. Dota still has a ton of players though…but it isn’t really even close to League of Legends’ numbers.

      • Tlth

        The difference with DotA is that there isn’t the draw to spam it like there is with league – you already have everything so you don’t need to grind for runes/champs. In league there is a specific incentive to log in once every day, no matter what. In DotA people are more likely to play just on the weekends when they have leisure time, instead of forcing a 15 minute bot match every day.
        What should be compared is revenue and competitive match viewership. Valve will be quite a bit more profitable than league just because of the relative skeleton crew they operate with compared to Riot.
        Of course lets not forget the massive crossover in fans between the games – a good percentage of DotA2 players will also be league players. It’s not like you have to choose one or the other, you can choose both(I do). The F2P model on both of them easily allows them both to exist. The difference though is that while DotA2 is a side project for Valve, it’s Riots only IP – so it’s much more likely to have to close down when the moba bubble bursts, while DotA2 is quite likely to live on in nigh immortality like TF2.

        • JonHoffman

          Well some of what you said is true (LoL pressures you to play more, there is crossover, etc…), but the peak concurrent viewers for The International (Dota 2) in 2014 was about 2 million and the peak concurrent viewers for League of Legends world finals LAST year was 8.5 million. I don’t think the official numbers are in yet for this year’s League of Legends world finals.

          So, like I said before…it doesn’t mean like “League is better” or something, but based on all metrics…it is way more popular, even just to watch.

          Oh also, about the revenue… for 2013, the only number I can find for Dota 2 has them at around $80 million. From April 2013 – March 2014, League of Legends made around $927 million. Riot does have a lot more employees, but most of them are paid less than Valve game devs (because Riot has a ton of support and community staff).

          • Van

            The peak of 8.2 million for 2013 included TV broadcasts in China & Korea (the 2 largest player-bases) while Dota 2’s 2 million for 2014 does not include TV broadcasts. The online portion of LoL’s viewership was ~1/3 of the total so ~2.5-3.0 million, but given how many people were supposedly playing LoL at the time (~45-50 million ??), a peak of 8.2 million for both online and TV views is even weaker than Dota 2’s 2 million (online only) back at TI4 when it had ~8 million players.

          • yplay

            Stop Defending Dota 2 – you are only making fool of yourself.. The statistics speaks for itself. TV Broadcast?? The 8 million concurrent views for LoL were only ONLINE VIEWS and also DOES not INCLUDE TV BROADCAST faggot which may be A BILLION ..

            A close family friend who lives in China told me that LoL Worlds tournament were broadcast in almost every corner of China and that its like watching the WORLD CUP feeling…

            LOL owns Dota 2 – Get over it!

          • ApEnNy4YoUrThOuGhTz .

            Yeah well a close family friend who’s existence is indisputable and lives in China told me that my game is bestest so nerr. You complete juvenile.

        • Christopher L Banacka

          Do people really get on LoL get “grind” vs bots? I thought you make like 5% of the IP vs bots?

          I dunno, i never have grinded to get my IP points. I currently own about 70% of the champs and all the runes i want. I have around 2500 games (all modes) in about 3 3 years of playing now..

          One of the pros i give to LoL is the fact that most people don’t own all the champs, they generally will learn a handful and play those and become good with them. On Dota it seems like too many people play champs they dont know and just suck.

          • rofl

            *Heroes

          • yplay

            You are absolutely right! The Champs were classified by their difficulty levels. The more difficult a hero — the pricier it gets..

            This is to make sure that this NOOB WANNABES won’t get fed in the Fields of Justice…

          • Christopher L Banacka

            Ummm no?
            They are priced based on release times. There are currently 5 groups for prices for champs, and generally only 4 are used, the 5th is for the newest champ for the first week it is out.

      • Van

        The difference is that Valve give up-to-date stats on the concurrent number, daily concurrent peak and monthly active users. Riot just “announced” rounded numbers that we cannot verify and likely includes the many smurf/secondary/inter-regional accounts. The real figure is likely to be ~6x or so.

    • Chris Russu

      Doesn’t change the fact that DOTA is so crappy that it doesn’t even come close to league in terms of enjoyment.

      • M4TS

        “Enjoyment” to Chris Russu: A game so simple that 13 year olds can master it.

        DotA 2 is a far better game for any gamer who actually want depth. LoL is for people who are generally bad at competitive gaming.

