Xbox One, batteries are included

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Hey Hey it’s Monday… yeah it doesn’t quite have the same ring to it does it? Oh well let’s start off today with the breaking news that the Xbox One controller is going to be shipping with not one, but two whole AA batteries.

Yes according to Major Nelson you are not going to suffer that agonising experience of opening up your brand new toy and then having to empty the TV remotes of their batteries so you can get your game on.

Granted this isn’t really news but it does lead us into a discussion over whether or not replaceable batteries for top-end electronics are a little ridiculous now?

We all know that battery disposal is one of the worst things for the environment and that Microsoft is going to be selling a play and charge kit for the Xbox One; so really shouldn’t they be including that rechargeable battery as default?

Again we point out that Sony is including a rechargeable batter in its controllers but I guess the temptation of all those people buying plug and play kits is simply too much to ignore.

In all fairness it isn’t a big deal but hey it’s Monday and we need to get into the mood for a long week of serious discussions –  so sound off below.

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Author:Gavin Mannion

I'm cranky, arrogant and ever so amazingly annoying but when you get to know me you will also realise I'm honest and incredibly good at describing myself... now pass me that beer
  • Chad Warden

    dat ps quadruple

  • kixxs

    This should shut up the PS fanbois as they were really bitching ’bout this!

    • Otto_ki

      You sir have won yourself a down-vote, not because of your comment just because I am one of those said “fanboys” and it’s Monday.

      • Unavengedavo

        I guess he missed the part that read “Again we point out that Sony is including a rechargeable battery in its controllers”

    • Matthew Bryant

      I think you’re failing to see the forest through the trees there buddy…

  • John’s cold sweat

    I prefer the AA batteries, actually. After a while those built in batteries become like an old cellphone, always in need of a recharge.

    • Matthew Bryant

      If you use your console for 8 hours every day, then after about 4 years you MIGHT need to replace your controller. Honestly, it’s not an issue. The cost of replacing AA batteries (even the rechargeable ones) is much higher than the cost of replacing the controller after 4 years.

      • John’s cold sweat

        You’re probably right. I don’t play much with my PS at all, most of my games are on my PC, so I probably can’t talk. Just bought new batteries for my keyboard and mouse yesterday, shocking… Here, take my upvote.

  • Martin du preez

    Microsoft’s vision of the future continues to surprise the gaming industry, Microsoft includes not one, but TWO AA BATTERIES. (Charger sold separately). Microsoft only does bargains.

    THIS IS CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE, RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES ARE SO 1998.

    • RinceThisandholiday

      TWo you say! What sorcery is this! I think they missed the boat here. Why not rechargable?

      • Martin du preez

        Because even normal alkaline batteries can be charged with cloud powah.

        • RinceThisandholiday

          BWahahaha! Indeed

  • Martin du preez

    Microsoft’s vision of the future continues to surprise the gaming industry, Microsoft includes not one, but TWO AA BATTERIES. (Charger sold separately). Microsoft only does bargains.

    THIS IS CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGY PEOPLE, RECHARGEABLE BATTERIES ARE SO 1998.

  • TiMsTeR1033

    how long would those engegizer lithium last in xbox one controller? Just a thought

    • Rock789

      Actually I own Energizer Lithium rechargeable batteries that I use in my 360′s controller… And they still last nowhere near as long as my 4 year old PS3′s controller with it’s built-in rechargeable battery which still lasts for months at a time… I think Microsoft missed an easy win on this one.

      • TiMsTeR1033

        months at a time? woah! My 360s play and charge batteries last like a few days with regular use. kinda sad if you compare months.

        • Rock789

          Yup, exactly… Whatever Sony pumped into those batteries (maybe depleted uranium?), it works like a charm!

          For 360:
          - I have Energizer lithium rechargeable batteries which last 4 -5 days with regular use.
          - I have a play-and-charge kit, which used to last long but, nowadays, lasts around 4 – 5 days with regular use.

          For PS3:
          - I have a 4 year old controller, my original which I got with my original PS3 which still works great, which lasts between 1 – 1 1/2 months per full charge with regular use.

          It’s crazy, the differences… Just wish my 360 controller had that same level of rechargeability.

          • TiMsTeR1033

            I know the feeling. Its like While your playing you see the recharge sign check your bars and its one and think nah it will last and then dies on you forcing you to plug in cable to charge and in my case move closer to tv as well. I still want a ps3 but by the time ps4 comes out will be to tempting to buy that instead.

