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> <channel><title>Comments on: Evidence Mounts That Blu-ray Will Struggle</title> <atom:link href="http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/</link> <description>The Latest Gaming News</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 22:19:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Milesh Bhana</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-15159</link> <dc:creator>Milesh Bhana</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:43:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-15159</guid> <description>Blue-Ray will be adopted the same same DVD got adopted. Initially it&#039;s demand because people who have it swear by the difference, but eventually it&#039;s supplier push.If you walk into a video store and the latest movies are Blue-Ray only, you&#039;ll buy a BR player (whether you have an HD-TV or not). At least your old DVDs will still work in the new player.The best way to push the new is to simply phase out the old. (Naturally, this will only be done when it&#039;s profitable for the studios to do)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue-Ray will be adopted the same same DVD got adopted. Initially it&#8217;s demand because people who have it swear by the difference, but eventually it&#8217;s supplier push.</p><p>If you walk into a video store and the latest movies are Blue-Ray only, you&#8217;ll buy a BR player (whether you have an HD-TV or not). At least your old DVDs will still work in the new player.</p><p>The best way to push the new is to simply phase out the old. (Naturally, this will only be done when it&#8217;s profitable for the studios to do)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kabraal</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-15155</link> <dc:creator>kabraal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 06:32:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-15155</guid> <description>Huh? You&#039;ve participated just as much in this thread. And now I&#039;m worried or waisting my breathe? Lol...  :wink:</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh? You&#8217;ve participated just as much in this thread. And now I&#8217;m worried or waisting my breathe? Lol&#8230; <img
src='http://www.lazygamer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doobiwan</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-15150</link> <dc:creator>doobiwan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 21:23:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-15150</guid> <description>You must be really worried about Blu-Ray to waste so much breathe after everyone who cared stopped listening.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be really worried about Blu-Ray to waste so much breathe after everyone who cared stopped listening.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kabraal</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-15148</link> <dc:creator>kabraal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 12:27:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-15148</guid> <description>That&#039;s all forebearers that was doomed from the get go. The only company which drove these formats were Sony. No one else really bothered to buy into it. Damnit, where is the bold function on these board.I&#039;m tired of aruging this shit. Blaming me of ranting and not listening? Please man. Please enligten me as to were I ever claimed BD will overtake dvd in the near future? If you go back, listen and read, my original point was that BD in my eyes is all ready successful. It already has a market. It can be bought everywhere in the world and as per my links, it&#039;s already takening up significant chunks of the DVD market. It&#039;s already taking 18% of the Japanese home video market. Then transition (which will be slow yes) is happening right before your eyes but you choose to stick your head in the ground.Yes this the physical format is transient (now way!!!111one wow didn&#039;t know that, maybe I should leave the PS3 or 360 and wait for the PS10 or xbox 8?), but like I told you before, this is not the cell phone market. It doesn&#039;t change every 6 months!!! CE companies and Hollywood just don&#039;t want to change the way they distrubute movies and music every year. It costs too much money. If there was a new format that will be launched 2010 90% of CEs and Hollywood will shrug it off!! Your little list of failed formats there is excellent prove of this. No one wanted to buy into it because no one believed it could carve out a decend market for itself with decend returns.Now before you attempt to point out the supposed irony, like I&#039;ve told you before, the BDA has already managed to convince every single movie studio to start BD, they already have all major CE manufaturers on board. They already have Dell in their pockets to start production or $800 BD laptops. They&#039;ve done what none of those other formats got right.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s all forebearers that was doomed from the get go. The only company which drove these formats were Sony. No one else really bothered to buy into it. Damnit, where is the bold function on these board.</p><p>I&#8217;m tired of aruging this shit. Blaming me of ranting and not listening? Please man. Please enligten me as to were I ever claimed BD will overtake dvd in the near future? If you go back, listen and read, my original point was that BD in my eyes is all ready successful. It already has a market. It can be bought everywhere in the world and as per my links, it&#8217;s already takening up significant chunks of the DVD market. It&#8217;s already taking 18% of the Japanese home video market. Then transition (which will be slow yes) is happening right before your eyes but you choose to stick your head in the ground.</p><p>Yes this the physical format is transient (now way!!!111one wow didn&#8217;t know that, maybe I should leave the PS3 or 360 and wait for the PS10 or xbox 8?), but like I told you before, this is not the cell phone market. It doesn&#8217;t change every 6 months!!! CE companies and Hollywood just don&#8217;t want to change the way they distrubute movies and music every year. It costs too much money. If there was a new format that will be launched 2010 90% of CEs and Hollywood will shrug it off!! Your little list of failed formats there is excellent prove of this. No one wanted to buy into it because no one believed it could carve out a decend market for itself with decend returns.