        • Dingo

          It’s not depth, we just don’t want five more hotkeys than we need. We want a game that can showcase the skill of a player, not how good he is at making macros for his naga, or Black Widow.

          • M4TS

            You need 4 hotkeys and maybe 3-4 hotkeys for your items to be a decent player. If you want to go pro, then you will have hotkeys for everything in all games. That’s not a lot to think about. There are limited amounts of items in the game.

          • hnghj

            Uh, I don’t know about you, but I usually have 1-2 actives in league, and two summoners, while adjusting smartcast vs. non smartcast. Lets not forget the characters that have more than four abilities(Jayce, elise, lulu, etc)
            DotA2 has just as many characters/builds that only use 6 or less keys as league does, and every champ in league has a minimum of 6(excluding passives), while DotA2 heroes can actually be limited to 4(or fewer given passives, which is impossible I league even with passives).

          • yplay

            Not to mention the Runes and Mastery page builds. There lots of possibilities for playing LoL

          • lolcrymore

            Typical raging keyboard warrior

          • Van

            More like you don’t want to think much when playing – which is totally fine.

        • nengy

          “A game so simple that 13 year olds can master” Play before you say that bruh.

          • Van

            Most DotA players have played LoL and it’s much simpler to pick up, unfortunately, it’s not as enjoyable to us.

        • Kratos

          I totally agree

        • nengy

          “A game so simple that 13 year olds can master it” to Chris Russu: play it before you say that. I bet you don’t even know how to play yo.

          • discotechnology

            By 13 you can do quite a lot..

          • http://yomamasofat.com Sam

            I play both of these game. For LoL, I’m a Platinum Rank. For Dota, I haven’t played ranked matches yet but my skills are at the level which I can use Invoker, Meepo, Tinker etc etc. Okay now, anyone wants some popcorn? *munches*

        • LoL or Dota – WHO CARES

          (not directed towards any one person) Honestly, I wouldn’t say either game is worse or better. I am a competitive gamer, believe me on that. I hope you’re not a Dota fanboy who will defend at all costs. Personally, I enjoy League, because it requires more teamwork, with carries still in the game. Dota 2 just has a different play style. I honestly don’t get why people argue about which game is better. People say difficulty makes Dota better. Does it really? Only for certain players. Maybe having a more strategic concept makes the game better. But strategies are different depending on what you mean. So can all those LoL believers and Dota 2 believers just be quiet and play?

      • Kratos

        xD, bro get real :D
        Dota has a real extra oridanary thing that its muuuuuuch more less fun to watch then to play.
        So moral of the story is that dota give it a chance because everyone I invite to dota is always being a bitch because they think it’s more like AOE.

      • Van

        Implying that your enjoyment is universally recognised as the standard.

    • dingo

      lol unique monthly for Lol is like 67 million worldwide. BTW LoL has only been growing exponentially since it’s 12 million monthly players 2 years ago. Dota is an over complicated dying franchise that was a great kick start to the MOBA genre but need to admit it has passed the torch along.

      • lingo

        You mean multiplicatively. An solid exponent jump of 12m would need to at least be 144t. So it’s by a little over 5x in two years.

      • Van

        Or you know, the two can co-exist and have been co-existing for years now. Dota 2 is a continuation of DotA, a game that 10 million people still play after 11 years and a game that’s likely to outlive LoL due to its proven longevity and backing by the legendary Valve.

        If DotA is a dying franchise (please look up the definition of that word please because it’s not one) then why is it still played by 10 million (despite its supposed over-complexity) after 11 years?

    • Boo

      no u are wrong. lol has 7 million concurrent which means players playing at the same time. unique mothly players for dota is 9 mill while lol has 32 unique mill monthly players. got the info from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWI4ctB5weE

      • yungtraplord

        are you stupid? this video is already 2 years old cant believe you actually use this as an argument

    • chiu

      steam charts doesn’t lie fag : http://steamcharts.com/app/570

    • Mski AMD Xhapupu

      he means that all time peak meaning the most players playing at the same time for dota 2 is 900k. for lol is 8.5m. but unique monthly players in dota is indeed 9.5m but it is 70m in lol. so yeah. =))

  • dzyan

    one thing is the peak(people playing at the same time(7.5M on lol)) and other are the unique mensual players(9M with some smurfs on dota2). LoL has way more players,GG WP . i play dota btw

  • LeagueIsLife

    League is life and Dota 2 is alright. GG wp, no re. Pls.