          • Rock789

            Yeah, that PS4 is looking more and more tempting. I honestly feel it’s the better buy (and I’ve been a HUGE 360 fan this generation). I’ve even pre-ordered myself a PS4… Will have to wait and see to make sure that everything Sony have said about the PS4 comes to fruition. If it does, it’s gonna be EPIC!

          • TiMsTeR1033

            Im just waiting for GTA 5 lol so what you gonna get it on?

          • Rock789

            360. :) Still love my 360 for this generation. And GTAV ain’t coming to next-gen (at least they’ve said it ain’t for now). :)

          • Alien Emperor Trevor

            Damn, the PS3 controller lasts longer than my Kindle before needing a charge lol

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000639808167 Jamel Frazier

            Do you have the vibration turned on on your PS3? I have the sixaxis controllers, they don’t last months, but I get about 3 weeks maybe 4 if I just watch netflix all the time.

        • Rock789

          Maybe the length of time it takes to recharge makes a difference… My play-and-charge kit for my 360 takes around 2 – 3 hours to fully charge. However, my PS3 controller takes around 5 – 6 hours of recharge before it says it’s fully charged… Hmmmm…

          • Vampyre Squirrel

            My two 360 play and charge batteries are completely dead, they don’t even charge anymore.

          • Matthew Bryant

            Really? My PS3 controller takes about an hour. <.< Strange.

      • DarthofZA

        My PS3 battery lasts a week if I’m lucky on regular use? What magic do you possess? That is still impressive as they lasted a week when they were brand new, so it isn’t like they are loosing their charge, but they do not last anywhere near a month! Never have.

        • HvR

          I think it depends on the what is regular use, 4 to 6 hours a day on my p3 controller and also only last around a week to 2 weeks. I rarely let them completely drain though, put them on charge every 2nd or 3rd night.,

          • RinceThisandholiday

            Try letting hem completely drain. I have the 360 recharge pack which last me 30 hrs when allowed to completely deplete. It has something to do with the ‘memory’ of the battery.

          • HvR

            Different types of batteries on the Xbox 360 and DS3 controllers.

            Xbox uses NiMH batteries (both in the packs or any type AA rechargable you buy) these suffer from voltage depletion/depression so you want to fully discharge then fully charge them every third or fourth cycle. Never store or leave them unused fully discharged.

            DS3 uses Lithium-ion battery (same as in your smart phone), these do not like full discharges. The first time you use it you want to use it until you see low battery indication followed by a proper full charge for the “smart” battery charging circuit “to learn” the characteristics of the battery. Charge the battery as often as possible, keeping the battery charge 75% full or higher will extend the battery life with a about 20%.

        • Super Roller

          It’s clear that he is spending more time on his Xbox than PS3.

      • OldSocialist

        Really? have to recharge mine maybe every three weeks – still good, but not months. I guess I play PS3 about eight hours a week.

    • HvR

      The Energizer Lithium batteries are for short high power bursts application like digital cameras, their performance in xbox 360 controller are almost identical to normal alkaline energizers. THESE ARE NOT RECHARGEABLE, YOU CAN CAUSE A FIRE IF YOU TRY TO RECHARGE THESE.

      Use proper Uniross or Energizer high capacity rechargeable (2800mAh+) with a proper 2 hour or 3 hour delta peak charger, you will get . The xbox360 built in charging circuits are utter crap and most of the times the batteries are not fully charged when charging in the controller.

      • Matthew Bryant

        Not quite twice the play time, but close. It’s still undeniably more expensive than a DS3 controller, and is quite frankly completely unnecessary, but you get what you get. The 360 controller should not cost $60 though. The exclusion of the battery easily shaves $20 off production costs.

  • Craig Boonzaier

    “rechargeable batter” – the bread that keeps giving, or a yeast infection that keeps coming back

    • Craig Boonzaier

      Ok, I will let myself out now, too much Dota 2 and too little sleep makes me not think before I enter.

      • Admiral Chief Zombie Slayer

        O_O

    • Alien Emperor Trevor

      Solving world hunger & electricity shortages in one go.

      • Matthew Bryant

        I tend to shy away from eating yeast infections, but if you’re hungry who am I to judge?

