The Division Beta has, surprisingly, sold me on the concept Ubisoft has lined up for next month with so little content. I still think some areas aren’t as great as they could be, but The Dark Zone has me completely sold on a gamified representation of human nature. It’s exciting to dynamically join groups hunting for rogue agents, or find yourself in the shoes of the fleeing traitor.
It’s not so fun when either one of those parties is simply more powerful than the game should allow – which is happening a lot on PC.
According to many, many complaints on Reddit, it seems Division players on PC have found that player stats (such as weapon damage, ammo counts and more) are all saved on the client side of the game. That means there’s a file not so deep in your PC with all this information being stored and edited by the game as you play, which is then sent to the server to reflect on another player’s game when you decide to kill them. It does, however, seem as though the server doesn’t actually check to make sure these numbers haven’t been altered.
That means The Dark Zone on PC currently has quite a few players running around with infinite ammo clips, buffed damage outputs and a ridiculous amount of health, making the entire social experiment an exercise in frustration. With only month to go, many on social platforms are wondering if this could end up being the straw that breaks the game’s release – so much so that Community Developer Hamish Bode had to speak up.
@RedekerKane Of course there are. We’re on it, Stephen. Don’t you worry your pretty little face.
— Hamish Bode (@hamishbode) January 31, 2016
It’s definitely something The Division simply cannot release with, otherwise the Dark Zone play on PC will be completely ruined. And that’s enough to make me want to stay away.
Last Updated: February 1, 2016
Uberutang
February 1, 2016 at 10:32
They did the same thing with RB6 Siege. And then banhammered, added anti cheat after launch. I suspect they do this on purpose to honeytrap the cheaters.
CaptainNemo42
February 1, 2016 at 10:56
Why would they want to bait the cheaters by having easy exploits only to then ban them? The more people they ban, the less DLC can be sold. Its not something any developer or publisher would want to do.
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:03
Cheaters make people stop playing the game. Stop new players from wanting to play the game. Then even less gets sold.
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:16
Yeah but storing the files client side… The really skilled hackers only gets to work after the games released anyway
CaptainNemo42
February 1, 2016 at 11:22
Not quite what I meant. Ban the hackers we don’t want them *spits, but now you make it easy for the hackers to hack. So its easier for people who might not have done it, do it, only to get banned and not spend extra potential money on the game’s DLC.
Thomas Michelsen
February 2, 2016 at 09:57
It doesn’t matter how easy it is. I’ve run a Minecraft community, for the past 3 years, and if there’s one thing I’ve learned, it is that cheaters will always find a way. When caught, they will just be more sneaky next time. They will never, ever, stop trying to cheat. It’s in their nature.
Mistake Not...
February 1, 2016 at 10:33
So… post apocalyptic Watch Dogs?
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 10:47
Nope, hacking the game files are waaaay more complex than anything in Wart_Doge….
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 10:59
Plus this is in NY and they’re already used to The Avengers, the Prototype creatures issues, Spider-Man, Daredevil, the problems from Driver Parallel Lines, the monsters from Alone in the Dark, the monsters from Duke Nukem, the Fantastic Four, Godzilla, the skater’s from THPS and the creatures from The Wolf Among Us. I’m sure another post apocalyptic thing is just ordinary life.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:03
Let’s not forget about Prophet from Crysis, the most parasitic being to ever live, hey, dude, you seem ok, take my suit and watch me devour your soul!! Then there’s all of the aliens and the diseases that have already passed through, maybe they should come up with a New York Travel package, that includes a bullet proof vest, Hazmat suit, LMG, sniper rifle and antidote to any suspected roaming diseases as a standard Visa application?
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:05
Haha!
Don’t remind of what garbage Crysis became.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:07
Crysis 2 was brilliant and then everything they worked so hard for, the brilliant gameplay the astonishing graphics, every rendered pixel of Crysis 3 was a complete waste… what a disappointment….
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:09
I only enjoyed Crysis 1 and Warhead. Thereafter it just became another corridor shooter set in a broken city. Plus the suit was simplified in 2 and 3, making it epically boring. It looked amazing though, but I only managed about two hours.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:11
I also enjoyed 1, it was brilliant! I bought two simply because of the soundtrack actually, but 3…oigh…. And what was up with their endings, still, to this day…. anyway…
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:12
I think I replayed 1 maybe three times myself. I remember buying it, not knowing what the hell it is…and being so impressed and surprised.
