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   January 13th, 2012 clock image 11:30 am

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There’s an online community, called out by the folks at Destructoid, called “Men Going Their Own Way”. According to the site, it’s  “the Internet’s biggest and best Men’s forum.” According to what I’ve read there, it’s really just a place for angry people with penises to berate and moan about women.

In a thread called”WTF is with empowered women in video games now?” disgruntled user “I Am” starts the proceedings with an almost valid, but inappropriately laid complaint about PC strategy title Shogun 2.

It all goes downhill from there.

“I recently bought an upgrade for the game the other day and guess what one of the strongest military units was?”, he asked rhetorically. “Nuns. I shit you not. The nuns had an attack 20% -40% higher than most units in the game. Somehow I doubt that in real life a nun would have swung a sword or used a spear faster and harder than a feudal warlord, and this game was based on history.

I think I have the right to ask steam and other gaming companes (sic): WTF with the subliminal brainwashing? What now when I buy or play a game women will be doing all the ass kicking? I seen some similiar (sic) patterns on the game advertisements on television and the internet recently and want to know if anyone else is seeing the pattern?

I call bullshit on this subject. Video games are the last place for guys to hang out and now women are taking over. Why not just save us the trouble and instead of eliminating our fantasy world just throw us in work camp to provide for thier (sic) bastard children (literally speaking) while they shit all over us…wait they already do that.

End of rant.”

Of course, that was just the end of his rant. while not voiced particularly nicely, the point of overpowered nuns is valid (though any of you who’ve attended Catholic school might disagree).But it gets worse. The misogynists who frequent the men’s-only forum quickly sprang in to woman-hating action.

“I’ve noticed this too, and it drives me insane. Was co-oping Gears 3 last month and there’s a point where 2nd player has to take over a female character. Almost ruined the game for me. It may seem minor, but once you’re aware of this type of brainwashing it’s impossible to ignore. There’s no way a slim female could keep up with the massive battle-hardened male Gears in that kind of environment. They would be a liability as they are in real life combat,” said one angry testiculared gamer.

Yes, because Gears of War has a completely realistic depiction of men, right?

“You’ll see the same thing in most stat-based role-playing games as well, where you have the option of a female player character – like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, D&D, etc. The women never have any strength or intelligence penalties compared to the males…”

Their suggested stats for a woman in RPGs?

-4 STR
-2 CON
-1 INT
-6 WIS
+8 CHA

SKILLS
-2 Intimidate
-4 Listen
+3 Sense Motive
-4 Survival
+10 Profession: Prostitute
Spell-like ability to cast create baby once every 9 months

“It would be hilarious,” says another manly man, “to portray the female characters realistically. If you chose the female character in your FPS she would have to move very slowly, dragging the gun around. You could build in some extra shake to the crosshairs to represent hopeless accuracy. Every time you needed to reload your gun, instead of just pressing a button, you’d have to find a male character and go through some flirting dialogue options to persuade him to do it for you. One out of every four missions the game would tell you that you were sitting out this one due to ‘women’s issues,’ “said another.

Responding to the ire he’s received the original poster tried to clarify his position.

“The thread was about how unrealistically women are increasing portrayed in video games and the media. Period. That is all. Don’t take it as hate speach (sic), bigotry, or sexism. It’s not.
Nuns and girls, with the exception of some lesbians in the county prison, cannot kick anyone’s ass unless a desperate mangina/white knight who is trying to get laid does it on their behalf. Don’t hate nature over it.”

No. Not sexist at all. While there are a few valid points throughout the thread – like equality not really being equality – most of it is just misogynistic tripe. We’ve often been fingered for sexism for our habitual, daily posting of nearly naked ladies – but it’s because we love women, and the fine female form, not because we think women belong in kitchens making us sandwiches.

Fellas…I think it’s time you went back to your caves and scratch your balls. It’s what you do best.

You can read the entire thread here…though you may end up wishing you hadn’t.

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  • Andrey

    OMFG those dudes need to get a life…and get laid once in a while, a game is a fantasy world where people can do shit they obviously can not do in reality, these dudes compare women to game characters looooooooool do they think they can compare themselves to anyone in Gears or any other game?