        • Alien Emperor Trevor

          Beggars can’t be choosers after all.

  • Craig Boonzaier

    “rechargeable batter” – the bread that keeps giving, or a yeast infection that keeps coming back

  • Melasco

    My PS3 is 3 years old and my controller’s battery is still like new, lasts weeks, and make no mistake, my PS3 has seen HEAVY use over the last few years… Why MS chooses to still use batteries is beyond me…

    • TiMsTeR1033

      Because they injoy milking the public like cows.

    • Hammersteyn

      Same my my PS controller. MS wants to make a extra buck with the play and charge kits and people will buy it because they will need it.

    • Mathias

      To make people like you happy.

      • Bonzohazard

        LoL, you are awesome sir! Your wit likely falls on deaf ears, but I was listening!

  • Melasco

    My PS3 is 3 years old and my controller’s battery is still like new, lasts weeks, and make no mistake, my PS3 has seen HEAVY use over the last few years… Why MS chooses to still use batteries is beyond me…

  • saneman

    OMG all this info about the xbox one is so great!
    Now when is it being released in SA again?

  • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

    meh, DS3 might not be the best controller, but not having to charge ma batteries or buy new ones really is a huge plus. You would think they would do away with this all together for the next generation

    • Hammersteyn

      I have two contollers for instance. Ones always plugged in while a play with the other. The ones that flat charges in no time as well.

      • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

        Indeed, that’s the nice thing .. well for my Xbox control I have to wait for the batteries to charge, usually takes about 5 hours plus … well I guess that is why the One still has batteries, while it charges, you can skype with your grandma

        • Hammersteyn

          Or TV?

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            Oh , yeah forgot again the gaming console is now a media device too that you can watch irrelevant sports on.

          • Nodplain

            Look at the PS fanbois making the DS3 sound better than the Xbox controller through their own inferior actions.

            One buys a second controller and the other only has 2 rechargeable batteries LOL

          • Umar Kiiroi Senk?

            Hello simple-minded commenter. Thanx for assuming we are Sony Fanbois, clearly you have used your excellent skills of deduction to come to that fact …

            Not having batteries is an obvious good thing to have for the DS3 controller,or any controller as a matter of fact, it has nothing to do with fanboism. We are just joking about the Xbox one, but you have clearly shown your bruises of butt hurting by jumping on the fanboi insult bandwagon, but I do appreciate your effort.

          • Matthew Bryant

            If you don’t want to buy a second controller you can always charge one controller over night. As I said previously, a DS3 lasts about 36 hours when fully charged. Buying a second controller is a matter of convenience, it’s not necessary. Just like most 360 owners buy one extra battery pack on top of the number of controllers they own, most PS3 owners buy an extra controller. Overall, PS3 controllers are considerably more cost effective than 360 controllers. 2 rechargeable batteries need to be replaced a good 10 times before the PS3 controller needs to be replaced. It’s not a difficult concept. It’s just simple logic.

          • Convinced

            This is the biggest load of BS I have ever read. Rechargeable batteries are sold in packs of 4. 2500mah batteries will set you back R150 with charger. Charge the whole lot once. When 2 are depleted after 60hrs of use, replace with the other 2. Rechargeable batteries like UniRoss hold 90% of charge when not used for months. One can’t simply swap out batteries with DS3 now can they?

          • Matthew Bryant

            The battery in the PS3 will last for years. Rechargeable batteries will not unless you almost never use the controller. If you don’t play a lot, then I suppose it doesn’t matter too much. If you play often, then you’re definitely spending a considerable amount of extra money on batteries. The real issue with your logic is that the PS3 and XBox 360 controllers cost the SAME amount of money. So why would the inclusion of a rechargeable battery that will last you for 4-5 years of heavy use be a bad thing? Apparently spending extra money is a good thing now? Seriously, stop trying to pretend external batteries are a good thing. It’s just pathetic.

          • Matthew Bryant

            Exactly. I’m glad they included that. I’ve heard a lot about this TV thing, and I’ve never been able to watch it before because working the remote was just too difficult. Thank God for the Kinect 2.0. Now I just have to learn how to talk.

      • Wtf101

        But what did that second controller cost you?

        • Hammersteyn

          R699 which is fine seeing how me and my mates would play rugby or cricket while braaing. a Bit too expensive but worth it

          • Wtf101

            Yeah, that makes sense…

        • Matthew Bryant

          You can always charge the controller overnight. The controller lasts a good 36 hours before it needs to be recharged anyway.

