Maxis has done a big 180 degree turnaround, and has announced it’lll finally be adding the much requested, previously impossible-to-implement offline mode to city builder SimCity. In a new update, lead game engineer Simon Fox has said in a new blog post that implementing offline wasn’t as easy as flipping a switch.
“Lucy Bradshaw once said that offline wouldn’t be possible ‘without a significant amount of engineering work’, and she was right,” said Fox. “By the time we’re finished we will have spent over 6 ½ months working to write and rewrite core parts of the game to get this to work. Even things that seem trivial, like the way that cities are saved and loaded, had to be completely reworked in order to make this feature function correctly.
“I wish it were as simple as flipping a switch and telling the game to communicate with a dummy client rather than our server, but it’s more than that. Entire calculations had to be rewritten in order to make the game function correctly.”
SimCity, he says, was originally written to rely on magical cloud servers to keep the simulation, and that making all of that happen locally requires quite a bit of work.
“This meant rewriting the entire system, which previously existed in Java, and putting it into C++,” he further explained. “We’ve had to knock out the internet pipe stuff. There’s lots of code that hits the servers looking for information. We’ve had to write a lot of code to produce that data locally, specifically for region information.
“Now, all of the regional simulation needs to be done locally. The algorithms governing trading between cities needed to be retuned in order to make the behavior between cities more responsive for this type of play. This in itself required major optimizations in order to run the simulation locally. We have an obligation to make the game fun and functional on all specs of machines. We wouldn’t want someone who was enjoying the Multiplayer game to find the Single Player game crippled due to poor optimization.
“We had to remove parts of the game for it to function properly as well. This means removing lots of code integral to Multiplayer include code and UI supporting Trading, Social Features, Global Market, Leaderboards and Achievements. And, all without crippling the Multiplayer game.”
Maxis has routinely said that EA did not force the online requirement, and that it has nothing to do with DRM – and that may be the case. they clearly had a vision for the game and its scope – even if that vision has really bitten them in the ass. They greatly underestimated how many people like playing games offline, alone, without all that social nonsense that gamers are being force-fed all the time.
Last Updated: January 15, 2014
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 10:33
All the tears and suffering of changing that code could have been avoided
#JustSaying
That Tall Twit Norm
January 15, 2014 at 10:44
#Word
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
January 15, 2014 at 12:56
lol, they tried to pull the wool over our eyes. It’s all an illusion. A ruse!
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 12:59
Whahahhahahaha
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 10:44
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Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
January 15, 2014 at 12:02
Even the Queen agrees!
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 13:09
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Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 10:45
Good!!! All they had to do is ask people if they wanted SP or just MP. It’s their own damn fault. Forcing people to play it their way bit them in the ass. Now let’s see what they intend to fuck up next. Personally I am as content as a cucumber to wait for a proper sequel. Not this patched tiny town shit that can’t be expanded bigger than most towns in the Northern Cape and don’t tell me to mod the damn game!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 10:48
Six months. Oh wow. So terrible.
To think if only the game came out six months later it could’ve sold twice as well.
Huge sacrifice, clearly.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 10:57
And I could have still not bought it.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 10:57
I bought it at release. BUT. I got Dead Space 3 for free with it.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:00
Talk about a cloud with a silver-ish lining.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:03
“ish” being the main bit there.
Dead Space 3 was not on the same level of the two games before it. Co-op was fun though. Made it worth it.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:08
I still need to play the first two. Sigh.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:13
First one is great. Second one is scary as hell, simply because you keep running out of ammo. Third one is meh. Feels too arcady.
RockMossel2014
January 15, 2014 at 12:09
I started playing Dead Space 1 the other day. Very cool game, but the mouse movement is just horrific! Serious lag. Apparently I need to untick vsync to make it better. Did you play it with kb+m or controller?
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
Damn you for not being on Xbox, DS3 is fun coop (though shouldn’t be called Dead Space!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
Agreed. Damn me. I’m played with a friend, but then we got other games and DS3 got left behind.
Might buy an xbox because they’re so cheap now.