    • Andrey

      PS nice alt text for the header image :P

      • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Geoffrey Tim

        Shhh!

        • http://twitter.com/Valshen Garth Holden

          lol

  • http://twitter.com/HighOnFireZA Kaptein

    -4 STR
    -2 CON
    -1 INT
    -6 WIS
    +8 CHA
    SKILLS
    -2 Intimidate
    -4 Listen
    +3 Sense Motive
    -4 Survival
    +10 Profession: Prostitute

    This will fit my Paris Hilton RPG character perfectly.

    • http://www.twitter.com/WobblyOnion Geoffrey Tim

      Just -1 to INT?

      • Andrey

        more like - ?

      • http://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa Tauriq Moosa

        Hey! I met Paris Hilton. She was really sweet… ok, she was buying an astrology book at the time… um… Ignore me.

        • Maxiviper117

          hahaha lol…………………………

  • claudiu a

    Well…we now know where all the Forever Alones are hanging out.

  • LadyGamer

    Guess they all still virgins!

  • Zuma

    If you made a game with a women as the protagonist it will have to take place in the kitchen
     

    • http://www.lazygamer.net Gavin Mannion

      I sometimes think some people comment without even skimming through the article

      • http://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa Tauriq Moosa

        But it’s Zuma. You expect less from Mr I’ll Shower Away the Aids?

  • http://twitter.com/mathuthe Mathias Olivera

    And they have male-only orgies every weekend! Boy, they’re idiots indeed. 

    • http://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa Tauriq Moosa

      At least there won’t be any offspring from those orgies.

  • Anonymous

    I have strong opinion about this. There is certain things women and can do and can not do. Same must be said for us dudes. Women should stop comparing themselves to men since we are different. But in a way we are still equals, just in a different way (makes sense)

    But just because we are different, doesn’t mean we shouldn’t respect the other sex.

    These neanderthals clearly thinks this is still the middle-ages. And they obviously don’t know the power of a real, non-blown up woman. Women can weave spells on us and turn us into putty.

    I wonder if anything I just typed makes sense It somehow makes sounds better in my head.

    • http://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa Tauriq Moosa

      Well for one thing, men can’t have babies (naturally) and women can’t produce sperm. I agree: it’s a pretty trivial detail what men and women can’t do – but even these are changing, with sex change operations so it’s not entirely clear that the line of difference will exist to any significant degree, except in terms of sexual orientation (and even then…)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1690164499 Marcus Trettin

    Interesting header pic … but it looks like she likes it being slapped (A lot of women do … within reason of course). ;)

    But anyway: BTT
    Sometimes I wonder why are some individuals are allowed to freely roam around, considering the bullshit they are spitting out of their mouth. They seriously compare female like characters in video games with their twisted oppinion of real womens?

    This planet is so f**ked, if we continue to further breed such idiots. -.-

    • Anonymous

      Breed such idiots. LOL makes me think of the movie Idiocracy.

  • http://twitter.com/matthurstrsa Matthew Hurst

    I’m not a racist, but… Same thing there. I’m sure if you actually took these guys on about this in real life they would backpedal very quickly and become whimpering wrecks, resorting to posting shit on a forum to make themselves feel better. 

    If you haven’t yet, watch the Nek minute video on Youtube. Those guys are probably exactly like that guy. Slow and missing some teeth.

  • http://twitter.com/Grant_za grant nicol

    Yes we can all see that the place is for forever alone sexist…….so why cant they have little space to act like idiots together, I mean no body complains when feminists get together.

    Im pretty sure most of us here were filled with rage when a group of feminist got certain shirts banned last year, so now a group of guys gets called out for having their own views. Im not saying their views are right but they werent going out and crusading against womens rights, what was destructoid trying to prove by trolling the internet and calling these guys out.

    • http://twitter.com/tauriqmoosa Tauriq Moosa

      I think Destructoid were doing what many people do: Finding someone to criticise for having stupid/backward/bigoted/unjustified views. It happens frequently — even if you are the one who finds them. I think it’s good we get all forms of unjustified discrimination into the open – regardless of who finds whom.