  • Alien Emperor Trevor

    If the controller needs two AAs how many do they need to power the infinite cloud?

    • Hammersteyn

      2 x AA batteries = one controller
      2 x infinite AA batteries = the infinite cloud.
      My math might be a bit off but I don’t think by much.

      • Blazzok

        Best math you’ll see today, no doubt.

    • Matthew Bryant

      I think “the cloud” has quickly replaced every other term as the most misused word in the industry. The internet is not “the cloud”. There is no “the cloud”. There are many networks that offer cloud services, and they have to meet criteria other than simply being online. I’ve grown to hate the word, because nobody has any idea what it means. ><

  • Tbone187

    I reckon those rumble triggers aint gonna help with battery life either….

    • Matthew Bryant

      Not like it overly matters. You’ll go through a lot more money in batteries on the XBox One before the PS4 controller runs out of juice, just like the PS3 vs the Xbox 360. PS3 controllers last a good 3-4 years. I have no idea how Microsoft can possibly justify charging the same amount for a controller that doesn’t include an integrated rechargeable battery. Their controllers should be a good $20 less.

  • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

    2xEnergizer rechargeable batteries get me around 3 months on my Xbox 360. PS4 lithium needs a monthly charge and the thought of having to plug in a cable mid-game when the thing needs charging is off-putting.

    PS: XBoX 360 Play and charge is crap. Got one of those for free.

    • Matthew Bryant

      Buy a second controller. Charge one while you play with the other. Or just leave the console on over night and charge your controller. It’s REALLY easy to tell when your controller needs to be recharged. It’s really not a difficult concept. Lithium-ion is WAY more cost effective than standard rechargeable batteries. Your argument is nonsense.

      • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

        You lost me at “buy a second controller”. Like you said then, “Your argument is nonsense.”

        • Matthew Bryant

          If you don’t have friends or a wife who games (like I do), I guess the argument is nonsense. For those of us who have friends or a gamer wife, buying a second controller is pretty much a no brainer. Sucks to be you I guess?

          I suppose charging your controller overnight is too complicated for you as well. Seriously, you’ll end up paying twice that amount in rechargeable batteries for the XBox One before the PS4 controller dies. If you like paying extra, then go for it.

          • FoxOneZA – X-Therminator

            Iff and only iff I don’t have friends. Sucks to be friends with you.

          • Matthew Bryant

            Awww, your juvenile attack on my character was cute. You completely ignored my argument. Good job. I’m guessing that was you conceding the point.

            Also, learn how to spell if.

          • Pieter Kruger

            If you and the wife wanna play split screen etc. and one remote is dead do you simply go out and buy a third? ????

          • Matthew Bryant

            Unless we’re playing for 36 hours straight, your argument is pretty much ridiculous. Did you actually READ my post? Or did you just skim through it to find something that you could possibly argue about? Internal rechargeable battery is better than an external replaceable battery every time. This isn’t a difficult concept. It’s cheaper, better for the environment, and recharging electronics isn’t exactly a new concept. Did you get upset every time you need to recharge your laptop or cell phone? You’re just being petty and juvenile at this point. I can count the number of times a controller has ran out of juice without a spare on my hands over the last 7 years.

            Seriously, it’s a non-issue. Microsoft is being cheap by not including a decent rechargeable, internal battery. Would it be nice if the battery in the DS3 was replaceable? Sure. In all likelihood you’ll have to replace the controller before that happens anyway since it’ll take a good 5 years, but it would still be nice. Is it more ridiculous that Microsoft charges the same price as Sony for a controller with less features? Yes. I just don’t understand how anyone could be stupid enough to argue otherwise.

  • Jakster

    Quite the environmentalist are we this morning? If there’s any issues with batteries and the environment then the problem is with battery manufacturers. Oh, most modern day batteries are more environmentally friendly than lithium batteries when disposed off.

    • Matthew Bryant

      Lithium-Ion batteries can be recharged thousands of times before they die. So unless “modern day batteries” (of which the lithium-ion is still by far the longest lasting of the bunch) can be recharged as many times as lithium-ion batteries (they can’t) then your point is just sheer stupidity. Seriously, use your brain.