  • Carl Berg

    Ummm…Lol Sucks man ._. They just Copied Dota 2…If you Argue with my You need to talk to my fist first okay ?

    • Al

      But LoL copied Dota 1… and Dota 2 wasn’t even anywhere near complete by the time LoL was released. But then you could say Dota 1 copied Aeon of Strife, which is the original “MOBA”

      • M4TS

        Then again, you could say LoL stole concepts from DotA 1 without asking for permission, and betrayed the community (Pendragon and Guinsoo).

      • Zennock

        My friend have you heard of the Pendragon accident?

        No?

        http://np.reddit.com/r/DOTA/comments/12zjm6/access_to_the_old_dotaallstarscom_to_be_restored/c70dlon

        Basically Pendragon copied heroe idea from the forum and make them in LoL.

      • yplay

        Ignorant Fool : Don’t you know? That LoL partnered with Steve “Guinsoo” Feak, the previous designer of the popular Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne custom map Defense of the Ancients, and Steve “Pendragon” Mescon, the administrator of the former official support base for the map to develop LoL???

    • Xhapupu

      For all Dota 2 players who says Dota 2 is better than LoL because of graphics, I challenge you to quit Dota 2 and play Skyrim or GTA 5 if that really is the case. eSports wise. Dota 2 TI is SO BORING. I’m a fan of Dota 2 also but I hate how you bash LoL. Higher prize pool doesn’t give you fans. Well LoL concentrated on a bigger venue for a BETTER VIEWING EXPERIENCE rather than higher prize pool because Riot values its fans. in Dota 2, without compendium. I don’t think you could reach even 3M$. Riot gained 660M$ last year. They can even host worlds with prize pool of 250M$. and Dota 1 copied Aeon of Strife. Facebook copied Friendster. Tumblr copied Multiply. If thats your perspective, well that just proves to me that I’m wrong that Dota 2 community is awesome! =)) GOOD DAY SIR!

      • M4TS

        Sup Chang. Aeon Strife wasn’t truly copied by DotA, it was further developed. Before DotA, Aeon Strife was a little costum game no one played. Then came DotA 5.75 and the first good moba was made. Then Pendragon (the fat turd) and Guinsoo betrayed the DotA-community to make more money, and took other people’s ideas over to LoL. After that fact, everyone who played the original MOBAs hated LoL. Then came the cartoon graphics and the low skill level and made it even worse. Much worse, actually.

        People hate on LoL because LoL IS for noobs. I’m not trying to exaggurate that at all. 90% of the LoL community are complete noobs who are horrible at competitive gaming, 9 % are just bad, and 1% are in the other categories.

        • Xhapupu

          low skill level makes it harder to win. it’s like playing rock-paper-scissors. what makes it more exciting because anyone can defeat you. in dota 2. it’s like chess. if you are good, you have more chance of winning because skill level is sky high. im just looking for a game that you can relax OR be a pro. and that is lol. in dota, you can be a pro but you can’t relax because UI is not user friendly. =))

      • Van

        Let’s blast through your bullshit shall we?

        1. Graphics —> the people who claim that Dota 2 is a better game due to graphics are retarded. However, in saying that, Dota 2 does have better graphics than LoL.

        2. E-Sports —> I could turn around and say that every time I watch an LCS match I fall asleep. See what I just did? TI4 wasn’t as exciting as TI3 but that’s to be expected once in a while. It’s not like LoL’s Season Finals were exciting themselves.

        3. Higher Prize Pool —> this was smart on Valve’s part. It brought the community together and the spotlight upon the game for weeks. It showed that Valve were committed to maintaining the game and that the fans, in return, were committed to supporting this. Oh please… what would Riot give to the community for its compendium? A skin or two? They will NEVER give away as much value as Valve gives away in theirs.

        4. The average Dota 2 player spends more money on Dota 2 than LoL players do on LoL. This is funny because in Dota 2 you can only buy “skins” and other non-gameplay affecting items whereas in LoL you can buy champions, rune pages and IP boosts (which help increase the rate of acquisition of such things). Also Dota 2 is simply a side project of Valve’s. Most of their revenue comes from Steam – billions of dollars from that 70%+ share of the online gaming distribution market. :)

        5. DotA’s map layout was inspired by AoS but the gameplay is completely different. There is a jungle, upgradable items, abilities and most of all it’s a PvEvP game while AoS was PvE. That’s like saying Portal 2 is an FPS because it uses a gun.