      Remember: There’s a difference between:

      (1) having the right to make these bigoted statements – which I fully support and so should everyone who thinks free speech important – and

      (2) not criticising these statements. You may criticise whatever you want and I especially think its important to criticise something if its unjustified: many of us DID criticise the feminists who took the issue too far with the Foschini T-Shirts. Because I would criticise anyone, male/female, pink/green, gay/straight who makes unjustified sexist/racist/homophobic claims.

      We also know that there is evidence to suggest that working on grass roots levels of prejudice does rippled effects: if you can  make Billy Bob think, for just one second, that he might have bad arguments, it might later, change his mind (though how people change their minds is itself a very complicated science). I think it’s important for bigots to know they’re wrong.

      We’re not saying they can’t have their space and continue to make these stupid statements, but if they do, there’s no reason we can’t use our free speech to criticise them. It’s a two way street and perhaps the most important street we have as a free society.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=682513237 Vince Griessel

    So I guess that dude will not be playing lollipop chainsaw? awesome, one less on the servers

    • Anonymous

      Probably will be playing to ogle at the CG skin what was generated.
      He wil off course go bitch and moan about it later on.

  • chlorofluorocarbons

    Wow! That is intense! I’m ashamed to be the same sex as them. All I see are boys with inadequacy complexes. Any sort of female empowerment is a threat to them. Unfortunalety for them, they were born in the wrong era.

  • http://twitter.com/TriangularRoom Abigail Holden

    I notice these guys didn’t complain about the unrealistic portrayal of women in games like soul caliber or dead or alive…
    And anyway, how many years did us girls spend playing games as * totally realistic* macho men? It’s only recently get to choose to play as cool female characters. Personally, I don’t really wanna flirt with the female characters in mass effect and such.
    Sad that there are still men out there who live in the dark ages…

  • IateBobo

    What are these women doing out of the kitchen? 

    • chlorofluorocarbons

      My girlfriend is a hardcore gamer and I’d lay down my entire savings, credit cards, and loans that she will kick your ass in any game you choose.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVDX355HFBVAQVTDTIOUJCJY7M Lans

        hey im not really part of this argument chloroflurocarbons, but can i challenge ur gf, i need the extra money. And u seem to be a bad gambler. :D Set the date/time/venue/Phone No. Ill send u my banking details for ABSA

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVDX355HFBVAQVTDTIOUJCJY7M Lans

          oh ya i forgot can i challenger her in Gran turismo 5 at the Suzuka track, We can use any dtm car and the fastest lap time after 10 laps wins? fair?
          Wheel or controllers allowed

      • Anonymous

        My high score in Epic Pinball’s Deep Sea table is 1.955 billion.  Have at it ;)

  • chlorofluorocarbons

    Be careful about sending me ur banking details…I’ll sell them to the nigerians :D

    • Anonymous

      Anyone who sends anonymous people their banking details, deserves whatever’s coming to them.  You’d have to be pretty daft to do such a thing ;)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVDX355HFBVAQVTDTIOUJCJY7M Lans

        I was merely trying to confirm how serious chloroflorocarbon is, and exploit it, its obvious he is bluffing. And his gf is competent but not some magic allstar gamer like he is claiming she is.

        • Anonymous

          Oh I know, I was just replying to him, being overly paranoid about your banking/personal info online is not a bad thing =)

  • chlorofluorocarbons

    wasn’t bluffing…I’m just very proud of her :D she came out of the gamin closet last yr and is pwning like there is no tomorrow. competent is an understatement. seems like many guys don’t like the idea of gettin their asses kicked by gamer chicks…your defensive reaction says that u might b one of them. i have no doubt that some1 who came out the womb with a handheld, i assume u r 1 of them, would beat her. just don’t b some1 who underestimates gamer chicks. anyways, don’t take my banter too seriously :)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_GVDX355HFBVAQVTDTIOUJCJY7M Lans

      i agree i would have to play at 100% concentration and not underestimate her . That is my way of the gamer anyways

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