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Did the MSSA Organize a Fake International Match? [Update]

Mexicandota

So, yesterday I told you about the international friendly between South Africa and Mexico in which South Africa utterly destroyed the Mexican team. It was a crushing defeat, and there seemed to be no real competition at all. Now it appears that this might not have been the actual Mexican team.

I spoke with Colin Webster, and will be updating this article with the official Mexican federation details ASAP. However, here is what we know so far:

  • The MSSA contacted their Mexican counterparts to arrange an International Friendly
  • The Mexican team that was brought forward was clearly not of the same caliber as expected of national teams
  • Accusations are now flying that the team members were not actually Mexican, that they are actually LoL players with no Dota 2 experience, and that the MSSA are a bunch of frauds for presenting this team as the Mexican national team.

Once I can give you more details about the Mexican Federation and their selection criteria, I will do so. However, please have a look at these players:

According to Steam, Ranpkr and Horusx are both from San Jose, Costa Rica. However, I cannot verify if this is their location, if they perhaps live in Costa Rica but are originally Mexican, or if they are illegitimately playing on the Mexican team. At this point, it is just wild accusation and conjecture. However, to accuse these players of having no Dota 2 experience is quite out of hand – with their least experienced player sitting at 738 hours of gameplay, these guys may play like n00bs, but they certainly aren’t inexperienced.

That said, the onus is now on the MSSA to prove that they are working together with real international federations. As much as they are disorganized, inefficient and often unprofessional, I do not believe that the MSSA would deliberately defraud the eSports community. Perhaps the equivalent organisation in Mexico is just as derided by the local Mexican eSports community, leading to their flame wars. Just look at how South African gamers respond to their own South African team selections.

Update: We are still waiting for an official press release from the MSSA. However, they informed me telephonically that they went through the International eSports Federation (IeSF) to find a partner federation from another country. We are a bit hesitant about the validity of an organization such as the IeSF – the listings for the UK federation goes to a dead domain while the USA links to the WOGL which seems to do nothing; there is no link to MLG or other established eSports leagues.

That said, the MSSA went through this quasi-official body to find their Mexican counterparts. While my Spanish is not as good as it once was, it appears that there is no listing for a Dota 2 team on that site. Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, but there is no mention of Dota 2 tournaments, qualifiers or other events. Furthermore, I cannot find any mention of the match against South Africa on their webpage or Facebook page.

We will continue to keep you updated as we get new information

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Author:Zoe Hawkins

Wielding my lasso of truth, I am the combination of nerd passion and grammar nazi. I delve into all things awesome and geek-tastic. I believe people should stop defining themselves and just enjoy playing games, so let's get on with it!
  • Sargon

    The comments posted on your last article was a circus. Good following up here. Interesting thus far.. any comments from the SA team players? I suspect they may have some insights.

    Hopefully this doesn’t give local eSports another Everest to climb.

    • Purple_Dragon

      Haha yes, a lot of people got their panties in a wad.

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        And we have no internet in Africa it seems

        • Sargon

          Did you see the one racist comment about Africans? Sjoe. So much anger.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            No? Really?

            Link?

          • Sargon

            I’m on a pad. Will cp later. But it was on that article from yesterday and I reported it.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Oh really? damn some people are pathetic hey?

        • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

          Wait.. we’re in Africa?

  • Admiral Chief of Rivia

    Eish

  • Don

    I would wait for MSSA’s official response before making dubious and inflammatory accusations like you’ve just made.

    • http://www.lazygamer.net Gavin Mannion

      We phoned.. they weren’t ready.

      The article will be updated when the official response is made.

      What’s the dubious part of the article?

      • Sargon

        Apparently solid investigative journalism is dubious in the gaming scene. Lol.

      • Don

        Insinuating things like: “Perhaps the equivalent organisation in
        Mexico is just as derided by the local Mexican eSports community,
        leading to their flame wars. Just look at how South African gamers respond to their own South African team selections.”

        No need to draw conclusions about the Mexicans by basing your premises on the South Africans.

        • Sargon

          You do understand that one line of speculation (CLEARLY) marked as such doesn’t support your own position. Again.. that’s journalism.. providing context and comparison. Plus.. I’d agree. Perhaps all dots gamers rage the same way. Seems to be a trend when I play too…

          • Airborne

            Don is either nurturing a chip on his shoulder, or is an MSSA lackey.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            What you said.

          • Brady miaau

            MSSA Lackey, I think.

            Because the comments defy logic, I suspect there is some stake in this.