</p><p>Now before you attempt to point out the supposed irony, like I&#8217;ve told you before, the BDA has already managed to convince every single movie studio to start BD, they already have all major CE manufaturers on board. They already have Dell in their pockets to start production or $800 BD laptops. They&#8217;ve done what none of those other formats got right.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doobiwan</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14938</link> <dc:creator>doobiwan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:41:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14938</guid> <description>8mm, VHS, DVD?  No.That&#039;s the irony and the point your missing kabraal. Try a few others. A-track, betamax, minidisc, laserdisc, UMD, SACD. That&#039;s BD forbearers, the formats that claimed improvement but no innovation. Funnily enough, they all have close ties to Sony.What you&#039;re missing about BD, UHD or whatever is that the physical format is transient. Why buy an expensive BD player, when it&#039;s replacement is already in the works? As far as multilayer goes, goodluck. The current gen players only support 2 layers, so you&#039;ll need new hardware anyway.As I&#039;ve said before, if you&#039;d stop ranting and actually listen for a change, BD may very well find itself a market, but it&#039;ll remain niche, like laserdisc or minidisc, and in time it&#039;ll be superseded by downloads as is happening to CD  as we speak.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8mm, VHS, DVD?  No.</p><p>That&#8217;s the irony and the point your missing kabraal. Try a few others. A-track, betamax, minidisc, laserdisc, UMD, SACD. That&#8217;s BD forbearers, the formats that claimed improvement but no innovation. Funnily enough, they all have close ties to Sony.</p><p>What you&#8217;re missing about BD, UHD or whatever is that the physical format is transient. Why buy an expensive BD player, when it&#8217;s replacement is already in the works? As far as multilayer goes, goodluck. The current gen players only support 2 layers, so you&#8217;ll need new hardware anyway.</p><p>As I&#8217;ve said before, if you&#8217;d stop ranting and actually listen for a change, BD may very well find itself a market, but it&#8217;ll remain niche, like laserdisc or minidisc, and in time it&#8217;ll be superseded by downloads as is happening to CD  as we speak.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kabraal</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14936</link> <dc:creator>kabraal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 19:34:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14936</guid> <description>Wtf are you on about? Youâ€™re the one posting links of future technologies claiming them to be potential competition for BD, or as you put it, that it will cause sufficient doubt to sway people from buying into BD, but what you fail to mention is that this new technology is based on blu ray discs being upscaled.So please explain to me how a technology based on blu ray disc (1 layer, 2 layers, 3 layer or 100 layers) is bad for erm blu ray disc? I mean thatâ€™s what you said right? Please explain it. This is like me saying superbit DVD will kill DVD even though, itâ€™s fucking dvdâ€¦ understand?Please provide me with some links (not from some fanboy blog please) with your BD sales numbers. And before you do, think of a second and please donâ€™t link month on month sales numbers from December/January/February like previously. That just doesnâ€™t work for people who can think further than their nose. Because if you do, you might as well run for the hills. Everything CE tanks during those three months.Iâ€™ve some links for youhttp://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/home_entertainment/video/e3if32b8f1fa30457d78668ac733fc7bde1?pn=1http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1155http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1222http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1206http://www.chinatechnews.com/2008/05/23/6782-chinese-companies-authorized-to-produce-blu-ray-products/I really donâ€™t get the irony of my post. The way I see things is we started with projectors, went to VHS, went to DVD and now weâ€™re starting to move to BD. After that weâ€™ll move on to something else and then something else again. I donâ€™t see whatâ€™s so difficult to stomach about that?Blu ray isnâ€™t going anyway mate. Face it. Iâ€™ll waste more time on you in a year. Have fun.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wtf are you on about? Youâ€™re the one posting links of future technologies claiming them to be potential competition for BD, or as you put it, that it will cause sufficient doubt to sway people from buying into BD, but what you fail to mention is that this new technology is based on blu ray discs being upscaled.</p><p>So please explain to me how a technology based on blu ray disc (1 layer, 2 layers, 3 layer or 100 layers) is bad for erm blu ray disc? I mean thatâ€™s what you said right? Please explain it. This is like me saying superbit DVD will kill DVD even though, itâ€™s fucking dvdâ€¦ understand?</p><p>Please provide me with some links (not from some fanboy blog please) with your BD sales numbers. And before you do, think of a second and please donâ€™t link month on month sales numbers from December/January/February like previously. That just doesnâ€™t work for people who can think further than their nose. Because if you do, you might as well run for the hills. Everything CE tanks during those three months.</p><p>Iâ€™ve some links for you</p><p><a
href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/home_entertainment/video/e3if32b8f1fa30457d78668ac733fc7bde1?pn=1" >http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/home_entertainment/video/e3if32b8f1fa30457d78668ac733fc7bde1?pn=1</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1155" >http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1155</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1222" >http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1222</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1206" >http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1206</a></p><p><a