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:55
Oh yes, that opening scene… And where you eventually get to your team mates, the distorted view every time something goes wrong… Good memories, I might actually try and play it again…
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:57
LOVED that opening bit,
Yea….me too
Ottokie
February 1, 2016 at 10:35
I played relatively free from hackers, there was 1 or 2 cases where I was a bit skeptical about my death but meh. I had my legendary gun by Sunday and was trying to see how long we could stay rogue for 😛
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:48
But the chance is always there… no thanks.
Jonah Cash
February 1, 2016 at 10:35
I am not all that interested in the dark zone. I enjoyed running around in the PvE parts and doing missions and encounters… Exploring was quite fun
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 10:45
One thing is for certain, they did a stellar job at displaying a broken New York…
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 10:49
Did they just lift it from the other 100 movies/games that have also done that?
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 10:51
I suppose that if you were to look at it as a copy paste job, yes, but the work pu tinto the engine does pay off, it looks quite good… But then again, Crysis 2…
Edit and Crysis 3…
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:01
lol
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:55
They took it from a Michael Bay movie and added snow
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:02
I thought Michael Bay movies were sometimes exciting though? *run
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:03
Only when you can see past the lens flare…
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:47
The agents are super fit though. Sprinting with a LMG, assault rifle and a pistol for kilometers at a time O_o
Ir0nseraph
February 1, 2016 at 10:55
Yeah but don’t tell them, before it becomes a DLC.
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:56
Mountain Dew DLC
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:42
https://media.giphy.com/media/QbumCX9HFFDQA/giphy.gif
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 10:59
Hacking time is a different story altogether. Only Hackerman can do that.
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:13
I’m sure he can hack in the normal sense and not just time. Else they’d call him Timecop or something
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:22
True. But why would a man with such a grand moustache waste his time on that? ;P
HairyEwok
February 1, 2016 at 11:48
Can he hack time and stop the developers before they turned into complete assholes?
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 10:48
PC gamers abusing the system? Get out of here!
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 10:56
At least they have 4K graphics…. well the top 1% that can afford it
Kromas untamed
February 1, 2016 at 10:57
Screw 4k. 2160×1200 is the new 4K!
HairyEwok
February 1, 2016 at 11:50
4k divided by zero…. Get the corn ready hue hue hue hue
ElimiNathan
February 1, 2016 at 12:16
Don’t the top 1% of PS4 players that can afford 4k have it too ?… Oh no wait they don’t
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 12:29
Tis true that a console has yet to transcend the boundaries of 1080p. We manage somehow. Wrapped in a shroud of ignorance
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 12:32
It can run 1080p!
The FPS is another story though 😛
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:00
Console gamer commenting only for the sake of saying something about a pc gamer.
Never!
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:03
I know! It’s usually the other way around! #MasterbaterRace
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:07
We’re more subtly sarcastic about it though.
And we have facts on our side ;P
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:08
Yeah, with people hacking the PC version of the game, so do I 😛
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:11
They haven’t hacked Witcher 3 yet, so I’m happy 😀
I’m not interested in Meh Division.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:14
Nor am I to be honest 😉
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:17
Haha.
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:05
Let’s just be grateful that it could speak in complete sentences.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:05
omgwDF! UR no nutting1
Greylingad[CNFRMD]
February 1, 2016 at 11:07
My eyes….
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:12
Filthy peasant. To the dungeon with him!
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:14
My dungeon is full of aircons to keep my AMD running though, so I’ll let it slide. #selftrolling
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:09
And they complain about DRM lol.
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:12
We are talking about Ubisoft and Uplay here though.
If Steam’s DRM is the common cold, then Uplay’s DRM is cancer.
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:14
Stop encouraging him. This is just his ssdd trolling. Rather give him a pat on the head & a cookie, and laugh politely. 😉
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:15
That therapy did wonders on you, NOT!
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:17
How’s that different to what we always do?
Oh wait. Shhhh
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:17
Oi!
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:18
I’m all out of cookies, will give him matches and wait
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:18
And everything in SA is dry! Oh the hours of fun to be had!
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
Savanna needs a new sales pitch, people don’t find it funny anymore
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
It was funny? 0_O
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:21
The “it’s dry” puns in the pub seems hilarious at the time
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:21
Have you tried using lube?