LOL. Just kidding.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
I love the scenes when y are floating in space, brilliantly done with amazing backgrounds!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:30
We were doing that and we actually couldn’t find each other for like ten minutes.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:32
Ya. Not easy. Made me feel like I was up there though, really well done.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:35
It is. DS1 didn’t feel as immense. They really got that in the third game.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 10:52
I didn’t know Don Mattrick was working for Maxis.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 10:55
No one works for Maxis. They’re all slaves of EA.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 10:52
It would have taken less than 6 months if they hadn’t done it in the first place.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 10:53
There is a massive difference in publishing houses.Valve relies on consumer input and thus makes their DRM (yes steamworks is actually DRM) seem attractive. Ubisoft tries to stay under the radar but ultimately their system is bad and people dislike it. EA proudly announces their games will be always on and just plain ignores their consumer base. And Activision just keeps on making CoD and sulking about Blizzard.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 10:55
Valve and Bathesda for me thanks.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:00
CD project RED is on the top of my list.No mess no fuss and bloody good games.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:02
Oh man. Forgot about them. That’s what I love about Bathesda and CD projekt red. No fuss.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:05
Well Bethesda needs to sort out their beta testing. their games are always (and I really mean always) buggy at launch.I have still to finish Fallout:New Vegas cause half way through it corrupted my saves and even Skyrim pissed me off.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:12
Sheesh. I’ve had a problem on Fallout NV myself. But not a single bug on Skyrim to date (I’ve been lucky). And I’m running all the DLC’s and over 20 mods.
But I agree, their games do tend to be buggy.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:15
FAS ROH …. (windows has encountered an error with Skyrim.Do you want to send an error report) … DAMN!!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:15
Hahaha. That’s a masterful yell you have there.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:06
What I like about Bathesda is how clean I feel after playing one of their games. trollol!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:11
Different to after an EA game, where your butt hurts.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
January 15, 2014 at 12:34
I wouldn’t rate Bugthesda that highly. They could definitely learn a thing or two from CD Projekt Red. But in terms of shit publishers and developers, Bethesda and Zenimax are right there alongside EA and Activision in my book. The amount of lies they spewed during and after Skyrim was released was absolutely disgusting. Not to mention, the misrepresentation of their software during Oblivion. Any one remember Radiant AI or what an advance it was supposed to be? Remember what a dud it really was?
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 12:36
Oh. Alongside EA? Yoh. That just made me cringe. But, to each his own. I’ve obviously missed their bad press moments.
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
January 15, 2014 at 12:41
Peter Hines was on a roll. He was flooding twitter and the internet with bollocks leading up to Skyrim. And that is always a no-no for me. I appreciate marketing, I appreciate trying to showcase your games in the best possible light, and allowing hype to build but blatantly lying is where I draw the line.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 13:17
Ah. That’s disappointing.
That Tall Twit Norm
January 15, 2014 at 11:00
LOL @ the last sentence.
CrasH
January 15, 2014 at 11:02
But if i have no internet for any reason, most of my steam games can still be played in offline mode and even when i am playing a game while being connected, it wont crash/stop a single player game when the internet stops… Thats why steam “DRM” is okay because it does not prevent you from playing with other systems do when it cant authenticate…
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:04
Hence the reason why Steam DRM is attractive.
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:10
Not only is it attractive but at least the games in your steam library will still be available if Valve goes belly up. Simply release a patch not requiring steam to ever log in again and you still have your games.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:13
Yeah but really what are the chances of steam ever going belly up? EA is doing a real crap job and they still manage to turn a profit (I think they cook the books but that is my opinion). then again EA force feeds DLC to their consumers.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
Valve has Gabe. We should be safe.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:16
All hail Gabe.Leader of the free worlds! (Except Azeroth)
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:15
Slim to none in all honesty. But as I said “if”.
If EA had to go belly up… all those always online things would be real crappy to have wouldn’t it.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:19
Some of the games on Steam don’t even use the optional Steamworks DRM. You can copy the installation folder from your Steam folder, put it somewhere else & run the game from there directly without using the client.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
O_o
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:21
Indeed but Steamworks made me lazy.I buy a game from my phone and it is downloaded by the time I get home from work.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:22
You just listed one of the reasons why I love Steam. (other developers take note)
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:23
If only they would fix their backup utility. I tried to restore L4D yesterday and it got screwed up.Now I am redownloading it again.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
Yes. That thing is still a bit screwed up. I just think they need to change their app a bit. The store is really difficult to get around on your phone.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:25
It’s certainly damn convenient, especially now that offline mode actually works. Steam just works.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:25
They did have years and years of perfecting it though but in all honesty it is because they listen to their fans.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
If you look at Uplay (shite) and Origin (shite). They both look shiny and refined and grand and wonderful. But they just don’t work the way you want them to. Steam looks basic and sometimes even dated. But it always works the way you need it to.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:31
You can make steam look like Origin with the view button. (But don’t)
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:33
I don’t like inducing projectile vomit. So, no thanks.