          • Hammersteyn

            Agreed.

          • Sageville

            Guys!

            We should be shutting up and only report on things we know about!
            As we aren’t MSSA we shouldn’t be commenting about MSSA, but rather just take the official info they give us and accept it as truth.

          • Sargon

            BP has no comment about the oil spill. So don’t report at all? Nooooowhere does the above article speak for the MSSA. It only discusses past issues and that we’re waiting for a comment.

          • Sageville

            Dood, are you gonna make me pull out /Sarcasm tags?

          • Sargon

            Lol. Sorry. Sarcasm is notoriously difficult to read via text. Especially when Don is around and actualy tows this sort of line. :P

          • Brady miaau

            But I did not state a fact.

            “but rather just take the official info they give us and accept it as truth.”
            We are going to have to agree to disagree. The day we are not allowed to have an opinion on a public body, that represents our interests in any way shape or form, will be a truly sad day. Sorry, not on (now this is a general and extremely serious comment about public bodies in general in SA and around the world)

            I thought this was a bit of fun, get the community out, share opinions. Right or wrong. Most people here are respectful and sharing ideas.

            Is this not the internet way?

        • Brady miaau

          No, that was a question posed. The word perhaps is the key here. Zoe seems to be an accomplished journalist and I have never seen an opinion not marked as such.

          I think the young lady is wondering if the situation over there is as screwed up as it seemingly is here, which may have led to confusion.

    • Airborne

      Really? How do you get “dubious”. I would say that Zoe displays proper journalism ethics. Please take your meds before posting!

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        Now now, don’t act in the same manner. We are all civilized and such. ;)

        • Airborne

          Aye, Aye Admiral, it just gets me pissed when they dont read properly!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Agreed, but now is the time to act gentlemanly and show em how “real” Saffas are ;)

          • Airborne

            Done!

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            This thread needs a beer or two.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Did someone say BEER? *Spills beer on newly cleaned LG T-shirt

          • Brady miaau

            Good on you!

      • PS4H1P5T4

        Zoe is teh bestest. She tells it like it is continuously backing the righteous console(PS4)!!!

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          Foxy, is that you?

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          You forgot to change your nick to ps4hipst4 :/

          • Sargon

            Lol.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      Don are you working for MSSA?

  • TiMsTeR1033

    What a shame man, so basically we pulled a Bafana Bafana and got the points in the game but still ended up empty handed….

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Indeed Tanya, indeed. Hollow victory.

      • Brady miaau

        Um, why Tanya? Was Tamara taken?

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          I believe he has 1 more of his 3 trials to complete before being allowed a name with 3 syllables.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            We are still deciding on the physical rite of passage. Suggestions most welcome!

  • Emilio Zapata

    Thanks a lot for this Lazygamer, specially to you Zoe, big props. Im currently searching for our “eSports organization” wich i sadly think doesnt even exist (at least not one supporting Dota 2) but if i can get ANYTHING i will try to make you gys know. Again thanks.

  • jay

    1 step forward. 3 steps back.

    • Sargon

      And then do the Macarena…

  • Mx Neo

    at least now everyone knows that this match was a total fake.

    • Sargon

      That isn’t what the article says at all…

      • granthinds

        See? The article implies it and we’re going to have idiots running around with pitchforks for nothing.

        • Sargon

          This is one of the ragers from yesterday reaffirming the party line. Go check that article and comments section out, though.

  • granthinds

    Out of interest, where did these allegations arise? I assume you did some investigation on it’s origins.

    • Don

      Basically the Mexicans sucked so bad that they are deemed fakes.

      • granthinds

        That’s unfair assumption.

        • Matthew Holliday

          Unfair, but thats how hard they got stomped.

          That, and a few things were mentioned on the dota2lounge.com website about them all being from Costa Rica, and accusations from Mexicans in general.

        • Matthew Holliday

          Unfair, but thats how hard they got stomped.

          That, and a few things were mentioned on the dota2lounge.com website about them all being from Costa Rica, and accusations from Mexicans in general.

          • granthinds

            NOW we’re getting somewhere… Where are those sources of information in this article?

          • Jonah Cash

            Not all articles have sources, some are speculative!! And are informing you that they are busy investigating!! Why are you here??????

          • granthinds

            I dunno any more, getting caught up in a whirlwind of comments! I’m not saying the article is FALSE. I’m saying how it’s gone about is unhelpful. Also, not a fan of speculative articles that the readers are taking as fact.