        You’re an idiot and you’ve just defeated yourself. :)

    • Kanishka Wijesuriya

      Ye Lol copied dota but it was in a more unique way ,,,,btw DOTA copied Heroes of Newarth and much more other games ..LoL Was much more advanced and bettr plus get raped when the new lol patches r out XD

      • argonautslv

        … can’t tell if you’re a troll or you’re just really dumb, but Dota 1 came before Heroes of Newerth, so how could Dota copy HoN? Also, LoL patches keep getting more shit every patch. Also, you said that LoL ”was much more advanced”. are we talking about the same LoL here? My best friend’s kid brother is 11, and he’s silver 2 in league. that just proves how little knowledge/skill it takes to play Leauge…

        • Lethal Fox

          Dude you must be Trolling too. League of Legends does take skill, great decision making, Knowledge. Maybe you need more to be really great at DotA 2 and none to suck at it but that goes without saying about any game.
          His brother probably plays everyday and mains maybe 3 or 4 champions which he is really good at. DotA was a game mainly splayed by children and adults saw how fun it was and started playing it.
          League of Legends is similar but with adults to children as it was easier to learn.
          Everyone drop it now as these games are great in their own ways and play the one you Enjoy more.
          Mine personally is League of Legends.

          • Sivir

            League of Legends is good at one thing: Keeping casuals on League and bringing actual competition to Dota 2 and Smite.

            Thanks League of Casuals. <3

          • Van Ducke

            Sivir is best nickname for your point of view sir

          • Lethal Fox

            How can you claim we are casual gamers. I take league seriously because you have to level up and earn influence points for champions.

            I personally find DotA 2 as more of a fun game where you troll people and enjoy the game. League becomes fun if your winning and hard if your looking.

  • rashzx

    LOL is the best while dota is champions for free and there is no goals in dota

    • spek

      not sure if serious

    • Van

      R.I.P in peace Engrish.

    • Lethal Fox

      LOL has goals from the start while DotA has a level system where when you get very high you have a chance to become a great player and enter tournaments for prize pools.

  • rashzx

    and lol is the best

    • Van

      at sucking.

  • Chris

    LoL has more players and more viewers. And wth the map rework and all the champion reworks and updtaes incoming LOL is far better looking than Dota

    • Lethal Fox

      LoL is run by Riot Games who are making money off of users through RP and Sponsorship’s which contributes to the servers, updates, client and champion patches, etc. I bet DotA 2 has a team as well but they have smaller funding and larger cash pool giveaway.

      • Sivir

        And Riot Games is owned by Tencent. The largest Chinese Internet Company. Have you noticed that a lot of the “updates” are catered toward chinese gaming mechanics?

        League of Casuals isn’t what it was in Season 1 and 2.

        Dota 2 actually has the balls to keep Mobas competitive and not cater to the cries of inferior players. Make the switch.

      • http://yomamasofat.com Sam

        I only hate LoL because of the players I see IRL. Little kids, LITERALLY little kids as in 11-12. 30 mins in the game and no boots, not even the basic ones. *twitch twitch*

    • Van

      Yeah if you’re into shit cartoony then yes.

  • j

    that’s mainly because LoL is easier to learn and has bright vibrant colors IMO

    • Guest

      the trees look like trees from paper mario but in 3DDDD i DONT LIKE the graphics of LOL but dota 2 is good.Plus 50% of the LOL players are chinese or japanese or asian or not from the U.S. they have alot more people to waste time on games over there anyway plu all the russians who dont play on U.S servers.

      • http://chemys.com Pak YU

        Yet your asian neighbor still have more money than you..

      • asdasds

        Have you ever been to school in China or Japan. They barely have free time. They doing calculus 3 by the time they are senior in high school. In America calculus 1 is highest giving some people go to calculus 2(that’s like 2%). That’s just one subject we are talking about. Ignorance people seriously.

        • a random asian guy

          I’m an Asian, you are right we were forced to learn advanced calculus since high school, however not all of us actually good at it. A large proportion of kids nowadays are spoilt and stick to the computer playing games. Most top players in either game are of this kind.

      • why me?