Not too fond of the BIG PICTURE mode either. Too little info and feels too much like a console (too generic).
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:37
Indeed.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:37
Don’t get me started on fucking Uplay. It’s not Uplay, it’s Uwait while we decide if we think it’s okay for you to play the game you bought & we haven’t switched a server off for shits & giggles. WTF you have to run that client after starting the game from STEAM is beyond stupid. And when their servers are unavailable, which has happened to me a few times, you can’t play the game. It makes me mad.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:39
You played Blood Dragon, didn’t you?
I ruined my favourite pair of underwear when I saw Uplay opening up when I started the game from Steam. AND! Then piece of horse-shit Uplay went into “initializing” for 30minutes!
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:41
Uplay is indeed a shocking thing to see!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:42
I actually liked Ubisoft until Uplay
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:45
Me too.
“Hey look guys, EA is releasing their own game client to cut out the middle man. We should do the same. It’s so convenient & everyone loves it.”
NO THEY DON’T.
At least they didn’t go full retard & stop listing new titles on Steam, like our other friends did.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:46
Yes. Sheesh. I just don’t get that. Makes it easier for me. I just don’t buy it.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:41
Yes. The first time I tried to play it Uplay was “down for maintenance” so the game wouldn’t load. RAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:43
I got AC3 (or one of them) for free with my GFx card. Played it once. Uplay just makes things too hard, besides the fact that it loads longer than it takes me to download a movie and watch it.
RockMossel2014
January 15, 2014 at 14:37
Same with Rocksmith! But I noticed that instead of clicking ok when there are no servers, just click cancel (or press escape, cant remember). It then bypasses all that crap and you go straight to the game!
Anon A Mouse
January 15, 2014 at 10:53
Who wants to bet that this patch will break something somewhere. If they went with SP en MP from the start things would have been so much easier, it’s going to take them even longer to get all the bugs fixed after this patch.
Wyzak
January 15, 2014 at 10:54
I’ll consider picking it up now if I see it at a good price and reviews show that the game is functioning properly now (traffic etc has been fixed)
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 10:56
Traffic apparently still hasn’t been fixed. And to put it lightly. It’s a royal f-up.
Wyzak
January 15, 2014 at 11:55
Yeah it’s their failed agent system at work. I strongly believe that the failure of the agent system is the only reason they decided to limit the size of the maps so much. If the agents just barely work on a tiny map, imagine the stuff-up on a big map.
Double-O-Six and a half
January 15, 2014 at 11:56
Was it a Juju “bloody agent” in a red beret?
Wyzak
January 15, 2014 at 12:01
hey! don’t come here with your white tendencies.
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
January 15, 2014 at 12:02
Simcity, now with all the annoying problems of a real city!
Wyzak
January 15, 2014 at 12:07
At least in a real city those things can be fixed by the engineers, last time I saw videos of Simcity the actions were completely ludicrous, and illogical.
Lizzard
January 15, 2014 at 11:02
Is it still worth the effort though? I no longer play it all, as it was massively disappointing. Not to mention how broken the simulations were, even off their imaginary cloud simulations.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:03
I recently played Lego with my nephew.We built our own City and then we trampled it. That was much much more fun than I have had in Sim Shitty.
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:05
You willingly trampled on Lego????
Woah 0.o brave man
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:06
Had slippers on (got it for xmas (quite comfy))
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:07
Slippers? So not even a solid sole? Woah dude. You like living on the edge do you?
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:07
Just call me Kromas “Danger” Powers. Yeah baby!
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:34
but but the lego could break!!
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:36
We have loads. I gave all my lego from when I was a kid 30 years ago when lego was still cheap and bountiful.Also it is no fun to just build a city. You need to go Godzilla on its ass!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:38
I remember when you could just buy a box of legos. Not Star Wars, or Pirates or a specific thing. Just a box of mixed legos.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:38
The days of innocence..
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:41
When Lego was bountiful this happened often.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:38
I had like 20 5l ice cream tubes filled with lego, just gave it away! I should of kept it!! lego a rip off now!
Matewis Jubilai
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
I would still play with legos today if it weren’t so damned expensive. My last treat was a R500 X-Wing a couple of years ago I bought for myself. Didn’t have enough wallet bravado to go for the Millennium Falcon…
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:30
Damn that is nice!
Rags
January 15, 2014 at 11:18
The recent patches has made the game a lot better. With a larger maps mod and offline its worth installing again.
Lizzard
January 15, 2014 at 11:22
Where does one find this bigger maps mod? Sounds exactly like the thing i need.