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:22
I tried tequila
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:30
Was it effective? Or did you roll a critical failure?
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:32
The bird mocked him. :/
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:36
Ineffective, as the years go on it seems I need stronger and stronger stuff to make me look pretty through the eyes of another
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:38
Unfortunately that’s what happens when you stop playing Destiny & don’t grind for the new weapons & cosmetics.
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:40
The plot ‘thickens’
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:54
Last I check it wasn’t in Year two of Destiny
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ibibi-destiny/uploads/6ec7faa4-9b77-434a-8482-1bd7c2c104d6.png
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:18
For a moment I thought you meant Solid State Drive, and thought: they don’t understand that kind of tech! ;P
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
That is like a decade away from them…
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:20
Guess what I’m getting for my PS4 on my birthday (Well, planning to)
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:20
A memory card?
Trolololooo
Solid State Drives are the best.
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:21
XD
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:22
Speaking of birthdays…….
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:23
It’s Admiral’s Birthday everyone.
He’s very excited to have his first beer.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:23
HAHAHA! )
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:27
Finally, he’s grown enough to get past the “you must be this tall to sit at the pub” sign
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:27
Fuck you, I haven’t but I carry my ID 🙁
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:28
Hehe
XD
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:29
XD
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:29
LAWL
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:29
Yes, I haven’t had one this whole new year of my life!
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:32
Are you pregnant again?
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:34
Sadly, this pregnancy is now getting out of hand. I need to start doing sit-ups or something, age + beer belly is catching up now
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:37
😀
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:40
Seriously though, I’m not sure if it is terrible or magnificent
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:45
If you don’t need to buy bigger shirts, then you’re still okay.
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 11:47
Well, fek
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 12:19
Shops used to sell XXL. Not so much anymore 🙁
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 12:18
Just deal with it, like I do XD
The Grand Admiral Chief Prime
February 1, 2016 at 12:29
Before you know it I’ve given up and starting jamming console!
[sets sit-up schedule]
I suppose the XBOX dudes can just pick up the XBOX once a day and you have plenty of exercise!
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 12:34
Or use Kinect fitness. Because Murica
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:23
I heard something too…;)
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:25
I have one every year.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:26
Is that when everyone is either busy out of town or suffering from forgetfulness?
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:26
XD
Alien Emperor Trevor
February 1, 2016 at 11:27
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:27
XD
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:14
So PC games is a sickness?
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:15
lol
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:16
I said “IF” damn it!
😀
Hammersteyn
February 1, 2016 at 11:18
If “ifs” and “buts” were candy and nuts, you’d all be playing Candy Crush on Windows…. oh wait, that actually happened
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
0_O You went there man… You went there…
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
XD
Well, playing Candy Crush in any way is bad enough. Worse even if others know.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:19
ZING!
Captain JJ 'saurus
February 1, 2016 at 11:20
It wouldn’t be my comment if I didn’t line it up perfectly for someone to take advantage.
RinceThis
February 1, 2016 at 11:14
HAHAHAHA
Alessandro Barbosa
February 1, 2016 at 12:28
DRM refers to systems to stop the illegal distribution of games, not stop cheating 😛
oVg
February 1, 2016 at 13:05
Hackers must GITS
http://i.imgur.com/55plCuO.gif
Ghost In The Rift
February 1, 2016 at 13:31
Simply put someone smart enough will have their scrips and hacks, even GTA Online is still littered with them and they seem to get away with it.
Dane
February 1, 2016 at 14:04
That rank up mc-jagger in the middle of your screen looks freaking irritating. On another note I am on telkom and do not earn enough gold to be able to download the beta in time for The Division 2.
Hvd
February 6, 2016 at 18:12
the problem is its all client side.they altered ini files.even with so called anti cheats it will still be hacked like dayz and arma 3 because everything is client side.even when ubisoft puts in its anti cheat just like dayz the will be programs to hack and it will kill the already doa pc version.the game wouldnt last more then 6 months on pc any way.that hacking just makes it go faster.
Hvd
April 6, 2016 at 22:45
you couldnt see this coming?.there was cheating if the beta because of the client side issue.same thing in dayz its easy to hack and cheat because of the client side.
i saw this happening months ago.