        The thing is that lol is getting a complete texture update soon which looks much better then dota 2. If you want to compare the textuws of lol now compare them to dota 1 with a small upgrade as it was released a bit after dota. Also for those saying lol coppied dota…. nothing on the internet is origi
        nal

      • Sivir

        Majority are Chinese.
        Riot Games is owned by Tencent…the largest internet provider in China.

        You play League in Korea, you get laughed at (true story, travel there and see ;p)

        • yplay

          Koreans Love LoL – I’ve travelled there

  • jake

    Dora is better, the game is more tense. A top play for dots is something that happens that is phonominal. Whilst a league top play is just guy healing at base, and skilling an ability that let’s him leap 3 millimetres.

    • http://chemys.com Pak YU

      Yup true Dora is better than dota…Dora has some insanely good graphics, meanwhile dota have some shiity bland grapics..

      • Van

        You’re an idiot. Graphics =/= art style/art direction/aesthetics. Mind you Dota 2 is actually fought in a battleground while LoL’s is a playground. :)

    • why me?

      Where did you find that play?
      And can i get a link.

  • Hirid

    Why the fuck is it all about numbers what we should be looking at is the facts dota 2 and lol facts and how dota 2 has more history and began the evolution of the moba aka lol and how everyone at riot when lol first began its start admired the work of Dota and not all the statistics. Dota punishments allow game play still lol basicly tells you to fuck off, how spectating is and so far dota takes spectating to a whole new level. Dota 2 has the graphics of a real game were lol has the map drawn by a 3 year old. first blood in lol means you win the game unless someone feeds or leaves, first blood in dota 2 is just a short boost Team work in dota is neede and in lol team work is bullshit to everyone. Dota dosent have the best community but who really gives a flying fuck. in dota ranked games are watched all the time to make sure there played fair and honest if you dc in a ranked game of dota and it was just internet problems they fix it lol makes it a lose for you and 1 lose goes a long way. you may have to work for your char in lol but in dota you get to play anyone any time and dota has more game modes to go with these characters. dota is always looking for new ways to update the game lol just thinks there fucking perfect.(dota recently changed alot of there characters and the map lol: added features to the map finally). dota has counter picks yes counter picks just as lol does you just got to figure them out(takes a mind of a smart person not a lol player). dota 2 lets you pick counters lol just fuck you hard with that shit. so rethink lol players numbers dont always count numbers cause if you count number more then 66% of moba players really say that dota is BETTER then lol. have a nice day

    • http://chemys.com Pak YU

      Im so fresh,suck my nuts.

    • larry

      That’s because statistics are easy to quote, whereas your arguments are just opinions, fluffs without any concrete studies. Sure you can argue for your stand about dota 2 being more historical and stuff, but honestly master both games before judging it, if you can’t even hit gold in league then by right you’re trash in that game that has no real understanding about it, just play your dota 2 and learn to find proof before you state your arguments.

    • why me?

      You have obviously not played lol. First blood dosent mean gg wp as it is very possible to make comebacks even when your super far behind with teamwork and skill. While in dota a early lead can easily lead can easily lead to a easy win with the gold penalties on death
      Ex:4v5
      Also counters hurt but skilled players can make outplays and win

      Also i play both lol and dota so ik what im talking about unlike you.

      • NeverMore

        Woah man with patch 6.82 you REALLY can’t make an argument about comebacks being rare in dota.

        • Injexion29

          Actually, comebacks are all the more viable with 6.82. The changes to the map, plus the Bounty Rune, will allow you to come back from even the most dire of situations, as long as you have good teamwork.

          • Van

            That’s what he was saying lol… He said that since 6.82 nobody can claim that comebacks are “rare”, thus he is saying that it’s more likely now than ever.

      • gtfo

        you dont know shit kid. can obv tell your a casual fangay

  • Zennock

    More people doesnt mean a better game.

    Its like eating at MacDonald (For LoL) and eating at a high class restaurant (For Dota 2).

    • Fernando Pires

      That’s a very poor comparison. Many high class restaurants can be more unsanitary than MacDonalds. Besides, where I’m standing, Dota 2 is more like Burger King, not a high class restaurant. The arrogance of Dota 2 players and fanboys is off-putting.

      • Zennock

        *Many high class restaurants can be more unsanitary than MacDonalds.”

      • Van

        Except that Dota 2 is a very well made product by a legendary game developer. It’s more than your typical Burger King.