Matewis Jubilai
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
Just give the modders a year or so to go at it.
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:05
They should have released it for the next gen consoles after Titan Fall and Destiny prove that gamers want always on-line DRM updates, Maps, social plug ins, DLC AKA FORZA 4 Tracks for FORZA 5 behind pay walls, Patches, Micro Transactions and redeem codes ALL ON THE CLOUD.
Sim City was way ahead of its time. Releasing a DRM game during the 7th gen console generation where the console does not need a MANDATORY day one update out of the box… what were they thinking 😛
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:11
Sim City on console. Did I just hear the matrix implode?
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:12
😉 Just checking to see people do read my bollocks.
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
I’d much rather prefer to read your comments than your bollocks.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
Your pubes aren’t tea leaves 😛
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:15
That’s not what she said!
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
Do you drink Rooibos 😛
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
Not anymore.
Sir Rants A Lot Llew. Jelly!!!
January 15, 2014 at 11:21
Images! IMAGES! Quick! Bring me the brain bleach!!
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:15
What, like Diablo on console? BWAHAHAHAHAH! Too soon?
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:17
LOL. Well done. Actually want to get that. The lady and myself will have loads of fun playing that together. Though she’ll probably play when I’m not there and leave me behind.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
shame…
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:18
TOOOOOO SOOOOOOON
It was R199 at Musica the other day. I placed it on the bottom shelf behind the other games.
ERROR 37 that BLIZZARD!!!
When the PS4 was revealed alongside DIABLO 3 I already realized how quickly gamers forget.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 11:22
We don’t forget, we believe the marketing lies. Blizzard is the new EA, just no-one wants to admit it.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
Point made.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
I will struggle to mutter those words! Blizzard was my childhood friend!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:28
To be honest. I actually haven’t had any problems with StarCraft II and that thing is always online. Then again, whenever my internet seemed choppy, I just wouldn’t bother with it.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
*whispers* I have yet to play Starcraft 2… Still got it lying at home.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:30
Blasphemy! May a thousand zerglings infest you nether regions.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:31
Nay. Ultralisks.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:31
loved starcraft 1 and warcraft games!
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
No. EA loves pay to win. Blizzard does not yet love that concept so EA is still worse.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 11:32
Ever heard of World of WarCraft, or a full-priced expansion pack that adds one new act and one new character class? 😉
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:34
Please show me pay to win in WoW. All you can buy in the store is cute pets. Every other pay to win system is illegal.GW2 has pay to win but not WoW. Both games are horrible though and everyone should be playing DayZ. 😛
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 11:35
How far can you get in WoW without paying though?
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:46
Apart from the sub you can’t pay for anything other than pets. So everyone can get to the same level with the same gear.Depending on play time.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 12:04
That’s what I meant, bud – the sub. I can play The Old Republic without any obligation of paying a cent for as much as I want and as far as I want.
Yes, there are restrictions, but those are conveniences more than hindrances. With Blizzard I’m still paying top dollar, both monthly and for an expansion pack, for not enough value to be honest.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 12:11
Subs are not pay to win.Also you can buy items and money in Star Wars and that is pay to win.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 12:30
True, they haven’t adopted an actual pay-to-win method yet. What they are doing though is charging for a lot and not giving the value in return.
Their quality of games has dropped considerably over the past decade, and they are riding on their name to make the sales, regardless – and it’s working really well for them. They have a strong marketing team that knows that they only have to press our nostalgic button and they’ve got 5 million pre-orders.
I’ve gone of topic though.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 12:37
But it is fun going off topic. I still enjoy their cinematics though. Starcraft however is still top notch compared to … oh wait EA screwed up all their RTS games and they don’t exist anymore. 😛
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 12:45
Hehe, a new C&C would’ve been fun.
Back to the Blizzard-quality thing. Their stories are all so damn similar now. WarCraft has Arthas, StarCraft has Kerrigan and Diablo has Leah. All the dialogue is almost identical too, heck you can get drunk for drinking each time they say “corrupted” or “torn asunder!”. 😛
Their cinematic visual quality is top-notch. The cinematic dialogue though… yeeesh.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 13:21
If you want dialogue then you can only trust Bioware (until the last 15 mins ofc. 😛
Rags
January 15, 2014 at 11:55
How is shitty drop rate and RMAH not pay to win? 🙂
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 11:55
Exactly. They tried to go for it and were called out.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:57
Does not yet love the concept. That was why it got dropped in the console version. It was a test and it failed and I am glad it did.Also that is one game. Name one recent EA game that does not have pay to win.That is much much more difficult.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 12:05
No, there was outrage, and they couldn’t justify it without admitting to what they were intending. So they canned it.