href="http://www.chinatechnews.com/2008/05/23/6782-chinese-companies-authorized-to-produce-blu-ray-products/" >http://www.chinatechnews.com/2008/05/23/6782-chinese-companies-authorized-to-produce-blu-ray-products/</a></p><p>I really donâ€™t get the irony of my post. The way I see things is we started with projectors, went to VHS, went to DVD and now weâ€™re starting to move to BD. After that weâ€™ll move on to something else and then something else again. I donâ€™t see whatâ€™s so difficult to stomach about that?</p><p>Blu ray isnâ€™t going anyway mate. Face it. Iâ€™ll waste more time on you in a year. Have fun.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doobiwan</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14933</link> <dc:creator>doobiwan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:11:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14933</guid> <description>ROFL!So if BD upscaled is &quot;good&quot; for UHD, which is a 4:1 vertical upscale, then why the heck do we need BD when DVD is twice as good on &quot;HD&quot;, because it&#039;s only a 1.5-2:1  vertical upscale. Exactly.Nice one mate, there&#039;s an own goal of note! Thanks again for proving my point.&lt;em&gt;doobiwan&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.doobiwan.com/2008/04/games-that-made-consoles.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Games that made the consoles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL!</p><p>So if BD upscaled is &#8220;good&#8221; for UHD, which is a 4:1 vertical upscale, then why the heck do we need BD when DVD is twice as good on &#8220;HD&#8221;, because it&#8217;s only a 1.5-2:1  vertical upscale. Exactly.</p><p>Nice one mate, there&#8217;s an own goal of note! Thanks again for proving my point.</p><p><em>doobiwan&#8217;s last blog post..<a
href='http://www.doobiwan.com/2008/04/games-that-made-consoles.html' >The Games that made the consoles</a></em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kabraal</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14927</link> <dc:creator>kabraal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:35:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14927</guid> <description>ehhh having read that linked article in on the main site, you do realize that this new UHD buzz word is not a new format right? It&#039;s ummm BD on a seriously big expensive TV? So why bring it up as potential competition for BD that may lead to market doubt if it ummm is BD?Hmmm now where have I heard this before? Hitachi maybe?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ehhh having read that linked article in on the main site, you do realize that this new UHD buzz word is not a new format right? It&#8217;s ummm BD on a seriously big expensive TV? So why bring it up as potential competition for BD that may lead to market doubt if it ummm is BD?</p><p>Hmmm now where have I heard this before? Hitachi maybe?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: doobiwan</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14926</link> <dc:creator>doobiwan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:33:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14926</guid> <description>My apologies if you&#039;re still missing the irony of your own post.It&#039;s not my opinion kabraal, that&#039;s what the current sales numbers and precedent say.&lt;em&gt;doobiwan&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.doobiwan.com/2008/04/games-that-made-consoles.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Games that made the consoles&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My apologies if you&#8217;re still missing the irony of your own post.</p><p>It&#8217;s not my opinion kabraal, that&#8217;s what the current sales numbers and precedent say.</p><p><em>doobiwan&#8217;s last blog post..<a
href='http://www.doobiwan.com/2008/04/games-that-made-consoles.html' >The Games that made the consoles</a></em></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kabraal</title><link>http://www.lazygamer.net/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/comment-page-1/#comment-14919</link> <dc:creator>kabraal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:23:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.lazygamer.co.za/blu-ray/evidence-mounts-that-blu-ray-will-struggle/#comment-14919</guid> <description>&quot;Every single thing you say about UHD can be said about BD&quot;Let me correct that for you as you obviously didn&#039;t understand all that well:â€œEvery single thing you say now about UHD was said about BD, and HD DVD for that matterâ€Itâ€™s a complete fully specâ€™ed format and fully supported by industry. UHD is a pipe dream which will only be realized years from now. It will be realized off course, as I generally believe in technological progression.Look you obviously couldnâ€™t give a shit about all this and thatâ€™s fine. But the mistake you make again is forcing your own opinion / interests on the rest of the world. Your opinion that no one really cares is at best, a wild guess. Whatâ€™s one of the fastest growing industries in the world? LCD and Plasma TVs. People are off course interested in stuff like this. Itâ€™s the Americans bread and butter. As the prices come down more will buy into it.And no worries there. I have book marked it. Iâ€™ve booked marked it since it since this thread was published.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Every single thing you say about UHD can be said about BD&#8221;</p><p>Let me correct that for you as you obviously didn&#8217;t understand all that well:</p><p>â€œEvery single thing you say now about UHD was said about BD, and HD DVD for that matterâ€</p><p>Itâ€™s a complete fully specâ€™ed format and fully supported by industry. UHD is a pipe dream which will only be realized years from now. It will be realized off course, as I generally believe in technological progression.</p><p>Look you obviously couldnâ€™t give a shit about all this and thatâ€™s fine. But the mistake you make again is forcing your own opinion / interests on the rest of the world. Your opinion that no one really cares is at best, a wild guess. Whatâ€™s one of the fastest growing industries in the world? LCD and Plasma TVs. People are off course interested in stuff like this. Itâ€™s the Americans bread and butter. As the prices come down more will buy into it.</p><p>And no worries there. I have book marked it. Iâ€™ve booked marked it since it since this thread was published.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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