          • Jonah Cash

            Then the readers should get higher IQ’s!!!!!!!!!! If you take this article for a fact you are in for some serious problems in your life!!!!

          • granthinds

            Agreed!!!

          • Jakster

            Why publish a half-baked article? This could be big, but now there’s more speculation than fact.

          • Jonah Cash

            That is how journalism works!! I didn’t even know about this till I got on this article, so now I know there is something off. And later when it is update I will know more, but now I know to come back and check what the story really is!!

          • Sargon

            Eggactly. ;)

          • Jakster

            Or it could have been BREAKING NEWS! But now it’s more of an LNN7 than LNEWS.

            Will tune in later.

          • Jonah Cash

            OK Don, this isn’t getting us anywhere… You just keep clinging to the notion that journalism only works when there is facts that can be proved in a court of law… That should work out very well for you in the long run… Cheers

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Don is Jakster…lol that troll

          • Sageville

            I don’t follow all the DOTA blogs or Facebookings, I come here for that sort of info even if it is speculative, the article did disclaim the story was mid-investigation.

            If we all waited for “Finalized Investigations” before seeing news we would still be waiting for info about Nkandla or Zuma Spy Tapes or Text Book scandals etc.

          • granthinds

            NOW we’re getting somewhere… Where are those sources of information in this article?

      • Sageville

        I thought mexican commentators were saying they never heard of these players representing their country,

      • Ultimo_Cleric N7

        The fact that 2 of them are probably from Costa Rica is a small hint…..

    • Sargon

      See article from yesterday. Many people came to rage.

      • granthinds

        A few frivolous comments (not cited and not sourced) and it’s a conspiracy?

        • Sargon

          No. But it’s worth looking into, no?

          • granthinds

            Ye, go for it. Write a sensational article about it based on rumours with an unknown origin, maybe not so much.

          • Don

            Oh noes! You shall be downvoted below the depths of the internet!

          • granthinds

            If I get downvoted for saying something true but unpopular, i’ll deal with it. I’ll watch as the story unfolds, as of yet, as a reader, there is no solid proof or source of the allegations.

          • Sargon

            And the article clearly points that out, no? This is why we read…

          • granthinds

            Then why write the article in the first place?! “CliffyB left Epic due to Complications with his wife – We’ve heard it online but are awaiting sources” – That’s tabloid journalism.

          • Sargon

            It’s only tabloid if its about entertainment. This is clearly investigative. Again.. see Tour de France. Over any race of the last.. I dunno.. decade.

          • granthinds

            Not accurate. Tabloid news covers murders and rape, see The Voice. I’m hoping that there’s more to back this up.

          • Sargon

            No. My bad. Unclear. Tabloid is about selling entertainment. Make it big. Go over the top. Zoey isn’t misrepresenting anything or anyone and is using comments on her article, and probably elsewhere, to inform us of her investigation. She cites no gossip and there is no speculation other than that dota players probably all rage. Journalism.

          • Jakster

            Agreed.

          • granthinds

            Then why write the article in the first place?! “CliffyB left Epic due to Complications with his wife – We’ve heard it online but are awaiting sources” – That’s tabloid journalism.

          • Sageville

            Oh I see your angle now….

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            You do have a point, cant be downvoted for looking for a source article.

          • Sargon

            How is it sensational…?
            It basically provides context, sets the question, and informs you of going forward to get more info. Sound structure…

          • granthinds

            If the Stormers are accused of taking performance enhancing drugs because someone read it on News24 or received an SMS, it might be worth investigating the lead, but publishing a story on it would be considered sensational. This is not journalism. If the story is true, there should be more evidence of the sources of these allegations.

          • Sargon

            It would be journalism. See Tour de France.

          • granthinds

            They had inside sources. There’s a difference. That story was rather complex and a few people came to stand at his trial against him. There’s more than enough to justify a story out of it.

          • Jonah Cash

            Back in 1997 when the allegations started against Armstrong they had nothing but rumours!! That is why he only lost his titles in 2012…. So yeah the Mexican trial might start later, now we are just being informed that there are rumours and it is being investigated!!

          • Sargon

            Not just Lance. Every allegation against all the cyclists.

          • Sargon

            It would be journalism. See Tour de France.

          • Jonah Cash

            Do you really think that no one would publish a story if they got a sms saying the Stormers took drugs??? Dude do you read newspapers??? I will bet you money that someone would put that on their front page and just finish up with we will tell you more when we know more….
            This is the real world, and no I a not from UNTAG, but still you can come out now!!