Rags
January 15, 2014 at 12:12
What is your criteria for pay to win?
Besides, Diablo 3 still has RMAH and is still online only. While being one of the best selling PC games of all time. Where is the fan service? No it will come in a farking expansion pack a new loot system and still just online only. Say what you will but Maxis is giving us all these updates at no cost or hidden in an expansion.
And Blizzard continue to lie to us and think we are morons.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 12:27
I only really care about Starcraft anymore.But I still believe we should give Blizzard the benefit of the doubt. It is not like they have been screwing us for years.At least let us see what they do now that they are free from Activision.
ToshZA
January 15, 2014 at 14:50
Ok so I’ve read the entire conversation – and I’ve decided to add my two cents here.
Blizzard are nowhere near EA. Not even close. They’re still making great games. They screwed up with something on the PC D3, but fixed it for console, and will do so on PC too. SC2 is amazing. WoW has millions of people playing.
And here’s the thing EVERYONE forgets. Hearthstone – completely free, not pay to win. Heroes of the Storm, the new MOBA from Blizz, likely free, not pay to win. And everyone who’s played Hearthstone can tell you – it rocks. Its free, it rocks, it’s typical Blizzard.
Diablo 3 exp is going to be great too. Something everyone also forgets is that diablo 2 without the expansion sucked as well, but they made up for it with the expansion.
Blizzard remain true to their core. They still love games, and gamers. Raging on one failed idea isn’t the same as the entire company screwing their clients over – aka EA.
Gareth L (That Guy)
January 15, 2014 at 15:01
So, what you’re saying is that you just don’t want to admit it. 😛
Kidding, look you’re right. I may have exaggerated a bit, but I still don’t think that Blizzard titles are anywhere near their initial quality, yet that nostalgia is what is still getting their sales.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:23
You want to get it?
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
D3 co op on a couch must be a blast!
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
Not when you are playing with a pissed up OVG who has no clue how to make guns and thinks you have to pay for the parts! I didn’t have to and made kick ass weapons! He’s just retarded is all trololo!
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
😛
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:30
D3 has guns? The rest point made!
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:34
He sees DS3. But either way guns, leather trousers… still the same thing 😛
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:41
Opps, sorry, thought you meant Dead Space 3 🙂
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:42
What Dull space 3 fuck that idea mate!
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:43
It isn’t dull at all. It is a good game, just not a good Dead Space game.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:44
I know aint dull, but sure as heck isnt dead space that I remember!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:44
It wasn’t dull. Just wasn’t the same as the first two. I can think of many games more dull.
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:43
It’s delicious
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
I do not care how much it has been improved. I will not buy it out of principle considering they used the PC gamers as theire QA testers before the creators realised it was a piece of shit and that the real money auction house did not work before they packed their bags and left the company.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:29
I’d buy it just because it is the first time that the PC Master Race were used as Beta testers, that honour usually falls to us! 🙂
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:33
lol And they still get the the worst version of the console Beta tested game. DARK SOULS? 😛
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 12:20
And look how much better your version was, because we’re even better at beta testing 😛
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:23
WOOOOOOOOOOT
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 12:26
😛 Go and be nice on my Don Jon review 😛
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 12:31
Careful what you wish for 😀
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:42
dun dun duuuuunnnnn
Rags
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
People forget, Diablo was on the PS1 too. 🙂
And it played great.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:20
diablo 1?
Rags
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
Yes sir.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:26
True dat!
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:35
So did Final Fantasy on the Nintendo 😛
TOOO SOOOON
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:22
Best version ever.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:23
Technically it’s the only version. That thing on PC isn’t really a game.
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:43
That thing on the PC is more of an Auction House.
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
You mean you have to farm for your leather trousers instead of purchase them in the store 😛
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
BWAHAHAHA!
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:25
LOL!
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:04
Draadsitter! 😛
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 12:22
Hahaha, I have a PC,PS3,PS4 and Vita. I may be tipping.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:24
PC >>> PS3+PS4+Vita
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 13:00
Not denying that.
RinceThis2014
January 15, 2014 at 11:14
That’s just it, they weren’t!
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:21
PC has had mandatory DRM for a long time now. PS4 and XBOX One is now moving into that direction though most of their games I suspect will still be offline.
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:22
The PS2 was the last console. LONG LIVE THE PS2.