  • HvR

    I like the idea of replaceable battery but I can not understand why they do not use a replaceable lithium-ion battery pack (like a cellphone).

  • Wtf101

    I have always been a fanboy of the Xbox console, until it struck me what money grabbing wolves Microsoft are:
    I play my console games on a PC monitor, with sound going to my PC speakers. My monitor has no speakers, so I have to use both the HDMI cable as well as the standard AV cables the Xbox 360 shipped with. Much to my horror, I realized that MS designed the AV cable in such a way that it “closes off” the HDMI port on the Xbox. Hence forcing you to buy an adaptor to use both the HDMI cable and the standard AV cables.
    Luckily I worked around that with a R5,00 hacksaw blade.
    Sony’s PS3. No such problems. Plug in the AV cable, plug in the HDMI cable and boom. You are gaming like it is no tomorrow.
    My PS3 also shipped with this little cable thingy that I plug into my console and into the controller. Charge as you play??? Imagine that.
    Xbox. “Gods the batteries are dead. Time to recharge!!!! Sorry, you did not put the batteries into the charger. Did you know you can buy this play and charge kit for your console???”

  • Unavengedavo

    What we need is for scientist to refine the Graphene supercapacitor batteries and make them charge with Induction chargers. Then when your battery runs out, you just place it on the charging pad for a few seconds and then its game on :P

  • buddynugget

    I want some info on how long both last because this gen rechargeable batterycpacks didn’t last very long and were honestly a waste of money. With how mid i use my consoles its actually cheaper just to wait for a deal on batteries like buy one get one 24 packs.

  • Mark Treloar

    Also Xbox power brick

    • Pieter Kruger

      I know, excellent news right?!

  • Mathias

    Oh, boy. This has turned too ridiculous for me to bear it.

    Now we’re judging the damn thing over batteries… I wasn’t ready for this, so I’ll just make some random retarded fanboy comment so everyone can be happy.

    Uhm…

    M$ = AA batteries. Sony = rechargeable built in battery. Gen won!

    Oh, wait, isn’t that the same that this gen? So I guess Sony won this gen too! Woohoo Sony, we love you!

    • Troll Slayer

      People are actually defending DS3. Hilarious, I know!

      • Matthew Bryant

        Controller preference is an opinion. I have smaller hands, so I actually greatly prefer the DS3 over the 360 controller (which seems big and bulky to me). Personally, I think both developers should offer a controller both a smaller and a larger controller option for different people. It would make a lot of sense.

        Other than the the size of the controller the only differences are the staggered analog stick which is for legal reasons and have no actual bearing on gameplay, less of a dead zone on the DS3 analog sticks for more precise aiming (but barely), pressure sensitive shoulder buttons on the PS3 so they don’t act like trigger buttons (which people say is a bad thing for some reason, probably because they don’t understand that pressure sensitive is better for games like racing games where the harder you press the more it affects the game), a better d-pad on the DS3 (nobody seriously argues that this is wrong), and a built in rechargeable battery that lasts for years in the DS3. I’d definitely argue that as far as features, the DS3 is a better controller. You may like the size of the 360 controller better, but a lot of people don’t. It’s just preference. Means little.

        • Mathias

          One thing is the shape of the fucking thing, but this is not about that… And I disagree with the ds3 analogs being better. I always had more trouble aiming with those.

          Meh, whatever. Hope both consoles release quickly so these losers will shut up and play.

  • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

    Wait so Microsoft is including rechargeable batteries and a charge kit to charge them up, correct?

    • Marc O Polo

      incorrect… they are supply 2 alkaline batteries….

      • Nintendo Fan 4 Lif3

        Oh ok..just making sure.

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  • Eric M.

    How much of a profit loss would they really sustain from including a set of rechargeable batteries and a charge cable? Granted, it will only delay the fact that in time you will have to buy new batteries, but for now, it would be a great perk. I would of rather had trouble free controller use over the
    headset that is included..

  • Mitchell Jenkins

    Most modern electronics ship with rechargeable batteries. I wonder why they chose not to include it. Obviously they are hoping to make a profit by charging for the recharge kit separately.

  • zackfair345

    wait do you get the headsets than the batteries?

  • Jim Lenoir (Banana Jim)
  • ALKi1234

    Is it even rechargeable batteries? I mean this is M$ we are talking about. But still glad to c Xbots getting “some” love from M$.

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