          • granthinds

            I’d be just as infuriated if that happened :/

          • Jonah Cash

            Then you really should never pick a newspaper up….. You would absolutely hate it!!!!!!

          • Sargon

            I can see the future of weather reports.

            Sorry folks. We couldn’t speculate on where the hurricane was going because we didn’t have all the data yet. As soon as we know for sure, we will let you know. Maybe you’ll have.. I don’t know.. A two minute warning? Instead of ten hours?

            See. I can also use ridiculous analogies. PHI 101.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            said like a BOSS!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            LOL @ UNTAG :P

            Best LS movie ever

          • Jonah Cash

            I have it on PVR…. I check that scene almost every week!!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Someone borrowed my DVD, and its now missing. Found it on Takealot…

          • Jonah Cash

            That is a must have for any collection!!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            with friends like those …..

          • Jonah Cash

            Do you really think that no one would publish a story if they got a sms saying the Stormers took drugs??? Dude do you read newspapers??? I will bet you money that someone would put that on their front page and just finish up with we will tell you more when we know more….
            This is the real world, and no I a not from UNTAG, but still you can come out now!!

    • http://www.lazygamer.net Gavin Mannion

      The allegations came from the Mexican DOTA Facebook group backed up by two of their best known clans SUMA and Team Quetzal who have thousands of likes on FB.

      They rightly pointed out that some of these Mexican players don’t appear to be Mexican and that they have a lot of more experienced players.

      Also people in the DOTA community remarked early on that the Mexican team appeared to be amateur and the entire thing didn’t feel right as everyone expected better from a Mexican team.

      • Emilio Zapata

        we just want to know who decided 5 random to the community guys should represent Mex in the showmatch! (seriously our dota community is actually small and most of the ppl know each other, im not kidding NOT A SINGLE GUY knows any of this 5 mex players, just saying…)

        • Ultimo_Cleric N7

          Yeah sounds a little fishy to me.

  • hairyknees

    I have 2000+ hours logged :) I would honestly expect players of their caliber to have way more than I do! Not to take anything from the SA side, but it was a walkover. Was that really the best Mexico had to offer? Even the betting sites favorited Mexico over SA, implying that they must be fairly good. They weren’t, it was a roflstomp o_O

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Heh, dota slut you are :P

      • hairyknees

        ^_^ for sure!

    • Sargon

      I haven’t even logged that many hours.. doing anything. Madness. You must really love that game. And not sleep. Like.. ever. :)

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        MattyFeeg is the OG of Dota yo!

        I constantly see him on in, its my way of knowing if he is all right.

      • hairyknees

        Haha :P I love the game! It’s not 2000 hours played though. Steam counts the time you are in game. So that includes time spent watching games and searching for them. Still, I do have 1500 games played :x games go anywhere between 20-80 minutes!

    • Matthew Holliday

      90% of pro players dota 2 hours arent amazing, they logged the hours on warcraft dota though.

    • Matthew Holliday

      90% of pro players dota 2 hours arent amazing, they logged the hours on warcraft dota though.

    • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

      2000 hours is gangsta, Matty. :o

      • hairyknees

        I should probably get a social life in real life? :P BUT I SOCIALISE WITH MY FRIENDS ONLINE ALL THE TIME! *cry face*

  • Francisco Rafael Gonzalez Mila

    when a real mexican team is ready , you will se the truth , fucking nabs

    • Emilio Zapata

      please dont mind this one, yes we are a raging race but we do actually appreciate the effort of looking for the truth in here

      • Ultimo_Cleric N7

        Lol, thanks for clarifying dude ^^

      • Her Highness the Hipster

        for sure – looking to report what really happened. still investigating to get to the truth.

    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      You mad bro? Any solid proof?

      • Francisco Rafael Gonzalez Mila

        yea im mad brah , playing with random scum and calling it a friendly pro match , ROFL , go worship mandella or something NABS

        • Robert Infy Hart

          Please leave Papa out of this :)

        • Airborne

          It’s “Mandela” dude, and the Random Scum has your Mexican Flag… What does that make u?

          • yaya

            Well leave real mexican players out of this, and just ignore the one talking shit, he is shit… and doesnt represent the rest of Mexico…. thanks

        • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

          Awww , can’t generate a logical retort so you have to bring in a humanitarian and spout nasty lil names. Your anger is geared towards LG and MSSA , all the site did was report on the match. Should I get someone to rub your ear and whisper sweet sounds of woosah?