The new gen are lazy PCs for the casual market 😛
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
And the SNES was the best console. Long live Mario!
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:38
A special compartment in my brain has all of the experience still stored from this MASTER PIECE of colour and sound.
oVg
January 15, 2014 at 11:40
NO FCKING PATCHES REQUIRED
Double-O-Six and a half
January 15, 2014 at 11:53
Amen to that!!!
In the PS2 days a developer HAD to get their code right. They released a poorly coded game it failed. Nowadays they release a poorly coded game and they just “fix” it with endless patches – Always online is just an excuse for lazy and inadequate coding!!!
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:54
Also the most complex code was Up,Up,Down,Down ABAB. 😛
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
January 15, 2014 at 11:55
Now that is something special, right there. No, mp, no online. just fun.
Kromas
January 15, 2014 at 11:58
There was MP. I remember playing Bubble Bobble with a friend. 😛 Also Dig Dug.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 11:58
SUCH a mario slut you are!
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:45
Yup, but most of us could only find the Genesis in store. Man I still remeber the first time me and my brother fired up Golden Axe and Altered Beast.
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:44
Agreed, PS2 was a godsend. The PS1 wasn’t bad either.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 11:59
YES, planetside 2 is heavenly!
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 12:23
You troll you XD
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:25
Hey, what can I say, love that effing game! Racked up nice score last two times I jammed a quick session, 29 and 32 with K/D 29 and 4.5 respectively
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 12:56
Jeez ease up Rambo
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:59
I am very proud of the 29 KD scored that day, normally, I log in once per each faction, play until killed once, log out and do the other faction etc.
Rolling as Max in Biolab defence, with a Engi being my repair buddy, we both racket up plenty XP there! Best KD I had ever before this 29 was 7.2 I think
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:19
Moral to the story, Simcity should of been offline game with online Mp mode. The idea of purely online games is fine for games like WOW ect but not Simcity which all previous Simcity games were completely offline… stupid EA yet again..
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:24
Maybe it would have been fine if not for all the server issues they had. But there was no excuse to leave out the option. If only they asked their consumer base before they started developing.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:25
Or make a game that is how the gamers (the customers) want it. You only have to spend ten minutes on any gaming forum to realize that everyone hates DRM.
Hammersteyn
January 15, 2014 at 11:43
One word. Kickstarter. And the beauty is we fund what we want.
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:45
Yes. Look what happened to DAYZ. People want to support games that give them what they want.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:03
Indeed
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:04
Agreed!
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:26
There should always be choice, unless Online game. still servers should of worked very sad how you can only play the game like a month after purchase..
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:27
Don’t forget the Darkspore debacle. EA has made some serious screwups the past few years and it’s going to take a lot for me to buy an EA game ever again.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:32
I was gonna buy Darkspore till saw what suffering my buddy went through always online crap!
General JJ Raven (John)
January 15, 2014 at 11:34
Well, the first bunch they released didn’t actually work at all. The DVD’s were useless. So you went out, bought a physical copy, but had to download the entire game.
TiMsTeR1033
January 15, 2014 at 11:35
I remember that!
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:05
What about a Syndicate Wars SimCity?
Exalted Overlord Geoffrey Tim
January 15, 2014 at 12:06
Oh god, I want more Syndicate.
Alien Emperor Trevor
January 15, 2014 at 12:18
Hopefully Satellite Reign will scratch that itch nicely.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:18
Here is hoping!
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:18
So much!
Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
January 15, 2014 at 12:08
EA should just continue on its path. To Bankruptcy! TO BANKRUPTCY!!! And all of Gamerhood will rejoice.
Admiral Chief in Vegas
January 15, 2014 at 12:18
lol
UltimateNinjaPandaDudeGuy
January 15, 2014 at 12:29
Bigger maps and teraforming is just way more important to me… Everything I do is online anyway. So the online didn’t bother me. The damn small maps piss me off though.
DrKiller
January 15, 2014 at 14:01
I see the problem right there… “Java” 😛
Gr8_Balls_o_Fire
January 15, 2014 at 14:10
“They greatly underestimated how many people like playing games offline,
alone, without all that social nonsense that gamers are being force-fed
all the time.”
APPLIES TO EVERY GAME DEVELOPER OUT THERE
Well said Geoff
loftie
January 15, 2014 at 14:31
I just might go and buy simcity now…
LollydaLolDragon
January 16, 2014 at 09:40
Yay.. finally offline.. now i can pira.. i mean Purchase the game without any hassels..