  • Mat67

    Last month unique players in Dota2 : 9.562.254
    BITCH PLEASE
    Stats from the Dota 2 menu

    • why me?

      But thats not the ammounr of concurrent players… if you compared the amount of uniqie players in lol to dota dota would still have less….

      • Sivir

        Not really anymore.
        Riot doesn’t post unique statistics on a yearly basis because numbers have indeed plummeted after Season 2…conveniently when Dota 2 came out of beta.

        League isn’t as strong in Korea as Dota 2 is.
        League is strongest in China…likely because Riot Games is owned by the Chinese company Tencent.

        League is a good casual alternative for new MoBA players.
        Definitely leaves the better players to go to Dota 2, Smite, or even Strife (which is REALLY good btw)

        • Lethal Fox

          Thing is that most players of DotA I find are from Korea and most lol being china and Europe. There are dotA and LOL players respectively in the popular areas just one is more common. Here in South Africa dotA has become popular because of local server. I just live with ping because I feel dotA graphics can crowd your screen and make fighting confusing. I like league more because of cleaner areas and lanes.

  • gwy

    I think LOL is for the more casual players or those who enjoy grinding for stuff. DOTA 2 is for those who are looking to get competitive. You go and play against other players to “test your mettle”. Also, your level decides the turnout of the game in LOL. Obviously, whoever has the best runes and masteries has the higher chance of winning. In DOTA 2, you could do level 1 against level 30 and still have a chance of winning if you know what you’re doing. DOTA 1, I think, is where most of the players are. It’s more accessible than DOTA 2. I’m from a country where a lot of people go for WC3 DOTA rather than LOL or DOTA 2.

  • Danit599
    • Van

      I never knew LoL players could be funny!

  • test test

    wtf, dota 2 more popular than lol, just check the website. Lol era is over, dota 2 has more awards than lol, dota 2 more amazing than lol, the grafic of dota 2 is pretty good, but grafic in lol more like cartoon, dota 2 event more fun like yearbeast and greeveling.

  • Van Ducke

    wow dota 2 sux
    no positioning whole screen spell range

    • casualfucks

      cry more noob l2p

  • Kiwi

    You realize that while yes the top Dota 2 players make more, the average league players make more then the average dota 2 players, league is trying to create a ecosystem where all teams make good money and Dota is more about top survive very well and bottom teams are getting paid nothing in comparison to top teams. And League already said why they did not crowd fund a huge prize pool (which would of obviously beat Dotas as league has more players, not opinion that is fact fanboys) because they wanted to keep it a steady 2m and not do a huge pool and every year have to get the pool bigger and bigger…. Regardless of which game you play who cares what this writer or i say if you love Dota that’s awesome, if you love league thats awesome too, go play your game and stop wanting other people to say your game is better than the other one.. its a never ending war.

    • Van

      Wrong. Both systems are currently only beneficial to a handful of teams. The difference is that Dota 2’s system is more natural, it’s crowd funded for the most part. So long as there’s interest in the game there will be tournaments.

      For this, Dota 2 will likely outlive LoL.

  • Tasik

    there are tons of smurf-acounts in LOL. you have to devide numer of
    accounts with 5 to get the amount of actual players. hardly anyone
    creates several accounts in DOTA 2

  • JohnnyJohnJohn

    Popularity does not equate to the over all performance of a game. DoTA far excells over its competitors simply on the fact I don’t have to spend money to play the game to its full potential. This idea that the heroes in LOL HON etc are priced based on difficulty is a lie. It’s based on popularity and strength. However a strong hero can require a lot of skill to master. I tried playing both Lol and HON and quit as soon as I tried it all felt like a cheap money stealing rip off of a MOBA legend. You cannot call a game balanced and requiring some one to earn using the full roster of characters. I have spent about $30 in DoTA 2 for cosmetics, why? Because it’s a better game plain and simple. Using money to better yourself or give yourself a “more difficult” (stronger) hero is bullshit. It’s like the new Rainbow 6 game where I went in expecting fun and discovered trash talking 12 year olds who thought they were hot shiz just because they spent their allowances on way better weapons. Pay for play or any game that can’t be played for pure leisure and enjoyment is a waste, it’s for suckers. I’m a DoTA fan boy and proud of it been playing since DoTA 6.54b (DoTA 1) and I’d pass the game on to my children one day.