          • Sargon

            This retort made my day. WOOSAH, motha flucker. Lol.

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          A quick look at your profile, and some (all) of your comments are bile and hate speech filled.

          You do your country a disservice in acting the way you do.

          • Francisco Rafael Gonzalez Mila

            You have so much free time, this is not about countrys , is about dota scene , and miss information noob , im not talking in the name of Mèxico , no ones is doing that, ROFL

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Is it even possible for you to utter a sentence without saying something negative, or the word noob?

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            He’s too busy rolling on the the floor

          • Francisco Rafael Gonzalez Mila

            im mad bro , c ya nab

          • Emilio Zapata

            you all stfu please, ALL.

            Hes obviously raging, just dont reply, its not worth it guys :/

            Im sorry and i can only say not everyone is like that (most of the time lol) just move on, seriously this fight is not worth it :)

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Would not call it a fight though :P

          • Emilio Zapata

            just dont reply to him, pwease? ty

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            The voice of reason here. Do not feed the troll people.

          • Jonah Cash

            What not a fight??? Goes back to room to put away battle armour….

          • Francisco Rafael Gonzalez Mila

            You have so much free time, this is not about countrys , is about dota scene , and miss information noob , im not talking in the name of Mèxico , no ones is doing that, ROFL

  • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

    Besides the Mexican Dota 2 players reputation which is at stake. If it is true it will be a major setback for local esports. I don’t think MSSA would be that shady and would jeopardize the quickly growing local esports scene

  • RinceTheSwineStains

    Is it me, or when DOTA articles go up a whole breed of angry motha fluckers rear their ugly heads?

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      hehe, fluckers you say?

      • RinceTheSwineStains

        Yeah. It’s early (on second coffee) and the water is back man, Yeah, drip, drip, drip. So I thought I’d start softly with the swearing, because you know that by 12 I’m going to be a screwed up wreak of a person…

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          How is the babelas?

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Oh, all good today! I was chipper any everything until I got on the train. Some lunatic stood next to me chewing gum with his mouth open. Little says ‘fluck you’ then someone breathing immitation orange into your face while you try and read consider phlebas.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Did you tell him to get some Culture? :D

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Bwahahaha ;)

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Bwahahaha ;)

          • Brady miaau

            Ok, there are not enough upvotes for that!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            if you took the train in joburg you would die man!! you would DIE!!!

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Ha! I raise you Shanghai rush hour mate! I did that for a year, JHB pah!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            excpet you were no surrounded by hundreds of dodgy black guys and its only you thats white…. If wearing bussiness clothes sooner or later you will be robbed, or stabbed or both…. Happened to a friend 17 times for a cell phone…

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            No, I was just pushed into the train by professional ‘train packers’ twice a day. And ‘well that escalated quickly’…

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            I always got given a wide berth on the train because I reeked of ciggie smoke. That’s what you got for working in an office with 6 people who smoke & zero ventilation.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            they smoke in office?

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            This was back in the good old days when it was still allowed. Just after they invented the wheel :(

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I remember when people still smoked in malls!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Dude, not ayoba to post that. And not the place for that type of comment!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            eish… I never win… Just pointing the truth out there… I got nothing against African people man, just train stations in joburg are dodgy for everyone. In Capetown they are alot safer… *to anyone who reads this I am not a racist of any kind and have utmost respect for all africans*

          • Jakster

            *slow clap*

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Rather just say that train stations in JHB is dodgy and leave it at that.

            Moving on. We need to find you a trial of the flesh

          • TiMsTeR1033

            Indeed, then this torture can end….

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            End? Oh no, the torture just levels up ;)

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I find it ironic how I wasnt even in Admirals crosshairs till I won comment of the week. *sings* if i could tirn back time!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Oh, it was not that at all Tanya, not that at all…

          • TiMsTeR1033

            then explain oh wise grand master..

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Rince hit the nail on the head

          • TiMsTeR1033

            so you only hunt the chosen few…. Hmmm I feel better now but at the same time very afraid of how many times I will be insulted, random thought Id of hated to be a kid dissing you at school be dissed seven ways from sunday… I give you that man your very quick with the wit..

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Its not dissing, its shaping you to become a man ;)
            Tough love and all

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I think Its different, My boss makes me a man everyday dealing with his crap.. Graphic design in signage industry is a kak one man… Stress unreal at times.

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            My buddy is in the same boat, the stories he tells sometimes heh

          • TiMsTeR1033

            you have no idea! I had to make these 3 score boards other day and add all these school names and shit and have crap load of other work and they change their minds sooo much and then yday be like “need them installed on wednesday”. Rewarding industry but stressful as hell

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            You don’t get it. Those who haven’t won comment of the week don’t deserve to be in his crosshairs!

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            I only hunt worthy targets. Like Rince, Deon, Darryl etc

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            darryl is a worthy target? 0_o

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Aye, like hunting a wabbit. Easy prey, but still so much fun

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            This is true. And the whole rolling him in tar and rolling him in feathers at him is kindda fun…

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            lol, indeed

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I could do worse but Id be banned for one id do…. twisted so very twisted thoughts at night

          • Sageville

            I made comment of the week once, all the fame got to me, so now I just post crap.

            Pretty much happens to all of us.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Perhaps the trial of poop?

          • Brady miaau

            Yeah, but I am African. So, presumably, are most of the posters on this site.

            Not a big stress, just keep that in mind, other people think like that (well, I do and I am, in this instance, other people)

          • Ultimo_Cleric N7

            Not your week dude…..

          • TiMsTeR1033

            if you took the train in joburg you would die man!! you would DIE!!!

          • Brady miaau

            Good book. Enjoy it.

            Terrible gum chewing, smell. Urg. I hate that.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Yeah, digging it so far.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Oh, all good today! I was chipper any everything until I got on the train. Some lunatic stood next to me chewing gum with his mouth open. Little says ‘fluck you’ then someone breathing immitation orange into your face while you try and read consider phlebas.

    • Airborne

      Yeah… scary aint it?

      • RinceTheSwineStains

        It really is. I have only watched people play the game, from behind the safety of a reinforced sofa while wearing a helmet. They scare me man!

        • Sargon

          I used to play DoTa 2. Then I took a Huskar to my face. Dominated.

    • Sargon

      That could be a Borderlands baddie. Badass Motha Flucker incoming! Lol.

      • RinceTheSwineStains

        I like that. I suppose when you kill them, the loot they drop is anger wrapped up in Rage, packaged as ‘fluck you noob!’? :)

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          perfect for Krieg heh

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          perfect for Krieg heh

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Totally!

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Totally!

        • Sargon

          I just bought Krieg and this scenario would be AWESOME. Lol.

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Haha! Snap @disqus_DoEH3TsffU:disqus

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Haha! Snap @disqus_DoEH3TsffU:disqus

          • Matthew Holliday

            Just hit 72 on my Siren.
            Let the farming commence.
            50 kills sofar on Hunter Hellquist and still no Bee drop =/

        • Sargon

          I just bought Krieg and this scenario would be AWESOME. Lol.

        • Kromas

          I remember when all you wanted for a gift was BACON! :P

      • Matthew Holliday

        already exists, enter Flyboy, all bark, no bite:

    • Hammersteyn

      I thought COD fanboys were bad.. Good heavens. Don’t touch me on my DOTA.

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        XD

      • RinceTheSwineStains

        I fear most of these people have to touch their own DOTA’s for want of love. Hang on, 0-O #foreverSP

        • Hammersteyn

          Bwahaha

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          lol

        • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

          LOOOOOOOL!!

    • hairyknees

      YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH ABOUT DOTA!

      I mean… <3 :D

      • RinceTheSwineStains

        I, I.. I… 0_O

        • hairyknees

          Hahaha I joke I joke :) but I do think that if this happened in any other game, angry motha fluckers would be present regardless. The Internet is a dark place :(

          • RinceTheSwineStains

            Hehe, Got your joke ;) Agreed. Very dark place!

  • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful
    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      LIES, she wants to EAT HIM

      :P

      • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

        Eating is just another form of love :)

        • TiMsTeR1033

          this could go sooo bad

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Gosh your mind is dirty lol … or maybe mine is

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      LIES, she wants to EAT HIM

      :P

    • Brady miaau

      Ah man. I want another cat now!

      See what you did?

      Baby due end November and now I want another kitten as well! Dammit! Wife might not be thrilled.

      also, she is stopping work and spending, say, R4 – 5K on a cat may be a bit unwise.

      • TiMsTeR1033

        congrats man!

        • Brady miaau

          thanks, bit worried, never imagined having children!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I have soon to be 4 year old girl, doesnt live with me though and wife now thinks she is pregent… Plus side you learn alot of patience man! alot! and you forget how life was ever different… changes you man… But just dont forget about your love for gaming, will come in handy when your stressed out :)

          • Brady miaau

            I certainly hope so!

      • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

        Lol sorry man….just spreading some love. My cat is pregnant so will be having some cute kitties soon … sorry to rub it in :P

        EDIT: Congratulations :)

        • TiMsTeR1033

          what kind of cat? or colour? I love cats man

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Not sure of breed, I would like to say Chartreux , it’s very fancy though lol but its a dark grey fluffy cat

          • Brady miaau

            That is a fairly rare breed!

            and totally awesome, nice colouring, nice temperament. Man.

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Extremely nice temperament, calm and very loving. Mine seems to be really greedy too.lol

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I got this cat at work… looks half persian thing is greedy as hell lol

          • Brady miaau

            for food or attention?

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Lol Food, greedy bugger. I swear my expenses are those of a man with a child lol

          • Brady miaau

            Cats are just the best!

            my wife calls it therapy, you come home and one the cats wants attention and purrs at you. Just makes the day seem that little bit better

          • TiMsTeR1033

            apparently cats purrs can send postive energy towards us and makes us feel better. as you said. :)

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          You in CT?

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Yes I am. Lol trying to recruit some kittens?

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Indeed, been wanting to try a new recipe

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            What do you have currently then?

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Two dogs

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Two dogs and one cat…….that’s a good recipe………….lol

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Making something for the special man in your life… Geoff?

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Hehe, if only, it seems he has forsaken meeee

        • Brady miaau

          Awesome!

          We normally get pedigree cats, from breeders, and those are fixed before you get them. So I have not had the joy of little baby cats in my house for, um, 20 years.

          My wife wants to breed with Scottish Folds (see Avatar) at some point in the future, which will be interesting. I understand breeding cats (and dogs) is a loss leader, a labour of love.

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Neither have I. My wife has experience though. I just wana roll around with cute kittens lol

            and man, Folds….they are beyond cute…….goodluck!! they will probably make you eternally happy lol

          • Brady miaau

            Yeah, but buying breeding cats costs a fair bit, so perhaps year after next.

            In our dreams, but sometimes they come true

          • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

            Hopefully they do :)

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        Just adopt one dude

        • Brady miaau

          Cat or Child? :)

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Cat, more fun to create child than adopt one…

          • Jonah Cash

            THIS!!!!! Hahahahahaha

          • Rudi Lemmer

            Both

    • Her Highness the Hipster

      damn – now you’ve made me broody for another kitty. so cute! but my two cats already demand all my love and attention… but, but, KITTY!

      • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

        hehe, 3 cats won’t be too much…..*whispers*go for it……..

  • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful
  • Mx Neo

    There wasnt any tournament in dota 2 mexican community where this suspected players appears before as a winner.

    Here we see a lot mexican tournaments before but this ”Hatblade” team presented as the Mexican team was not in any of the tournaments. they also called themselves LOL players unexperienced on dota 2 pro scene.

    so from this part we dont know how they get so far to be presented as the best mexican team , thats why the rage , so the first thing that comes in our minds is that the MSSA used them to make it easy.

  • Hammersteyn

    I still get a kick out of their website. Even it that looks fake! http://www.mindsportsa.co.za/

    • Admiral Chief of Rivia

      Wow, that’s really, something else

      • Hammersteyn

        Who made that piece of crap? Athletics SA probably has a better webpage :-/

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          *goes off to look*

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            http://www.athletics.org.za/

            I can see some tax money there…

          • Her Highness the Hipster

            wonder if the guys who tendered to build the Bloem govt site for R10mil did that one, too :P

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            …was thinking the exact same thing!

    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      Most innovative website ever. taking minilism to a new level

  • Hammersteyn

    LOL @ one of the Facebook comments :

    Roy Jiménez Cuevas All
    of you are just a kind of joke for us, like I said before, no one in
    whole Mexico have any knowledge of this “Mexican” Roster, you only take
    some random player from Costa Rica and Mexico and tagged like if that
    team represent us. FAKE MATCH, FAKE TEAM. BTW the most funny issue here
    is the title: “annihilates” LOL, wherever you want a real mexican team
    can beat your “PRO” team .

    • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

      Butt hurt alert

      • Emilio Zapata

        Yes we Mexicans are not perfect, we have a shit ton of ragers including myself, i already thanked your guys at Lazygamers for the trouble and the will to seach for the truth about this showmatch, just do your part guys, dont start flaming and i promise ill try to stop the flamming from the other side or the ocean ;-;

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          What a trooper. Good man :)

        • Umar Final Fantasy 15 Hopeful

          :) will honor your request kind sir :)

        • Mx Neo

          everyone of us will stop to rage when the truth comes.

          but right now no one knows how they called themselves as the best mexican players when the funny fact is that they are not even mexicans.

        • Her Highness the Hipster

          as per the update, you ever hear of these guys? http://www.esports.mx/

          • Emilio Zapata

            not even once, im not kidding :S

          • Emilio Zapata

            nope! they dont even have Dota 2 as a listed game, and if you go to their FB page their last post is from November!

  • Ultimo_Cleric N7

    While this article might cause a Nerd-pocalypse in SA, there is some good news…..Zoe, I think you will probably be getting the “Most comments” award on Friday. Whoop whoop!!

    • Her Highness the Hipster

      yes, because that’s why i cover eSports – to get most comments :P

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        ( . )( . ) on Friday?

        • Her Highness the Hipster

          only if i am BATMAN, not for most comments. and i’m not getting batman this week – no where even close!

          • http://www.lazygamer.net Gavin Mannion

            No one is stealing my Batman this week.. 2 weeks in a row

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            But, but ( . )( . )

          • Sageville

            BATMAN IS A LIE!

            There is only cake and pie.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Challenge accepted. I’ll rally the troops

          • That Tall Twit

            *accepts the call to action*

      • Ultimo_Cleric N7

        hahaha!! Gotta find a positives :)

    • HvR

      She should get a life time achievement award for getting most comments on a Dota article. What is the average commetn count on Dota articles, 1.78 comments per article?

      • Admiral Chief of Rivia

        Nope, more like 1.79

        • HvR

          Aaa damn! Sorry, I didn’t add the current article’s comment count.

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            ;)

  • hairyknees

    Nothing to see here… just me boosting Zoe’s comment count :D NANANANANANANA BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    All I got from the comment section of the last article is that DOTa gamers are like COD kids – both camps suck on the rotten cancerous teat of social failure…

    No wonder, the world-at-large thinks gamers are a bunch of socially-ill equipped juvenile tossers.

    • Sageville

      “suck on the rotten cancerous teat of social failure…”

      I lolled

      That’s some Pulizter Prize shit right there!

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        Fo’shizzle! :P

    • RinceTheSwineStains

      hey Nana, been a while! You pretending to work still? ;)

      • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

        I do what I always do (before lunch), I stare at my desk, while wondering if I can turn off the monitor with my mind… and THEN I play with the two plastic dinosaurs (I keep in the drawers)….

        • RinceTheSwineStains

          Good man. I try building elaborate mazes with the business cards I get off people. So far my Minotaur Maze is looking sweet. Have you managed to turn the monitor off with your mind?

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            For a moment it seemed that I did, but I fear it might have gone to sleep because of inactivity…. :/

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Busted

        • Admiral Chief of Rivia

          What dino’s are they? Stego? TRex?

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Stego and a triceratops. I’ve had them since I was 5. :D

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Always figured you for a Stego man

          • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

            Uhm.. not really sure whether that’s a compliment or a backhanded slap through the gold gangsta teeth :P

          • Admiral Chief of Rivia

            Nay brudda, Stego’s are kewl. And it makes sense that you dig it

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)

    It’s starting to sound like the MSSA are channelling our dear president, Oom Generaal Jacob Zuma. Just come out and level with us, “We screwed up lads, and… yes.. we tried to pull the wool over everyone’s eyes”.

    It’s OK. We’ll put the pitchforks down, and then we’ll all have a good ol’ South African commission of enquiry: the kind where someone drafts a 20 000 page report – that looks impressive, until you realise there’s nothing but crude drawings of penises in it.

    But seriously though, and in all honestly, I think the MSSA should just come clean, and say, they googled for a team, set up an international friendly via google talk and thought no one would care… It’s DOTa after all… not rugby, football, cricket or dodgeball…. cough cough!

  • Rags

    Last I heard about the IeSF was back in 08 when it was launched. Back then it had no love for FPS games and it had some ridiculous invitational events where no one even knew the invited players except for the Koreans.

    I don’t have high hopes for esport in South Africa if MSSA want to work ‘through’ them.

    On the one hand I want to applaud MSSA for trying to establish gaming as a ‘real’ sport. On the other I think gamers will be better off without a governing body.

  • Kenneth RabidDog Clark

    This is why gaming should remain just that, gaming. Introduce bureaucracy and it always ends badly. Time to start playing outside :D

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